The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Project862006]

Michael Wilkinson spoke at the 5D | FLUX conference earlier this week, and dropped a few tidbits regarding Superman's iconic "S" costume design and how it will tie in to Krypton's history..

Wilkinson explained that since they created a “neo-medieval” back story for Krypton (which included the creation of a new language), it made sense to utilize the suit design as part of the mythology. “Everyone on Krypton wears this suit,” he suggested. Using ZBrush and rapid prototyping, Wilkinson came up the blue/gray color and chain-linked look. “It has function and purpose and a logic to this fantastical world,” he added.

 

[Mako]

Def. interesting, especially the bit about the language. If everyone on Krypton wears one I wonder what Faora and Lara will look like in one

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Hmmmm......... Most interesting............ Those lightsabers are sounding more and more plausible.

 

[Prime]

“neo-medieval”

“Everyone on Krypton wears this suit,”

eeeeh...im not feeling it...lossing the hope...maybe for the best, if it turns out to be good, cool, but I don't like what im reading lately. Neo-medieval Krypton? Oh please...that's sounds almost as bad as that stupid ice planet....And everyone wearing that suit? That takes away every little ounce of ˙˙special˙˙ from it, imo. Funny, I'd have thought an advanced civilization would have had more clothing choices. Now, I just have to wonder, is this Goyer's mess (the more I hear the more it sounds totally like him) or is Snyder's juvenile mentality kicked into overdrive??

 

[Project862006]

^i think it is just you because this all sounds bad ass to me

 

[Scarlet Spider]

“neo-medieval”

“Everyone on Krypton wears this suit,”

eeeeh...im not feeling it...lossing the hope...maybe for the best, if it turns out to be good, cool, but I don't like what im reading lately. Neo-medieval Krypton? Oh please...that's sounds almost as bad as that stupid ice planet....And everyone wearing that suit? That takes away every little ounce of ˙˙special˙˙ from it, imo. Funny, I'd have thought an advanced civilization would have had more clothing choices. Now, I just have to wonder, is this Goyer's mess (the more I hear the more it sounds totally like him) or is Snyder's juvenile mentality kicked into overdrive??

Is Wilkinson's comments about Krypton really surprising...?

Jor-El's outfit screamed neo-medieval.

Many made that connection, when we first saw those pics. Snyder doesn't do hard sci-fi. He excels at fantasy. That's his forte as a filmmaker.

 

[Project862006]

^i agree the signals pointed to this months and months ago

fantasy is my fav. genre anyways so i am happy

 

[Prime]

Is Wilkinson's comments about Krytpon really surprising...?

Jor-El's outfit screamed neo-medieval.

Many made that connection, when we first saw those pics. Snyder doesn't do hard sci-fi. He excels at fantasy. That's his forte as a filmmaker.

I know. I guess I was living in denial, still hoping to see a true sci-fi, proper version of Krypton, a true alien advanced civilization, Neo-medieval doesn't really sound inspired to me. Ah well. At least Russell Crowe's in it. That's a bonus. He'll pull off medieval better.

 

[Lily Adler]

So now we know who to blame.

Anyway, I like the sound of neo-midieval Krypton. It sounds interesting.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

When they say Neo-Medieval, sounds like they're still going for advanced technology even though their suits will look slightly medieval. Even the fact they fight with light swords(or lancers, not sure) makes sense with what he said.

 

[Prime]

I really really hate the idea of everyone on Krypton wearing that same suit design, but just in different colors. I know this was suspected when we saw snippets of Zod and the suit underneath Jor-El's armor, but I was hoping maybe only the ˙˙higher˙˙ society would wear them, or high ranking officials or something. Not everyone Wilkinson said.

And the more I think about it the more stupid a medieval Krypton sounds. Krypton is not fantasy genre!!!!

 

[Lily Adler]

So now the question is does everyone wear the shield or have their own?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

It's not literally going to be medieval... I'm sure they will be using very advanced technology.

 

[Prime]

When they say Neo-Medieval, sounds like they're still going for advanced technology even though their suits will look slightly medieval. Even the fact they fight with light swords(or lancers, not sure) makes sense with what he said.

Hooray for medieval Star Wars inspired Krypton! t:

 

[Project862006]

I really really hate the idea of everyone on Krypton wearing that same suit design, but just in different colors. I know this was suspected when we saw snippets of Zod and the suit underneath Jor-El's armor, but I was hoping maybe only the ˙˙higher˙˙ society would wear them, or high ranking officials or something. Not everyone Wilkinson said.

And the more I think about it the more stupid a medieval Krypton sounds. Krypton is not fantasy genre!!!!

another word/planet = fantasy

 

[El Payaso]

He can compress the entire costume, but he wears the suit under Clark's clothes and the boots are probably in the pouch of the cape compressed, but I've seen them drawn under Clark's shoes as well.

It's just one of those things you have to go with.

It's just one of those things that are not necessary at all. Not only it's absurd to pretend that you can't notice boots under shoes or a cape under the shirt - not to mention the 3d symbol or the fact that Clark couldn't take his jacket off or even open his shirt a little, bringing more attention to himself - but Superman doesn't need to have his suit there since he is fast enough.

Yeah, something like that shouldnt necessarily be explained and I cant imagine MOS trying to either despite the "realistic" approach.

I cannot imagine MOS not doing it. But "realistic" is not the concept I was thinking of. It could be Kryptonian technology. That's not realistic but at least it's something.

 

[Prime]

So now the question is does everyone wear the shield or have their own?

Zod's shield looked different from that small peak we got. I suspect they will ride along with the shield being the family crest or something similar. Seriously, if everyone wore that big proud S...no, not gonna happen. They aren't that stupid, I hope.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Hooray for medieval Star Wars inspired Krypton! t:

Star Wars inspires so many movies these days that it isn't a bad thing at all. I don't think the swords/lances will be multicolored like lightsabers are.
Didn't they use something similar in a Superman comic book? Can't remember the name.

 

[Lily Adler]

The only time I can remember was Zorro-El (I think).

 

[Prime]

another word/planet = fantasy

No.

Fantasy is a genre of fiction that commonly uses magic and other supernatural phenomena as a primary element of plot, theme, or setting. Many works within the genre take place in imaginary worlds where magic is common. Fantasy is generally distinguished from the genres of science fiction and horror by the expectation that it steers clear of scientific and macabre themes, respectively.

In popular culture, the genre of fantasy is dominated by its medievalist form, especially since the worldwide success of The Lord of the Rings and related books by J. R. R. Tolkien. Fantasy has also included fairy tales, wizards, sorcerers, or witchcraft, (etc.), in events which avoid horror.

When I think ˙˙fantasy genre`` I think medieval, wizards, swords, magic, etc... When I think Krypton, I think (from reading the comics) advanced alien civilization, with advanced technology, not magic. And certainly not swords, or knights or wizards.

 

[Project862006]

they will obviously have something over the outfit like how crowe did he said everyone wears the suit not everyone looks the same with same costume

 

[craigdbfan]

Michael Wilkinson spoke at the 5D | FLUX conference earlier this week, and dropped a few tidbits regarding Superman's iconic "S" costume design and how it will tie in to Krypton's history..

I really like the sound of all of that.

 

[Project862006]

No.

Fantasy is a genre of fiction that commonly uses magic and other supernatural phenomena as a primary element of plot, theme, or setting. Many works within the genre take place in imaginary worlds where magic is common. Fantasy is generally distinguished from the genres of science fiction and horror by the expectation that it steers clear of scientific and macabre themes, respectively.

In popular culture, the genre of fantasy is dominated by its medievalist form, especially since the worldwide success of The Lord of the Rings and related books by J. R. R. Tolkien. Fantasy has also included fairy tales, wizards, sorcerers, or witchcraft, (etc.), in events which avoid horror.

When I think ˙˙fantasy genre`` I think medieval, wizards, swords, magic, etc... When I think Krypton, I think (from reading the comics) advanced alien civilization, with advanced technology, not magic. And certainly not swords, or knights or wizards.

they are both similiar so it is niether here or there

Some would say that there is very little difference between the two forms. Orson Scott Card, an award-winning novelist in both genres, has said that the difference is illusory. "Half joking, I was writing to Ben [Bova] about this very subject, and I said, look, fantasy has trees, and science fiction has rivets," Card said in a 1989 interview. "That's it, that's all the difference there is, the difference of feel, perception." Science fiction and fantasy both explore other realities than our own. And in the sense that either way what really matters in human nature, the difference is one of setting and environment.
But there is a fundamental difference -- one of aspiration. Humanity can look forward to the kinds of achievements postulated in science fiction, while with another part of our brain we can dream of the impossibilities conjured by fantasy. Science fiction expands our world; fantasy transcends it.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think it'll be similar to these pictures where they have a slightly medieval way of dressing but use sophisticated technology.

 

[Prime]

they are both similiar so it is niether here or there

I see nothing similar between, let's say, the people walking thing (LOTR) and Star Wars. Fantasy was always medieval, forrest, wizards and knights and all that. Even in my local library under fantasy, that is filled, under science fiction it's not. It's always like that everywhere. But maybe I've been living a lie! t: But mind you, I am speaking of the esthetics, the outside look and feel, the setting, not the deeper meaning behind the genres! Just to clear any confusion! But ok, to each his own! I do wonder how this plays out. I just hope Krypton looks nothing like a medieval earth with high tech, because that would look stupid, imo.