The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 18

[KRIM]

the specificity isnt entirely uncalled for though, its rooted in popular superman mythos and iconography which could have been a blast to see on film. instead, what little we've seen of snyder's design decisions for this film have been less than impressive and barely represent anything we've seen in regards to superman's source material. im all for creators having a personal vision on the character, but it should be in respect to the source material they're translating. and im not really getting that from snyder.

It would be helpful to have more reference images on hand. I vaguely recognize what Krypton looked like and there's a lot there that can still be translated to today with no issues. But those outfits? I'm not seeing much latitude to adapt those designs in a modern setting. Perhaps that is my lack of imagination for this particular look, and I could concede on that. However I'd be interested to hear what others feel would be an appropriate redesign (if that) for a modern film, while retaining the core elements from the original.

 

[StarvingArtist]

JOR-EL:

 

[Motown Marvel]

my problem with it is, even completely removed from superman mythos, just based on the design aspects itself; it doesnt work. its just poorly designed.

then on top of that, it seems so out of place for superman when there were not only better design possibilities, but also ones rooted in the source material.

superman is straight up sci-fi. im not seeing that in these designs. i do hope that at least comes through in the story.

 

[KRIM]

my problem with it is, even completely removed from superman mythos, just based on the design aspects itself; it doesnt work. its just poorly designed.

Can't say I'm in much disagreement. On top of the shoddy design the colors are also way too muted for my tastes.

then on top of that, it seems so out of place for superman when there were not only better design possibilities, but also ones rooted in the source material.

superman is straight up sci-fi. im not seeing that in these designs. i do hope that at least comes through in the story.

True enough, but I really do have to see how it fits with Krypton for a more accurate assessment. These don't look immediately sci-fi either:

But it worked just fine in context. At the very least I can appreciate how he's trying to unify all the traditional elements into a single culture. Regal wardrobe tends to have a timeless quality to it in spite of having defined classical origins, so I can see where Snyder was trying to give more solid purpose to the Superman outfit.

 

[StarvingArtist]

He looks like a homeless guy.

 

[Willi Berg]

I don't mind if there's a mixture of old and new styles. But...there's gotta be a mixture and the right balance.

 

[Dark Knight]

did a quick mod to try and make it more regal, i hope it helps but to me he doesnt need to be regal since hes a scholar

Nice manip!

I like the Jor El suit. It it looks majestic, futuristic and sweet! Can't wait to see how ALL the suits and costumes look after post work. Snyder will make all the costumes and suits look amazing visually during post me thinks!

I wonder if the are going to dye Crowes hair and beard black?

 

[Kurosawa]

the specificity isnt entirely uncalled for though, its rooted in popular superman mythos and iconography which could have been a blast to see on film. instead, what little we've seen of snyder's design decisions for this film have been less than impressive and barely represent anything we've seen in regards to superman's source material. im all for creators having a personal vision on the character, but it should be in respect to the source material they're translating. and im not really getting that from snyder.

What they are doing is so stock...modern fantasy movie stuff. Black, black, black and moar black, dingy blue, muted red (at least it's not brown/burgandy), and next to no yellow. Not a bright color in sight.

What they needed to take inspiration from was Speed Racer. But Snyder has too limited an imagination for that.

 

[camp Blood]

I look at that jor-el and see him walking through a crowded grand hall with light pouring in and him receiving a award for scientific achievement ( similar to the noble prize ) kinda like the end of star wars

and that's when the planet begins to crumble

 

[Dark Knight]

What they are doing is so stock...modern fantasy movie stuff. Black, black, black and moar black, dingy blue, muted red (at least it's not brown/burgandy), and next to no yellow. Not a bright color in sight.

What they needed to take inspiration from was Speed Racer. But Snyder has too limited an imagination for that.

Speed Racer? That film gave me a headache. I couldn't watch the whole thing all the way through with my nephews. I had to take breaks, to avoid migraines.

We really don't know how the final suits will look after post work and proper lighting is completed.

 

[camp Blood]

thanks DK and i agree a simple tuning of the saturation could fix any dull colors

 

[Lencho01]

Man, Speed Racer was ahead of its time.

 

[Boom]

Kurosawa, I get that you don't like the visual direction this film is going, but you don't have to insult the man. Just because his vision doesn't match up with yours doesn't mean he "lacks imagination." If anything, it lacks imagination to just copy something that's already been done.

And for what it's worth, I'm not too keen on the visual style of this film either.

 

[Lencho01]

I think we need to see some actual footage to see how far he, Nolan, and WB are willing to go with this.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Not really impressed with the Jor-El costume. Well you can't get everything, the Superman suit itself has grown into love from me. Maybe this will grow too.

I don't hate it, but it looks weird. What with a Superman suit under which looks very alien and then armor that looks medieval fantasy.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Kurosawa's anger of the change to his holy "true Superman mythos" is entertaining.

Comparing it to LOTR doesn't work for me. There is more than one version of the Superman mythos, while there is only one version of LOTR.

Mythos like these comic-book worlds has and will always be adapted differently and changed. It would be boring otherwise imo.

 

[The Morningstar]

People need to get over these changes from the source material. These films are adaptations, not 100% accurate translations.

If you don't like the look because you just don't like it, fair enough. But please, enough of this "well it's not the same as the comics wa wa waaa!" crap.

These films are not made to cater just to us fans. Realise that, and accept it.

 

[Dark Knight]

People need to get over these changes from the source material. These films are adaptations, not 100% accurate translations.

If you don't like the look because you just don't like it, fair enough. But please, enough of this "well it's not the same as the comics wa wa waaa!" crap.

These films are not made to cater just to us fans. Realise that, and accept it.

Fanboys refuse to realize this. It's sad. The final product will look different after post work is complete. It's funny how some fanboys love to jump to conclusions when a film is more than a year and half away from being released.

 

[Rust]

Imagine the outfit without the american football shoulderpads and it would work better. They make it look way too clunky and heavy.
It reminds me of Chronicles of Riddick.

I reckon there's more than one outfit. This could be his teaching garments.

 

[Lone]

S:TM's Jor-El looks nothing like any comic book incarnation of the character prior to it and gets way less hate than this.

This design appears to have been inspired by the numerous artist renditions of the character over the years and I think it will look great in the film.

I'm more amused that Superman is wearing what seems to be Kryptonian undergarments/long johns. In a weird way, he's still wearing underwear on the outside I guess.

 

[moviedoors]

its not the idea they're reacting to. it's reacting to your incessant narrow minded point of view that you annoyingly spew ad nauseum relentlessly on these boards whenever anything deviates in the slightest manner from what was depicted in action comics #1.

This, a million times this.

 

[moviedoors]

That is beside the point I was trying to get across.

But let's ignore that for now since you clearly don't care for the explanation. You advocated this:

That is nothing close to approaching a (modern) sci-fi utopian approach to Krypton. That is as retro as it gets.

Yup, Crowe's costume looks a million times better than that. That is so dated.

Ugh, I must hate and despise Siegel and Shuster and I want their legacy raped into oblivion. Because clearly, you either hold every single last detail dearly, or you hate it to death. Right Kurosawa?

 

[ChickenScratch]

I'm no fan of the new Superman suit but JorEl's suit is awsome. Robes can be in sci fi just fine. Look at the Vulcans, Jedi, Ori, Replicators ,etc. It can work just fine.

 

[Herolee10]

I wonder if there'll ever be a day when a costume of anyone's in a Superman film will be universally received well.lol

 

[maenalus]

Yup, Crowe's costume looks a million times better than that. That is so dated.

Ugh, I must hate and despise Siegel and Shuster and I want their legacy raped into oblivion. Because clearly, you either hold every single last detail dearly, or you hate it to death. Right Kurosawa?

Good argument. Classic Jor-El's clothe are "dated". Russell Crowe's Jor-El on the other hand is the pinnacle of modern fashion and good taste.