The Official Flash Thread - Part 2

[Lily Adler]

There are two Zooms, one for Barry and one for Wally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse-Flash

I want him to fight Captain Cold. The "cheesiness" can be removed simply by giving his costume an update. Cold is easily Flash's most interesting villain I think. Mirror Master and Weather Wizard could be interesting for a sequel. But Eobard and Grodd would be great too.

Thanks! I feel so stupid now. Oh well live and learn. t:

I've heard many suggestions for Captain Cold, I like him. Good choice! But I can't help but think Shumacher has ruined ice-based villains for comic book films.

 

[DrCosmic]

I kind of think as Captain Cold as Flash's Archnemesis. I'd want to see him the sequel, after we get past the origin stuff and take care of that well (instead of rushing it to get to the real story), I think Cold works very well as an Anti-Villain. His costume can be updated relatively easily, especially if the story takes place in the winter time. Some body armor and a parka, basically. The hard part would be creating his gun, and the weapons of the others in the film, so that they are believable. Usually that type of macguffin take the plot of a whole film, and each one of them has one. Perhaps they have a common theme, like, these are devices from the future brought by Eobard Thawne?

I'm still with Dr. Alchemy and Captain Boomerang for a first film.

Grodd can come... in the cartoons.

 

[The Morningstar]

I think Gorilla Grodd should be the villain. Then again Flash's rogue gallery isn't that great. I love Captain Boomerang, but I would save him for a Suicide Squad appearance in a JLA movie.

Flash has one of the best rogues galleries in comics.

 

[DrCosmic]

^He sure as heck does. They are as fleshed out as Batman's gallery and a bit wider ranging in skills and abilities. And then, on top of that, they have fleshed out relationships. It's a really cool group of guys.

 

[Panthro]

In the last run (get it?) of Johns' Flash series, Barry Allen was listed as 5'9 according to his ID

I thought it was 5'10", which is weird since I could have sworn his official height according to one of those "official" DC sites or handbooks was 6'0".

 

[The Batman]

I kind of think as Captain Cold as Flash's Archnemesis. I'd want to see him the sequel, after we get past the origin stuff and take care of that well (instead of rushing it to get to the real story), I think Cold works very well as an Anti-Villain. His costume can be updated relatively easily, especially if the story takes place in the winter time. Some body armor and a parka, basically. The hard part would be creating his gun, and the weapons of the others in the film, so that they are believable. Usually that type of macguffin take the plot of a whole film, and each one of them has one. Perhaps they have a common theme, like, these are devices from the future brought by Eobard Thawne?

I'm still with Dr. Alchemy and Captain Boomerang for a first film.

Grodd can come... in the cartoons.

Technically, IMO, Zoom is Flash's archnemesis...but Cold is definetely his most iconic.

Its like Spider-Man. I have no doubt that outside comic circles, Doc Ock and Venom are the most known/popular Spidey villains. But Green Goblin is definetely the archnemesis there.

 

[Lord Valumart]

If we're aiming for the trilogy then in the first one have Element/Alchemy and Capt Boomerang in the first, Cold in the second and Zoom in the third. That way little hints could be given to Zoom during the first two films that don't actually have to go anywhere unless there is a third film. And that also allows the third to tie into the previous films as if it's been one big massive idea from the start.

Grodd should be left alone, it's far too much to even start with that in a film.

 

[DrCosmic]

Technically, IMO, Zoom is Flash's archnemesis...but Cold is definetely his most iconic.

Its like Spider-Man. I have no doubt that outside comic circles, Doc Ock and Venom are the most known/popular Spidey villains. But Green Goblin is definetely the archnemesis there.

It is like Spider-Man. Zoom is the more popular dark mirror (Venom), and Captain Cold is the ideological opposite who challenges the hero's mind and heart more than his powers (Green Goblin/Lex Luthor/Joker). Even if you disagree, there's no way Cold is more popular or known than Zoom.

 

[DrCosmic]

If we're aiming for the trilogy then in the first one have Element/Alchemy and Capt Boomerang in the first, Cold in the second and Zoom in the third. That way little hints could be given to Zoom during the first two films that don't actually have to go anywhere unless there is a third film. And that also allows the third to tie into the previous films as if it's been one big massive idea from the start.

Grodd should be left alone, it's far too much to even start with that in a film.

I'm so right here. I'd probably throw in 3-4 of the rogues as sort of supporting goons in the second, with Cold being the real brains, the real villain, and such. I could even see someone throwing in Grodd, if you include Zoom's time travel background, nothing wrong with Monkeys from the future with brain transplants. If you make him freaky enough, the silliness just makes him more scary. Is it worth the effort? Not to me, but if people keep clamoring for him, you can bring him in as a second act villain for Zoom's film.

 

[Ultimatehero]

My vote goes out to Ryan Gosling:

He just seems like the kind of guy that could really bring a superhero to life. He has the boy next door quality. He has the kick ass action guy quality. You could imagine him being out of it. Not to mention the whole crime scene investigation element of it, he'd be believable. Plus he does look a lot like Barry Allen:

Just watch this scene imagining he is Flash and Hopkins is the villain

With a serious, darker more 'Batman Begins' rather than 'Green Lantern' take on it - we'd be in for an awesome film.

 

[Crockett]

Gosling would be good yes, it's just that I think comic book movies isn't something he's really interested in.

With a good script then yeah it's possible but until then, it's a no.

 

[JAK®]

Gosling would be perfect, but he was offered the part of Green Lantern and declined simply because it was a comic book movie. And with GL being a flop I don't think WB can change his mind now.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Gosling would be perfect, but he was offered the part of Green Lantern and declined simply because it was a comic book movie. And with GL being a flop I don't think WB can change his mind now.

It had more to do with it being a big action movie. He said he didn't like doing greenscreen because he didn't consider himself a good enough actor to perform with things that aren't really there.

 

[DrCosmic]

That's a very nice way of saying he doesn't want to do popcorn flicks.

 

[OPAZO]

I want either Ryan Gosling, Bradley Cooper or Chris Pine to play The Flash (Barry Allen)!

But I'm hoping for Ryan Gosling!

 

[Airwings]

Hey, don't forget Devon Sawa and Joseph Mazzello

 

[Ultimatehero]

2011:
“I really wanted to make a super-hero film but all the good ones were taken so I thought I would have to make my own at this point," Gosling told FOX411. "But when I read this script I thought there was a way to do that with this stunt driver stuck in the mythology of movies, and that he had become so far removed and watched so many movies, that he started to see his life as one."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/09/16/exclusive-nobody-would-hire-ryan-gosling-to-play-super-hero/

- Unsure if this was just "talk" - but kinda sounds like a guy who's looking for a quality superhero film to be in. May have turned down 'Green Lantern' due to the script (we all know how that one turned out). Sounds like he's just waiting for the right script a la X2, Spider-Man 2, Nolan's Batman, X-Men First Class, etc.

 

[OPAZO]

Hey, don't forget Devon Sawa and Joseph Mazzello

Didn't forget them, because they suck as actors.

Gosling for The Flash, I have spoken!

 

[Jalexander]

Gosling for The Flash would be great, if he is interested.

 

[Lencho01]

http://collider.com/shawn-levy-the-flash/116843

Director Shawn Levy on What Happened to His FLASH Movie

by Steve 'Frosty' Weintraub Posted:September 25th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

Back in 2007, director Shawn Levy was attached to direct The Flash for Warner Bros. At the time, comic book movies were beginning their rise to prominence, and The Flash was a high profile project for the studio (it still is). At the time, Levy was coming off Night at the Museum, which had made over $500 million at the worldwide box office, so it wasn’t a surprise when he landed the gig. Since then, I’ve wondered what happened and why his version of The Flash never got made. So when I got to speak with Levy at this weekend’s press junket for Real Steel, one of the many things we talked about was what happened to The Flash. He told me:

“I oversaw a draft for about three-and-a-half months. And, at that time, I learned two things. One, if you’re going to take on a character like that… I was still the family comedy guy. And I just felt like, I gotta get a few more under my belt before I can claim the legitimacy of making a movie like that. And that’s what I’m doing, to be very honest. I’m not saying I have a master plan to go back to The Flash. In the end, The Flash went away because Justice League was gonna happen. And then it didn’t happen. To my great dismay, because I would have been first in line for that, too.”
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Hit the jump for more.

While Levy is definitely not a fanboy favorite, I’ve seen Real Steel. It’s a big step forward for Levy and I’m extremely confident that after people get to see it, Levy is going to be looked at in a whole new light. He might even be the one you want to tackle an upcoming comic book movie.

And who knows…Warner Bros. has been struggling to get The Flash made for many years, perhaps Levy could end up back on that project. But if the box office for Real Steel is big, I’m sure Levy is going to be offered a lot of high profile choices.

Here’s what Levy said about what happened on The Flash and what he wants for his career. I’m always a fan of people that talk honestly and without pretense, and I give Levy a lot of credit for both.
And if you missed what Levy told me about Fantastic Voyage, Frankenstein, and his updates on The Hardy Men and Night at the Museum 3, just hit the links. Look for more with Levy soon.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/the_flash_comic_book_image__4_.jpg
Collider: There were rumors you were attached to The Flash.

Shawn Levy: I was attached to The Flash. You know…I’m going to give you the candid answer. After Night at the Museum, I got offered The Flash. I was like, “Well, first of all, what?! Why?” I know Night at the Museum was a big commercial movie and had a lot of visual effects, but… Look, I love The Flash. Mostly because it was this nickname I had in my youth. And I liked it because I liked the comics. But I was a sprinter. And I was really into running fast. It’s ****ing geeky. Attached to The Flash, I oversaw a draft for about three-and-a-half months. And, at that time, I learned two things. One, if you’re going to take on a character like that… I was still the family comedy guy. And I just felt like, I gotta get a few more under my belt before I can claim the legitimacy of making a movie like that. And that’s what I’m doing, to be very honest. I’m not saying I have a master plan to go back to The Flash. In the end, The Flash went away because Justice League was gonna happen. And then it didn’t happen. To my great dismay, because I would have been first in line for that, too. Is it still….I don’t even know.

Collider: You know, I’ve said this on the site, I’ve said that after Real Steel comes out and fanboys see this, that you’re going to be seen in a whole new light with a lot of people. And you getting attached to a comic book movie is something fans/geeks are going to get excited about.


Levy: I’m aware of the kind of movies I’ve made, and I’m grateful for their success. But there will be a before and after Real Steel. I know it. This movie is so different from the prior ones. I finally got to show some **** that I hadn’t been given the opportunity. And the bottom line is when Jim Cameron saw twenty minutes of Real Steel, he offered me Fantastic Voyage. When the Frankenstein people atFox saw some of Real Steel, we started talking Frankenstein.


Collider: If Warner Bros came at you and said we still want to do The Flash is this something…because here’s the thing: you can only do one movie every other year.

The truth is, we never got the Flash script right. I still love that character. I’ve had no talks. But I’m waiting and seeing. In two weeks we’ll see what the fallout from Real Steel is. I do know that there may very well be a comic book hero in my future. I would like that very much. I also know that I never wanted a purely comedy career. The careers I admire most are eclectic. They’re genre diverse. Whether it’s Peter Weir, or Ron Howard, or Zemeckis. It’s always humanist, it tends to be commercial. But it’s not just the same thing. And that’s what I’m trying to build here. And that’s why I’m talking things like Fantastic Voyage, why I’m talking things like Frankenstein. Always character-based, like Real Steel is. You’ve seen this. Real Steel, you go in thinking it’s about robots wailing on each other. You come out, you know it’s something different or something more. Same with Fantastic Voyage and very much the same with Frankenstein.

 

[OPAZO]

Check this out!

I just made this Flash movie poster.
I edited The Flash artwork from a deviantart user named Isikol, check out his work!

http://o-opazo-o.deviantart.com/art/The-Flash-Movie-Poster-260319265

 

[DrCosmic]

http://collider.com/shawn-levy-the-flash/116843

Excellent article! Thank you for posting this. Very insightful, and I'm looking forward to Real Steel, already, now moreso, because, while cheesy and relatively unbearable, the Night at the Museum movies were actually pretty good.

It'd be interesting to see him team up with Gosling, though I think he'd need a bit more weight on him before working with that caliber of actor.

Still, he'd be a great option for something relatively 'light' like the Flash, that still has heart and weight behind it. That's what I noticed most about Night at the Museum, past all the slapstick, there was still a bit of heart there you don't usually see in a modern family movie. Real friendships, not so cut and dry romance. A man and his son. Good stuff. It was the first time I could stand Ben Stiller, I can say that much.

 

[Airwings]

OPAZO: Try and make a poster with Mazzello in the suit. Even if you don't like him.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Michael Rosenbaum is voicing Flash in the new Justice League: Doom animated movie.

 

[TheDragonator]

I think if they ever make a Flash film, they should use this design: