Sequels The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[TruerToTheCore]

You mean this one?




Let's be honest, dude - we both know that Pre-Crisis Lex Luthor was far from an interesting or unique character. You just, for some reason, want the comics industry to revert back "TO DAH GOOD OL' DAZE," and have an irrational hatred for anything that stems from DC post 1985.

I mean, let me ask you, why are always so condescending in your posts?

Let's be honest, dude. You just know the 60s/70s Luthor from some descriptions and how "stupid" Superman comics were before Byrne came. You don't know the comics. You don't know the old Lex Luthor, you just know "I had a BBBAAAD childhood" Luthor.

read http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=269072&page=6

 

[Superhobo]

Let's be honest, dude. You just know the 60s/70s Luthor from some descriptions and how "stupid" Superman comics were before Byrne came. You don't know the comics. You don't know the old Lex Luthor, you just know "I had a BBBAAAD childhood" Luthor.

read http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=269072&page=6

I know it quite well - my stack of CBR filled CD's speaks to that. I've read from his first appearance with a full head of red hair, to his Superman hatred - spawning origin in "Superboy," and on and on.

On the whole, he wasn't at all that menacing or threatening. Where the writers at DC made a vast improvement at the time (by moving backwards, ha ha) with the Joker, Luthor's post crisis incarnation was and is far more interesting. He's still ruthless, and still (far more, IMO) menacing. He's still a scientist, even. Now, however, instead of being a 'mad scientist/misunderstood brilliant man', there's actually far more to him.

And again, I ask. Why are you always so condescending in your posts?

I mean, it'd be okay if you had any valid points to make, but you don't.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I know it quite well - my stack of CBR filled CD's speaks to that. I've read from his first appearance with a full head of red hair, to his Superman hatred - spawning origin in "Superboy," and on and on.

On the whole, he wasn't at all that menacing or threatening. Where the writers at DC made a vast improvement at the time (by moving backwards, ha ha) with the Joker, Luthor's post crisis incarnation was and is far more interesting. He's still ruthless, and still (far more, IMO) menacing. He's still a scientist, even. Now, however, instead of being a 'mad scientist/misunderstood brilliant man', there's actually far more to him.

And again, I ask. Why are you always so condescending in your posts?

I mean, it'd be okay if you had any valid points to make, but you don't.

what about Maggin's Luthor stories, his novels "Last Son of Krypton", "Miracle Monday", what about the LExor trilogy. You seem to know just a few stories but not the whole character. He was truly made three-dimensional in the 60s. (The red-haired Luthor was always awful, the Ultra-Humanite was the better Lex) and 70s.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Luthor's post crisis incarnation was and is far more interesting. He's still ruthless

You DO know that Lexcorp was invented pre-crisis?!

 

[C. Lee]

It's funny....I was thinking about talking to Superhobo about his repeatedly calling TruerToTheCore "condescending".....then I read the last few of True's posts.....

 

[Superhobo]

You DO know that Lexcorp was invented pre-crisis?!

Uh, yeah.

 

[Superhobo]

what about Maggin's Luthor stories, his novels "Last Son of Krypton", "Miracle Monday", what about the LExor trilogy.

I've read "Last Son of Krypton" online, haven't got around to "Miracle Monday" yet. I've read one of the issues of the Lexor trilogy online.

You seem to know just a few stories but not the whole character.

I was giving you broad strokes, dude.

He was truly made three-dimensional in the 60s. (The red-haired Luthor was always awful, the Ultra-Humanite was the better Lex) and 70s.

Wait - three dimensionality in a comic? Blasphemy, you'd say.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Hackman and Spacey are really my two favorite versions of Lex. We can throw in Lexcorp in the sequel but I wouldn't want the personality or character to change.

 

[deathshead2]

Rather have evil business man Lex from Superman:tas. Loved that version as a kid, and always thought the movie Lexs were trying to hard to be funny. Which just always tossed me about of the experiance.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Rather have evil business man Lex from Superman:tas. Loved that version as a kid, and always thought the movie Lexs were trying to hard to be funny. Which just always tossed me about of the experiance.

So we need the real Lex Luthor, hero of Lexor!

IMO we do not need Lex Luthor at all in a Superman movie.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Hackman and Spacey are really my two favorite versions of Lex.

Eh?

 

[SatEL]

Hackman and Spacey are really my two favorite versions of Lex. We can throw in Lexcorp in the sequel but I wouldn't want the personality or character to change.

Micheal Rosenbum(I know) is the best live action Lex we have ever had bar none ****ing awesome. Then he is followed closely by John oshea from L&C.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Eh?

My statement wasn't ambiguous. I said I loved Hackman and Spacey both.

Micheal Rosenbum(I know) is the best live action Lex we have ever had bar none ****ing awesome. Then he is followed closely by John oshea from L&C.

Michael isn't bad, but I hardly recall Lex in L&C really. It's been so long

 

[SuperFerret]

My ideal Lex Luthor would be a corporate-styled Lex played by John Malkovic.

 

[smoothbody]

DENZEL WASHINGTON,with out a doubt!!!

 

[I Am The Knight]

DENZEL WASHINGTON,with out a doubt!!!

NO!

 

[GreenKToo]

This is the Lex I want.

 

[Showtime]

Merged about seven Lex Luthor threads together into this one and still merging...

 

[Ziggyman]

I think Itsjustsomerandomguy's take on Luthor is probably the best...No more Luthor...Give Supes a physical threat!

 

[Superman70]

I say leave Lex out all togather. So people think he's still stuck on the island.

How's this? Lex is not in MOF at all. But, then whatever is made after MOS Lex is there he's eaten Kitty to stay alive. He then hooks up with the vilian from MOS and creates Bizzaro. It needs work but, that's what just popped in my head.

 

[CLARKY]

If there is a sequel, I think Luthor should make something with all the money he's got.
I'm not a big fan of mad scientist Lex Luthor, and even less of the Hackman Luthor. That's why I was deveived by the way B.Singer built his Luthor, even as a tribute for Donner's film. Personnally, I think the best Luthor is the Head-of-Lexcorp-Luthor.

c'mon the guy blew it.
He ignored the comics completely, made Superman a stalker and dead beat dad, and squandered 200 million to make a "Superman lifts things" borefest. I'm confident there are directors who can do far better than Superman Returns.
Singer doesn't deserve another chance anymore than Brett Ratner.

I don't think he ignored the comics completely. There are a lot of connections that can be founded throughout the internet. But I admit it was more Donner inspired than comicbook inspired. But it suits me fine because Donner had a lot of things done right, IMO.
For one time, a director did a sensitive story, where the hero is in real danger. It is certainly not testosterone-batman begins that could show the same. I think most people were expecting "action" like most people comprehend the word : action = fight. Because I think there were some action in the movie, several times, but not one fight, not even a punch. That, I think was brilliant, to show that you can stop evil differently than with punches in the face. Now, that B.Singer establised his Superman, I can't wait to see what he's going to do with him, and how he can bring a fight sequence with a non-violent hero ; For me, it only means that the fight will be justified, and Superman WILL have good reasons to fight.
And when "lifting things" means "saving people", I think , it's a good characterization of Superman.
Superman returns was pretty good, and I loved it. even if I maintain that is not how I would have done it.

 

[SuperDaniel]

Donner`s Luthor suck.

 

[The Overlord]

Do you think Lex's character needs to revamped or is fine the way he is?

I would say yes, current movie Lex sucks, movie Obadiah Stane is a better villain then he is. That's pretty sad. Seriously enough with the stupid real estate schemes.

 

[Showtime]

Ask this in the Lex Luthor thread.

 

[The Overlord]

Hackman and Spacey are really my two favorite versions of Lex. We can throw in Lexcorp in the sequel but I wouldn't want the personality or character to change.

So you like really stupid real estate schemes that make no sense instead of actual cunning schemes?