The Official Lanterns News & Discussion Thread

[Primal Slayer]

Green Lantern ain’t Superman and is not remotely defined by a single character as the lead. That’s a terrible comparison. Hal was my own intro to the mythos. Yet I discovered better characters/leads for the title. That’s what happens with a franchise designed around a whole Corps of characters. You can have a fave without getting mad others are getting the spotlight (with your fave still as co-lead no less!) after years of getting your fave in the spotlight.

That doesn't matter. THere have been other people who have worn the big S. Clark is not the end all be all to Superman just as Bruce is not the end all be all to Batman as proven by Batman Beyond. Hal Jordan isnt some newbie character. He is the most iconic and famous Green Lantern there is. If his fans got 1 season of him, yeah they would have every right to be in their feelings.

Yep. Superman is Clark Kent. Batman is Bruce Wayne. Wonder Woman is Diana.

Green Lantern, like Flash, encompasses multiple, thankfully very different characters. Hal isn't even the original Lantern.

Jonthan Kent as Superman says differently. As does Terry as Batman or Dick as Batman or Tim as future Batman. Artemis as Wonder Woman, Nubia as Wonder Woman. The Trinity may not be weaker as "legacies" but they've all been replaced.

Even after 7 films, Superman fans would lose it. So yeah Hal Fans can be mad if they got 1 film decade ago and maybe 1 season. How they go about that rage....that's different.

No matter WHO the character is...their fans want said character respected and to see good stories with them.

 

[Charles Xavier]

I just read two green lantern stories, secret origins and sinestro corps war. Sinestro is who I want to see done well the most. I hope like in superman with luthor, he is accurate to the stories I like. If I like him then I like him. If I don't then I won't complain.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That doesn't matter. THere have been other people who have worn the big S. Clark is not the end all be all to Superman just as Bruce is not the end all be all to Batman as proven by Batman Beyond. Hal Jordan isnt some newbie character. He is the most iconic and famous Green Lantern there is. If his fans got 1 season of him, yeah they would have every right to be in their feelings.

It 100% matters.

Here are the intro for these characters on wiki:

Superman:

Superman was born Kal-El, on the fictional planet Krypton. As a baby, his parents Jor-El and Lara sent him to Earth in a small spaceship shortly before Krypton was destroyed in an apocalyptic cataclysm.

Batman:

In the DC Universe, Batman is the alias of Bruce Wayne, a wealthy American playboy, philanthropist, and industrialist who resides in the fictional Gotham City.

Green Lantern:

Green Lantern is the name of several superheroes appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics.

Also what does it mean to be the most "iconic and famous" Green Lantern? Does that even crack the top 10 most iconic and famous DC characters? The Bat family has half of dozen more iconic and famous characters.

Jonthan Kent as Superman says differently. As does Terry as Batman or Dick as Batman or Tim as future Batman. Artemis as Wonder Woman, Nubia as Wonder Woman. The Trinity may not be weaker as "legacies" but they've all been replaced.

Even after 7 films, Superman fans would lose it. So yeah Hal Fans can be mad if they got 1 film decade ago and maybe 1 season. How they go about that rage....that's different.

No matter WHO the character is...their fans want said character respected and to see good stories with them.

So I'm clear, I think Bruce should pass the mantle on. But he hasn't. Explain if it's the same thing, why they always revert back to Clark, Bruce, and Diana?

And that's why people would lose it. Because those characters and their alter egos are one in the same to the general public. Vastly different then Green Lantern.

You have no idea if Green Lantern will be respected here.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It 100% matters.

Here are the intro for these characters on wiki:

Superman:


Batman:

Green Lantern:


Also what does it mean to be the most "iconic and famous" Green Lantern? Does that even crack the top 10 most iconic and famous DC characters? The Bat family has half of dozen more iconic and famous characters.


So I'm clear, I think Bruce should pass the mantle on. But he hasn't. Explain if it's the same thing, why they always revert back to Clark, Bruce, and Diana?

And that's why people would lose it. Because those characters and their alter egos are one in the same to the general public. Vastly different then Green Lantern.

You have no idea if Green Lantern will be respected here.

Wiki didnt matter here now did it?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wiki didnt matter here now did it?
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Do you think this is some sort of smoking gun? It's animated series that the vast majority of the public don't know about. Doesn't change that Bruce is synonymous with Batman.

Serious questions. Do you not understand how the general public sees Batman in comparison to Green Lantern? Do you understand that Green Lantern isn't a super popular character to the general public? Do you not understand how the Green Lantern Corps work? How the history of Green Lantern in the comics have seen decade long runs for different Lanterns in a way that has never been the case for Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman?

I really think you need to take into account that a lot of people see John Stewart as Green Lantern because he's one of the few bones thrown to the black community by main stream DC. Because of that, Hal is arguably not even the most iconic or popular Green Lantern. He doesn't have a community behind him like that. And if he did, you definitely wouldn't want him around.

And even then, the answer is probably Guy Gardner. Who will have more people dressed like him this Halloween then any Green Lantern before.

 

[emielaen]

Is it really that shocking Hal fans wouldnt be happy their character is aged up and likely going to die in season 1?

You running to think he's gonna die because he's not 35 is a part of my point. It's leading with cynicism based on nothing. Him being older doesn't mean the project is inherently unworthy of its existence or the character won't be portrayed with care or respect. That's the type of stuff I'm seeing from people that tells me the discussions around the show aren't gonna be had in good faith.

They're not happy because they're assuming the worst. That's their own fault.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I for one would be thrilled at my favourite character played by Kyle ****ing Chandler getting to co-lead an HBO show.

 

[flickchick85]

That doesn't matter. THere have been other people who have worn the big S. Clark is not the end all be all to Superman just as Bruce is not the end all be all to Batman as proven by Batman Beyond.

Sorry, but they absolutely are. Everybody has different Green Lanterns they grew up with. That is simply not the case with Clark and Bruce. They are always the main ones even when someone else is subbing in temporarily. That comparison just doesn’t work in the slightest.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I for one would be thrilled at my favourite character played by Kyle ****ing Chandler getting to co-lead an HBO show.

With kickass creative to boot.

 

[Snow Queen]

The idea of guy who had a kids show a quarter century ago that's biggest impact seems to be getting laughed at for its Justice League epilogue being on the same tier as the half dozen Green Lanterns is very funny to me. Terry's firmly in DC glup ****to territory.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The idea of guy who had a kids show a quarter century ago that's biggest impact seems to be getting laughed at for its Justice League epilogue being on the same tier as the half dozen Green Lanterns is very funny to me. Terry's firmly in DC glup ****to territory.

I don't want to hate on people who like Beyond. I enjoyed it as a teen as well. But boy, do people treat it like it's 99.99999% of the mythos as opposed to one animated show.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

One of the writers/producers of BB doesn't even consider it hard canon, just a "possible future" for BTAS Batman.

 

[flickchick85]

I don't want to hate on people for like Beyond. I enjoyed it as a teen as well. But boy, do people treat it like it's 99.99999% of the mythos as opposed to one animated show.

A short-lived animated show to boot. It ran for 2 whole years, 3 seasons. I would have more of a case arguing Superman & Lois being a defining part of Superman's canon. And as a die hard fan of that show, I can assure you I ain't ever arguing that.

 

[Still Wynning]

I don't want to hate on people for like Beyond. I enjoyed it as a teen as well. But boy, do people treat it like it's 99.99999% of the mythos as opposed to one animated show.

Even as someone who really likes Batman Beyond, like all of the shows, I only consider it to be one part of a greater universe that I love overall. Some I favor a bit more than others, but I cherish them all in equal measure.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A short-lived animated show to boot. It ran for 2 whole years, 3 seasons. I would have more of a case arguing Superman & Lois being a defining part of Superman's canon. And as a die hard fan of that show, I can assure you I ain't ever arguing that.

Yep. A lot of things is Star Wars, DC, Marvel, Star Trek, Doctor Who and so many things I hold dear that the vast majority of fans don't give a crap about. And that's okay. Because I still get to love them. That doesn't really change their place in the heirarchy.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Do you think this is some sort of smoking gun? It's animated series that the vast majority of the public don't know about. Doesn't change that Bruce is synonymous with Batman.

Serious questions. Do you not understand how the general public sees Batman in comparison to Green Lantern? Do you understand that Green Lantern isn't a super popular character to the general public? Do you not understand how the Green Lantern Corps work? How the history of Green Lantern in the comics have seen decade long runs for different Lanterns in a way that has never been the case for Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman?

I really think you need to take into account that a lot of people see John Stewart as Green Lantern because he's one of the few bones thrown to the black community by main stream DC. Because of that, Hal is arguably not even the most iconic or popular Green Lantern. He doesn't have a community behind him like that. And if he did, you definitely wouldn't want him around.

And even then, the answer is probably Guy Gardner. Who will have more people dressed like him this Halloween then any Green Lantern before.

Bruce is synonymous with Batman but Batman Beyond proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that there can be a Batman that is not Bruce. We almost got a Black Superman and we dont know if he was gonna be named Clark Kent.

I understand that Green Lantern is not completely like Superman or Batman. That is not being questioned. It still a fact that there can be someone else in those mantles. It has happened. And if those adaptations happened on the small screen or big screen, fans would be annoyed. That is just a fact. And it is a fact that it doesn't matter if there is a Green Lantern Corps, if they are being adapted, fans want their faves to be respected and not potential one-offs. Hal isnt a random GL.

I don't want to hate on people who like Beyond. I enjoyed it as a teen as well. But boy, do people treat it like it's 99.99999% of the mythos as opposed to one animated show.

Even one animated show that runs for 3 seasons is still a big deal that it happened.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bruce is synonymous with Batman but Batman Beyond proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that there can be a Batman that is not Bruce. We almost got a Black Superman and we dont know if he was gonna be named Clark Kent.

I find it extremely weird that you go with Batman Beyond and not something like Dick and Damian as the Dynamic Duo. You seem to focus on adaptations as opposed to the comics. Which really makes your argument worse. Because any adaptation is going to default. Because Clark, Bruce, and Diana are the character 99% of the time and always come back. Even in animated television form, Bruce is Batman 99% of the time.

I understand that Green Lantern is not completely like Superman or Batman. That is not being questioned. It still a fact that there can be someone else in those mantles. It has happened. And if those adaptations happened on the small screen or big screen, fans would be annoyed. That is just a fact. And it is a fact that it doesn't matter if there is a Green Lantern Corps, if they are being adapted, fans want their faves to be respected and not potential one-offs. Hal isnt a random GL.

Because they are different. That's the point. Hal Jordan is not Green Lantern. He's A Green Lantern. Just like Kyle, just like John, just like Jess, just like Guy, just like Sinestro, just like Kilwog, so on and so forth. So that means they can use any of them or none of them, and still have an awesome Green Lantern show.

]Your version of "respect" just ignores context. What needs to be respected first and foremost is the story. If you were going to tell a legacy story for Batman, where Bruce dies or passes on the mantle, it's not "disrespectful" to ditch him or treat him as a supporting character. Your version of respect seems to just be built around prominence of a character. Not how well they're written, not their place in the story, not any of it. Just wanting to see their face most.

Wanting your favorites to have a big role is perfectly fine. But once you start throwing around the world "respect", especially for the character who has been thrown at the general public for well over a decade, it just feels like a disconnect from reality. It's just demanding your favorite be prominent because you want it.

Even one animated show that runs for 3 seasons is still a big deal that it happened.

Based on what? Terry matters so little, this happened.

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[Stringer]

This evaluation of Batman Beyond is valid but is still hurting me. I can't stands no more

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This evaluation of Batman Beyond is valid but is still hurting me. I can't stands no more

 

[dhandler01]

That doesn't matter. THere have been other people who have worn the big S. Clark is not the end all be all to Superman just as Bruce is not the end all be all to Batman as proven by Batman Beyond. Hal Jordan isnt some newbie character. He is the most iconic and famous Green Lantern there is. If his fans got 1 season of him, yeah they would have every right to be in their feelings.



Jonthan Kent as Superman says differently. As does Terry as Batman or Dick as Batman or Tim as future Batman. Artemis as Wonder Woman, Nubia as Wonder Woman. The Trinity may not be weaker as "legacies" but they've all been replaced.

Even after 7 films, Superman fans would lose it. So yeah Hal Fans can be mad if they got 1 film decade ago and maybe 1 season. How they go about that rage....that's different.

No matter WHO the character is...their fans want said character respected and to see good stories with them.

Batman Beyond takes place in the future...a future where Bruce is too old to be Batman.

These are bad analogies...

Ask a thousand people around tbe world who Batman and Superman are. You will hear Bruce and Clark. Ask them who Green Lantern is and 3/4 wont know and the rest will be divided. Its just not the same.

 

[dhandler01]

I don't want to hate on people who like Beyond. I enjoyed it as a teen as well. But boy, do people treat it like it's 99.99999% of the mythos as opposed to one animated show.

I love BB...but it is a niche part of the mythos AT BEST.

 

[Sawyer]

I see some of the DC accounts running with the notion that Lanterns isn’t going to release until after Supergirl, but it’s based on the word of a Twitter page that I had reason to block at some point in the past, so… idk.

 

[flickchick85]

I see some of the DC accounts running with the notion that Lanterns isn’t going to release until after Supergirl, but it’s based on the word of a Twitter page that I had reason to block at some point in the past, so… idk.

THR apparently confirmed it's expected after SG.

 

[Sawyer]

THR apparently confirmed it's expected after SG.

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I guess I could see Supergirl in early(ish) summer, Lanterns late summer and Clayface in the fall. But I believe nothing until it comes straight from the source.

 

[donuts]

THR apparently confirmed it's expected after SG.

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And the comments again on that post...

My God, now people suddenly "lost interest in the show" and the DCU is a ****show just because Lanterns might be released a few months later than expected.