The Official Flash Thread - Part 2

[batman44]

No thanks. I don't think Flash needs black in his unifrom and I think Flash's costume is practically perfect.

 

[ChickenScratch]

The Flash has THE perfect superhero costume. To me it even tops Spider-Man's. So no, we won't be adding black to make it all aggro or brutal or necro or more serious or anything of the sort.

 

[TheDragonator]

You assume the general audience cares.

If Superman can lose his trunks and still look good, Flash can have black on him. Looks fine to me.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I didnt mention the general audience now did I? I think you assume too much.

As for the costume, it's perfect as it is. Like Spider-man's, and has worked well on screen before in the TV series.

 

[BatBat]

I think if they ever make a Flash film, they should use this design:

That? is just plain ugly for Flash

 

[HighFivingMF]

I want an assorted pack of licorice.

 

[TheDragonator]

I didnt mention audience now did I? I think you assume too much.

As for the , it's perfect as it is. Like Spider-'s, and has worked well on screen before in the TV series.

And look how that turned out.

Not to mention, the 80's design wouldn't work for a movie. The only live-action version of the suit made since then was made for the dead Justice League Mortal, and none of the costumes from that film have ever been seen.

 

[HighFivingMF]

And look how that turned out.

The show got cancelled because of the suit? It got cancelled because it was put up against The Simpsons and The Cosby Show, along with constantly being interrupted by coverage of the Gulf War. That and the high price tag per episode.

 

[Panthro]

I don't think mixing black and red works for the Flash.

 

[Bren]

I'm only a casual fan of the Flash...... And I'd be deeply disappointed if they used something like that.

 

[DrCosmic]

The Flash costume from the comics is one of the best, and easiest to translate to screen, in all existance. It's simple, bold and practical. To complicate it and darken it does nothing beneficial unless you're doing the thankfully dead in the water Silence of the Lambs version of Flash.

All the Flash costume needs for a transfer to live action is a nice rich texture and a storyline reason for the ostentatiousness of the costume, it could be a one-liner like Iron Man had for the red in his costume.

 

[TheDragonator]

The show got cancelled because of the suit?

Did I say that? No. I'm saying it's a poor example. The General Audience won't give a damn about a series that lasted one season.

Being simple doesn't mean it won't be changed. Green Lantern had a simple costume too.

There are very few CBMs in this century have had costumes exactly like the comics. In fact, the only three I can think of is Spider-Man, and even his costume had some small changes (raised webbing, etc). Especially in the past few years, when the industry really started getting good.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Did I say that? No.

Well it's what it sounded like.

 

[DrCosmic]

Did I say that? No. I'm saying it's a poor example. The General Audience won't give a damn about a series that lasted one season.

Being simple doesn't mean it won't be changed. Green Lantern had a simple costume too.

There are very few CBMs in this century have had costumes exactly like the comics. In fact, the only three I can think of is Spider-Man, and even his costume had some small changes (raised webbing, etc). Especially in the past few years, when the industry really started getting good.

On Green Lantern, as you said: Look how that turned out.

There's nothing wrong with adding details, like in Spider-Man's costume, or when the costume doesn't make sense for the story, like Batman Begins, changing significant parts, but if the costume makes perfect sense, why mess up a good thing?

Hellboy, Iron Man. The films that stick to the comics costume do well critically and commercially, and the films that do well despite breaking from the comics costume have specific storyline reasons for changing the costumes, not just "well, a lot of other movies are changing the comics costumes, so why don't we? Y'know, for the heck of it."

The costume means something, it tells a story all by itself. Unless you're telling a different kind of story, or you want your movie to suck, don't change it.

Even on those other mediocre films, who added a whole new color scheme to their costumes? Not Captain America, not Thor, not Hulk, not Batman Begins. Superman Returns did. And X-Men did. And guess what? When X-Men pulled themselves out of the funk of X3, they went back to the comics colors because the costumes tell a good story.

 

[ChickenScratch]

That's what I got from what he said too. Black on The Flash does not work. He's a hero who's bright, cheery, most of his power is manifested in red or yellow light. So no, black won't work.

And it turned out how it did because of a crap time slot. That show still rules.

 

[Airwings]

One can't have a The Flash film without the suit. It would be a random speedster superhero movie then. And people won't be interested.

I wrote this yesterday, but somebody took my post away.

 

[DrCosmic]

*cackles over lost post collection*

Another thing, is that things that are red look like they're going faster. Having an all red costume makes the character look faster, as they whiz by, which is just plain cooler.

 

[TheDragonator]

they went back to the comics colors because the costumes tell a good story.

What 'Story' did the X-Men costumes tell? The ones that appeared just before the final battle at the end of the film? Please, tell me you're kidding. How the hell could a costume 'tell a story', especially when most of the story happens before it shows up?

The WRITING tells the story, not costumes.

Not Captain America

Actually, as you can tell from any picture of him in the film, you would have realized that Captain America's costume was VERY MUCH changed. And they explained the path to it through the plot.

One can't have a The Flash film without the suit. It would be a random speedster superhero movie then. And people won't be interested.

Yeah! Because there are so many speedster superhero movies!

Oh wait. No they weren't. That makes no sense. Considering there are no speedster superhero films, how would it be 'another random' one?

Point of the matter is, I like the suit, and I personally think it could work.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Anybody read the new Flash #1?

 

[Airwings]

Yeah! Because there are so many speedster superhero movies!

Oh wait. No they weren't. That makes no sense. Considering there are no speedster superhero films, how would it be 'another random' one?

Point of the matter is, I like the suit, and I personally think it could work.

How interesting will The Flash be without his suit, what will Superman be without his suit, can a Batman film work without his suit?

 

[TheDragonator]

How interesting will The be without his , what will Superman be without his suit, can a Batman film without his suit?

I don't understand what you're saying. It sounds like you think I don't want Flash to wear a costume....which is absolutely nowhere near close to what I actually said.

 

[DrCosmic]

What 'Story' did the X-Men costumes tell? The ones that appeared just before the final battle at the end of the film? Please, tell me you're kidding. How the hell could a costume 'tell a story', especially when most of the story happens before it shows up?

The WRITING tells the story, not costumes.

Visual tell a story. That's why we read comics instead of novels. What colors and form you choose says something about the character, it tells the story. For X-Men, it was about a black ops group that happened to have super powers, and sure enough, the writing backed up the story the costumes told.

Actually, as you can tell from any picture of him in the film, you would have realized that Captain America's costume was VERY MUCH changed. And they explained the path to it through the plot.

But not the colors, which is kind of the issue with the black and red flash.

 

[TheDragonator]

But not the colors

Really? I wasn't aware that Cap had large patches of gray and had brown gloves and boots in his comics costume.

 

[Bren]

People arguing opinion again..... I think Flash fans would prefer the traditional suit. And I think the GA would also think the traditional suit would be more aesthetically pleasing.

Just my opinion. If you have a different one, good on ya.

 

[antonydelfini]

Dont fix what aint broken. Dont replace stuff with inferior stuff.

The costume with black is inferior to the original.

I have no problems with changing costumes as long as it looks as good or even better than the original.

You've got a great costume in the comic book Flash costume, no need to change the color scheme IMO.