Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Im kinda hoping Spacey and Bosworth are M.I.A. for the next movie.
(heavy sigh)

I think that there is a 10% chance of that happening.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

This shows that WB is afraid to make a Superman film without Luthor.I think that`s real sad,this confirms my feelings of not seeing a Superman Returns sequel.

 

[GreenKToo]

Which part the alterant earth/Mxyzptlk part or the Superman movies should be fun, enteraining with a message but not a challenge to watch part?! And yes that was a rhetorical question!

The only way I could see them making the events in S.R. be non existent, yet still be believable, would be for Superman to have been stopped unaware on his way back to earth from krypton by *insert supervillain here*, he gets hooked up to alien computers (ala matrix) and the events in S.R. play out in his mind, not reality.
When he finally escapes and returns to earth, there is no richard, and no jason.

Its crazy I know, but its the only way I could see it.

 

[Rob-el]

The only way I could see them making the events in S.R. be non existent, yet still be believable, would be for Superman to have been stopped unaware on his way back to earth from krypton by *insert supervillain here*, he gets hooked up to alien computers (ala matrix) and the events in S.R. play out in his mind, not reality.
Its crazy I know, but its the only way I could see it.

...or Lois wakes up and goes into the shower to find Bobbie! I agree with you. They simply dug themselves into one hell of ahole and if they can get out of it I'm thinking Oscars for best original screen plays (and I'm not a SR knocker per se - i saw it 6-7 time sin the theater, likes it more as I saw ) Having bracketed that and to paraphrase the Joker form Batman ...This movie continuinty needs an enema!"

 

[GreenKToo]

Personally, I had no problem with richard or jason, but I can uderstand why some people did.

 

[Showtime]

Personally, I had no problem with richard or jason, but I can uderstand why some people did.

That is a Showtime answer. t:

 

[GreenKToo]

lol. The only problems I had with S.R., was Lex. It never crossed my mind once to dislike Richard or Jason. I was really hoping for a different Lex though.

 

[Showtime]

I had a problem with what the character was given to work with but not with how Space potrayed the character.

 

[GreenKToo]

I had a problem with what the character was given to work with but not with how Space potrayed the character.

yeah, thats what I didnt care for.

 

[ZeroCorpse]

I didn't have a problem with Richard, Lois, or any of the other characters-- I simply DID NOT CARE about them one way or the other. This movie was annoying and dull.

Spacey was hammy as Lex. I expected cold and calculating, like in the comics or animated series, and what I got was a rehash of Gene Hackman's campy Luthor.

They botched this from the get-go. I won't be seeing the sequel if this is the way they're going to continue.

 

[Lestat74]

Yeah, it's really "brilliant" to insert a character nobody asked for and make him better in every way than the guy who's supposed to be the main man and get the girl in the end ... ---> GENIUS!

Well, back in '82, the fans literally sent death threats to Paramount when rumors surfaced that they were going to kill off Spock in Star Trek II. Certainly nobody "asked" to have Spock killed off. But 25 years laters, Trek II is still the fan's favorite of the whole series by far, and critically regarded as the best of the bunch as well. Sometimes, the last thing you want is for the hardcore fanbase to have the final word....or any word.

 

[Showtime]

Spacey was hammy as Lex. I expected cold and calculating, like in the comics or animated series, and what I got was a rehash of Gene Hackman's campy Luthor.

Compared to Hackman's Lex, Spacey was a maniac.

 

[ZeroCorpse]

Compared to Hackman's Lex, Spacey was a maniac.

Lex Luthor isn't supposed to be a maniac. He's supposed to be a genius, a businessman, a master of manipulating things to get what he wants, and a scientist.

The movie Lex is always basically a psychopath with a fetish for real estate.

 

[Showtime]

Lex is supposed to be whatever the actor, writer, and filmmaker want him to be.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Lex is supposed to be whatever the actor, writer, and filmmaker want him to be.

So if Lex is written as a killer klown from outer space you would be ok with that?

 

[Sebastos]

Lex is supposed to be whatever the actor, writer, and filmmaker want him to be.

Exactly. Both Hackman and Spacey portrayed Lex in their own way.

 

[Matt]

Personally, I had no problem with richard or jason, but I can uderstand why some people did.

I actually found them to be the best aspect of the movie. Jason provided the few light moments the movie had and Richard was everything Superman should be. I liked them a lot...but I'm not sure that is a compliment towards the movie considering it just highlights how unlikable Supes and Lois were.

 

[Showtime]

So if Lex is written as a killer klown from outer space you would be ok with that?

Wasn't that in the Abrams version?

I didn't really like what Lex was given to do in regards to his plan, but I thought he was written much more brutally than Lex was in previous film incarnations. Yeah I get it, in the comics he is a politcial figure or he is a business tycoon, but I liked the way Space potrayed the character.

 

[mego joe]

i feel you....im not saying what he did was right....but im just looking at it as telling my girlfriend that ive been activated into active duty....yea i should tell her...but can i handle it, if she tries to stop me...or if she tells me its over?....most people would tell....but it aint easy either.

It may not be easy, but if you are honest upright and really care about her you're going to tell her.

SUperman failed the basic test of the defining essence of the content of his character.

 

[mego joe]

And he also spends a good portion of the movie saving people as well, so what is your point?



IMO he didnt want to say goodbye because he didnt want to see the pain on Lois' face when he told her, some people call that selfish, i dont, i think its a genuine feeling as if i had it my way, NON of my loved ones would EVER feel pain again.

But he causes her more pain by not saying goodbye. It's really simple. Not saying goodbye is about him avoiding pain, not avoiding her from experiencing pain. SHe's going to experience pain either way, but which situation is worth. If he tells her at least she knows he cares enough to say something. By not saying anything it's like saying he doesn't care about her.

 

[Excel]

I actually found them to be the best aspect of the movie. Jason provided the few light moments the movie had and Richard was everything Superman should be. I liked them a lot...but I'm not sure that is a compliment towards the movie considering it just highlights how unlikable Supes and Lois were.

a lot of the films jokes were cut out. thats one thing it think singer did well actually. if you lose

1. stalker/ depressed superman
2. dark ,.gloomy look of the 2nd half

the whole mood of the film is a lot brighter. factor in a large amount of jokes, i.e. "so you flew in last week" or "what do you have in there, bricks" were edited out; and i think he could make a very popcorn film if he felt like it.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

It may not be easy, but if you are honest upright and really care about her you're going to tell her.

SUperman failed the basic test of the defining essence of the content of his character.

It's quite mind boggling. What's at the core of this move, Superman not saying goodbye in the context of this movie, is something that Superman would never do. It annoys me the way that Singer and his writers compromised Superman's character just to create some Lifetime movie of the week drama.

Please, just give the ax to Singer and his two writers, they just aren't cut out for Superman.

 

[Lighthouse]

IMO he didnt want to say goodbye because he didnt want to see the pain on Lois' face when he told her, some people call that selfish, i dont, i think its a genuine feeling as if i had it my way, NON of my loved ones would EVER feel pain again.

How does she not feel even more pain of him not saying goodbye? It is incredibly selfish not to tell her. If I was leaving the country for 5 years, and didn't tell my girlfriend that I was heavily involved with, that would be insanely selfish of me.

 

[mego joe]

How does she not feel even more pain of him not saying goodbye? It is incredibly selfish not to tell her. If I was leaving the country for 5 years, and didn't tell my girlfriend that I was heavily involved with, that would be insanely selfish of me.

Exactly right.

It's mind boggling how many people can't understand this.

 

[mego joe]

i feel you....im not saying what he did was right....but im just looking at it as telling my girlfriend that ive been activated into active duty....yea i should tell her...but can i handle it, if she tries to stop me...or if she tells me its over?....most people would tell....but it aint easy either.

NOt really about the discussion, but a personal note to you.
Thank you for serving your country and protecting the values we belive in.