Comics The OFFICIAL: ICEMAN Discussion Thread

[ProfeZZor X]

Ooooh that sounds interesting. I did here that he once froze a ship....but never that he unfroze it. So he generates cold to the point that if someone topuches him, they'll be frozen?

Make a trip to your local comic book shop and ask for the six part series X-MEN FOREVER. In there, you will find all that you are looking for on Iceman, and some of his greatest abilities to date.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Here is what the first cover looks like:

 

[ProfeZZor X]

 

[javon]

Oh okay. I'll do that.

 

[RAMORE]

I'm just glad he's included in that story arc... And he appears to be right along side Cyclops on the issue. I'm also curious why they chose him and not Beast to side with Cyclops, since Bobby has always had a problem with Cyclops' authority, ever since he told him not to follow Alex and Lorna when they left the mansion ("What Lorna Saw" story).

Which was stupid to begin with, because it seemed like Cyclops was blocking Bobby so his brother could get to her... Again, one of the other reasons why I thought he should have been Apocalypse's horseman and not Gambit. That, and the fact that Lorna left him, Emma screwed up his powers, and no one else on the team seems to give him respect. He had nothing to loose.

I thought the same thing. I was ok with gambit cause no one was doing anything cool with him either. But i thought that they finally could help define him and reach his full potential.

 

[RAMORE]

1) He realized he could convert his body into organic ice.
2) He realized he could melt into an ice slick (on the ground), and reshape his body.
3) He realized he could add a tremendous amount of moisture to his body to gain mass and super strength.
4) He realized he could add sharp spikes to his body for offensive manuevers.
5) He realized he could freeze large areas (the size of Tokyo).
6) He realized he could unfreeze what he has frozen.
7) He realized he could see the thermal signatures of any living being (like infrared vision).
8) He realized he could detect moisture in his nearby area.
9) He realized he could extract moisture from any living being (killing them in the process if he took out every drop).
10) He realized he could travel in different ways without the use of his ice slide.

Emma never taught him any of these abilities. So you can see why I get pissed off when people say Emma taught him everything he knows. In most of these cases, these things happened BEFORE Emma got a hold of Iceman's body. And even after she occupied it, he's done a lot more than she ever did in that short amount of time she possessed him.

There are still lot of things he hasn't discovered about himself yet. And that's the problem. Iceman is content with the way he is. He never really pushes himself more than he has to. But this time, Carey says he's going to change all that, and make him discover some of that potential.

that's so sweet i didn't realize this. I've been saying for years he has the most untapped potential looks like they might finally be getting to some of it.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

that's so sweet i didn't realize this. I've been saying for years he has the most untapped potential looks like they might finally be getting to some of it.

I think Carey has some of that potential coming out in X-Men #190, when Iceman gets his lower half shattered. Maybe that'll be his defining momment that he realizes what a waste of potential he's had.... I can't wait!!!

And it truly seems like Carey is Genuinely concerned about each character's representation he writes about in this book.... I wouldn't call him a savior, but until I see the end result of his run, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[HandOfFate]

I think Carey has some of that potential coming out in X-Men #190, when Iceman gets his lower half shattered. Maybe that'll be his defining momment that he realizes what a waste of potential he's had.... I can't wait!!!

And it truly seems like Carey is Genuinely concerned about each character's representation he writes about in this book.... I wouldn't call him a savior, but until I see the end result of his run, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I hope your right.

 

[Exploding Boy]

In Rogue's series he gets smashed in half and recovers

 

[javon]

I think Carey has some of that potential coming out in X-Men #190, when Iceman gets his lower half shattered. Maybe that'll be his defining momment that he realizes what a waste of potential he's had.... I can't wait!!!

And it truly seems like Carey is Genuinely concerned about each character's representation he writes about in this book.... I wouldn't call him a savior, but until I see the end result of his run, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Me too. I can't wait neither!

 

[Exploding Boy]

Freezing the Blood Flow to Emma's brain:

steals mouisture from another person

Transmutes Ice

Freezing and unfreezing ice statues so fast they look like they are moving normally

Xavier talking (in his computer journal) about how Iceman and Jean are Omega Mutants who have unlimited potential

 

[Exploding Boy]

Traveling back in time to fight Legion, Iceman freezes him from the inside out.

Iceman(with a little flight help from Storm) encases a giant mountain in Ice. Jean mentions how sometimes she finds herself wondering if he could freeze the whole world. The cold goes down to virtually absolute zero as well.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Exploding Boy.... Dude, YOU ROCK!!!.... Seriously!!! Thanks for posting those pictures. I got your back on anything you're up against in this forum.

 

[Exploding Boy]

haha, I knew you would appreciate them

 

[ProfeZZor X]

This is how I wish Iceman would travel instead of constantly using his ice slide.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Freezes the insides of Mammomax.

Hulking out

Ices the Empire State Building with Christmans decorations within a few seconds.

Blasts Juggs

The results of Emmas tampering

 

[Exploding Boy]

Various acts:

Snow Storm and shattering an object by freezing it:

Freezing an entire space ship:

Being part of everything in mist form

Creative use of his powers:

 

[Exploding Boy]

Freezing heat beams and then an entire body

Freezing A building and Fever Pitch

Encases the Hulk in Ice:

 

[ProfeZZor X]

WOW, you're on a roll!!..... There is one other comic that actually got me started back in comics again (in the 1990s), and heavily into Iceman. It was Uncanny #302/ Colossus Unleashed. I pulled these from a foriegn site that lists some comics page for page (http://nitro1.fw.hu/lista.html)

This is also my favorite Iceman picture of all time. I haven't found anything else to top this pose, and representation of him. By the way, this happened YEARS before that whole Emma Frost situation.

 

[javon]

By the goddess!!!! Explodingboy you rock! Iceman rock! Thanks 4 the scans sooooooo much! (You too Profezzor x)

 

[HandOfFate]

See gotta love Bobby.

 

[javon]

I know. I am so jealous now,lol. This makes me want him to explore his power more.

 

[The Comedian]

This may be a stupid question, but I've just recently got back into comics. In adjectiveless X-Men, I've noticed that Iceman is drawn with many ice Spikes or shards protruding from his body, yet in Civil War X-Men, he's shown with the smooth body. Is this just artistic differences or was there a reason why Iceman had those jagged spikes?

 

[HandOfFate]

This may be a stupid question, but I've just recently got back into comics. In adjectiveless X-Men, I've noticed that Iceman is drawn with many ice Spikes or shards protruding from his body, yet in Civil War X-Men, he's shown with the smooth body. Is this just artistic differences or was there a reason why Iceman had those jagged spikes?

It's more artistic differences but I always assumed that when he spiked up he was about to beat somebody a$$.

 

[javon]

lol. Profezzor said he learned to add sharp spikes to his body so it could be that.