The Official Lex Luthor Casting Thread

[FlawlessVictory]

Actually Lois is a material witness, and he did do something which did damage to Metropolis. Superman was brought in to the hospital with a stab wound and they pulled out the Kryptonite out of the wound, which is irrefutable evidence. Everyone saw Superman lifting that big land mass that Lex Luthor created, which caused the damage. His boat, with a russion missle launcher bolted to it, is at the bottom of the sea (and mini sub can go down there and photogrpaph it. Lois sent the co-ordinates of where the ship is so they know where to look. And again, Lois, Richard, and her son are material witnesses. Lex spelled out exactly what he was going to do, even had a map of it, so Luthor would be arrested first time he shows up in public. There is too much evidence and witness to put him in jail and to get a conviction. He would go to federal prison. The reason Lex is able to be a corporate magnate in the comics is that he already was rich and hired goons to do his work that could not be traced back to him. But in SR, Lex had direct connection to the events he caused, with witness. So it would be very stupid to make him president of the US, or of a company.

Yea, I'd say those are pretty tough obstacles to overcome for Lex. Singer, Dougherty and Harris may have written themselves into a corner with this one.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Lets not forget Lex has a piece of information thousands of times more damaging than Superman's secret identity...

Lex knows Jason is Superman's son and could put Jason in a dangerous position if that knowledge was exposed to the public. Lex could manipulate silence from Superman, Lois and Richard because of that fact.

I still think both Richard and Lois knew Superman was the father all along and were trying to protect Jason. When confronted by Lex about Jason's paternity, Kate played Lois as though she was lying/trying to cover up the truth when she said 'Richard', it was pretty transparent.

Lex will likely never be the President of the United States (which wasnt the best concept in the comics anyway) but forming Lexcorp through some kind of partnership with the Govt would be the best.

It almost feels like 24 when the Govt needed Assad's help to defend the country against a nuclear threat.

 

[LordJK]

Lex should be on the run in this movie, but he should be working behind the scenes, trying to find some way to clear his name and then create LexCorp from there.

We can't just go straight from Rich guy who plans to kill billions to a respected businessman. The character needs to be developed.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

I'd rather they focus more on the scientist aspect of Lex in Lexcorp and less of the businessman aspect.

I dont think Lex should go after money and political power anymore. He should be on a quest for absolute knowledge and immortality.

Perhaps this is what should draw him to Brainiac in the sequel, similar to the Amazo story in JLU.

 

[LordJK]

Really what they should have done is had Lex as an established businessman in SR. He had 5 years without Superman to contend with, he should have accomplished more than swindling an old lady out of her money.

That way we could've had the businessman moving onto supervillain aspect from JLU.

 

[matthooper]

Luthor has been in every Superman except III. Enough is enough with him, especially since Singer retreads everything about him anyway including his schemes.

If there is any hope of a good sequel, they need to get as far away from this Singer/Donner continuity as possible while keeping the spirit of those films. No Luthor. In this Donnersingerverse, he tried to destroy the world at least 3 times, 4 if you count S4. Do you think we'd let him run for president, or own a major corporation? Luthor has been done to death. Infact, it would have been nice if he died in SR. As far as on the run, with all of Supes powers, he can't find Luthor? That's even dumber than president Luthor.

It's too late now to do anything good with him. If Singer had established something interesting in SR, maybe we could continue with him. He's dead weight now.

 

[Showtime]

Luthor has been in every Superman except III. Enough is enough with him, especially since Singer retreads everything about him anyway including his schemes.

If there is any hope of a good sequel, they need to get as far away from this Singer/Donner continuity as possible while keeping the spirit of those films. No Luthor. In this Donnersingerverse, he tried to destroy the world at least 3 times, 4 if you count S4. Do you think we'd let him run for president, or own a major corporation? Luthor has been done to death. Infact, it would have been nice if he died in SR. As far as on the run, with all of Supes powers, he can't find Luthor? That's even dumber than president Luthor.

It's too late now to do anything good with him. If Singer had established something interesting in SR, maybe we could continue with him. He's dead weight now.

I don't know about killing him off, that was the biggest mistake made in the 1st Batman run, when they killed the Joker. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the background ala Superman 2.

 

[Jimmy, GL]

Luthor has been in every Superman except III. Enough is enough with him, especially since Singer retreads everything about him anyway including his schemes.

If there is any hope of a good sequel, they need to get as far away from this Singer/Donner continuity as possible while keeping the spirit of those films. No Luthor. In this Donnersingerverse, he tried to destroy the world at least 3 times, 4 if you count S4. Do you think we'd let him run for president, or own a major corporation? Luthor has been done to death. Infact, it would have been nice if he died in SR. As far as on the run, with all of Supes powers, he can't find Luthor? That's even dumber than president Luthor.

It's too late now to do anything good with him. If Singer had established something interesting in SR, maybe we could continue with him. He's dead weight now.

Exactly what I've been trying to say. Thank you.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

I don't know about killing him off, that was the biggest mistake made in the 1st Batman run, when they killed the Joker. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the background ala Superman 2.

A better example is X2:

Magneto = Lex

Stryker = Brainiac

 

[Jimmy, GL]

Lets not forget Lex has a piece of information thousands of times more damaging than Superman's secret identity...

Lex knows Jason is Superman's son and could put Jason in a dangerous position if that knowledge was exposed to the public. Lex could manipulate silence from Superman, Lois and Richard because of that fact.

I still think both Richard and Lois knew Superman was the father all along and were trying to protect Jason. When confronted by Lex about Jason's paternity, Kate played Lois as though she was lying/trying to cover up the truth when she said 'Richard', it was pretty transparent.

Lex will likely never be the President of the United States (which wasnt the best concept in the comics anyway) but forming Lexcorp through some kind of partnership with the Govt would be the best.

It almost feels like 24 when the Govt needed Assad's help to defend the country against a nuclear threat.

In the immortal words of Kevin Spacey... WRONG! Lex has suspisions of Jason being Superman's kid. He never saw the kid throw the piano. The only evidence he has is that kryptonite issue. Even that can be testified as completely circumstantial. He has no physical proof. He would say... "Hey look this kid is Superman's son!" and people would look at him like he's crazy. There is almost no resemblance between the kid and Kal-El anyway. He has Lois's body build.

Lois knew Jason was Superman's kid... Right. That's why she was giving him cold medicine and pills all the time. That's why he always had the sniffles and asthma. I doubt seriously she knew until she was on the boat. Another thing that bugs me is if when Lois had the Kryptonite from Superman's back why didn't Jason go all krypto-impaired? Plot holes are fun.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

when details about SR started to come out, it bugged me that almost 20 years after a superman film we STILL haven't seen a LexCorp. to me that is always the best and definitive version.

they still could've told their "story" by having lex as a business man instead of marrying money *gag*

imo, the best part of the superman story and his relation to lex, is that Lex was THE super man in metropolis. always in the newspapers, talked about, discussed etc...of course this only lasts until the real Superman shows up, then he's dropped like a hat and becomes yesterday's news. to me this always seemed like the perfect interpretation of Lex's hatred of superman.

sure he always claims he can help make the world a better place, cure cancer, or whatever and he always can't b/c Supes was in his way; outisde the fact he's never made an attempt when Superman is never around. but in reality it's simple jealousy that drives him and i think the audience could really identify with it

unforunately we're stuck with donner-Lex 1.5

 

[Showtime]

In the immortal words of Kevin Spacey... WRONG! Lex has suspisions of Jason being Superman's kid. He never saw the kid throw the piano. The only evidence he has is that kryptonite issue. Even that can be testified as completely circumstantial. He has no physical proof. He would say... "Hey look this kid is Superman's son!" and people would look at him like he's crazy. There is almost no resemblance between the kid and Kal-El anyway. He has Lois's body build.

Lois knew Jason was Superman's kid... Right. That's why she was giving him cold medicine and pills all the time. That's why he always had the sniffles and asthma. I doubt seriously she knew until she was on the boat. Another thing that bugs me is if when Lois had the Kryptonite from Superman's back why didn't Jason go all krypto-impaired? Plot holes are fun.

Kryptonite doesn't have an effect on Jason though? I don't know if that is a plothole, or due to the fact he has different DNA. I thought Lex showing him the Kryptonite and him throwing the piano actually might have pointed to the Kryptonite giving Jason powers, almost a Bizzaro effect. Just a thought.

 

[matthooper]

I don't know about killing him off, that was the biggest mistake made in the 1st Batman run, when they killed the Joker.

The difference is that the Joker was killed in the first film. Luthor has now been used in four Superman films. Isn't there a point when he's been done enough for the films?

I wouldn't mind seeing him in the background ala Superman 2.

Again, it's been done. Why see that scenario again? If Singer has any hope of making a decent sequel, he has to move on.

 

[Showtime]

Well good or bad, it doesnt look like that is going to happen. Spacey is signed on and per his last appearance on late night, he said they are doing another one with him involved. I am not saying I wouldn't mind seeing Lex missing from the flick, but I liked Spacey's version. I would love to see a Lex more solidified in society ala Lexcorp.

 

[matthooper]

I would love to see a Lex more solidified in society ala Lexcorp.

That would have had to be established during SR. It's too late now.

 

[Jimmy, GL]

Kryptonite doesn't have an effect on Jason though? I don't know if that is a plothole, or due to the fact he has different DNA. I thought Lex showing him the Kryptonite and him throwing the piano actually might have pointed to the Kryptonite giving Jason powers, almost a Bizzaro effect. Just a thought.

No it's a plot hole. If it had been the way you described Jason would have been Supercharged when they needed to get out of the Kitchen supply closet from all the Kryptonite oustide the ship. Unless the ship was made of Lead. Which would kind of starnge... Anyway yea plot hole.

 

[Crazymaverick]

IMO the movie universe should try to dovetail into the current comicbook continuity (sue me I voted for tycoon Lex). That way it'll take it's own path getting there (thereby being fresh for all audiences) but it will ultimately become familiar to long time comic fans, thereby satisfying them.

Once there is more common ground between the movies and the comics, Warner/DC will ultimately profit by selling more comics to fresh readers who will have some point of reference.


Basically:

Fresh storylines in the movie + Longtime fans happy + Comics gaining new readers = WB making a ton of money.

 

[Il_Siciliano]

Hey guys, it's been a while.
I'd like Lex to be the Lexcorp guy again because that's the best Lex IMO. Being a convicted felon I doubt he could do the politics gig in the next movie.
Ultimately I'd like him to invent Braniac (using some alien technology supplied to him by a mysterious being), Superman fights Braniac and at the end of the sequel there's a massive huge scale alien invasion and that's how it ends. In the 3rd movie (which I'd like to be like a cooler Independence Day movie, just with Superman) we should realise that Darkseid is behind the invasion and he's the mysterious character who supplied Luthor with the Braniac technology, to use him to create a portal for the invasion or something.
Essentially the saga could be like that old elseworlds where Metallo kills the evil alien invader and Superboy becomes Superman. I think it's from 1995 or something.
Cheerio.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

No it's a plot hole. If it had been the way you described Jason would have been Supercharged when they needed to get out of the Kitchen supply closet from all the Kryptonite oustide the ship. Unless the ship was made of Lead. Which would kind of starnge... Anyway yea plot hole.

Kryptonite doesn't affect the kid. Don't you remember when Lex got suspicious and shoved the kryptonite in his face? When Jason had it almost on his face it didn't affect him and at that point Lex was like "never mind" and figured it can't be Superman's kid because the kryptonite did nothing. He only suspected it again when it was found that the piano was thrown. I can't believe people forgot Lex testing the kryptonite on him.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Found this to support my statement

wikipedia

"
While investigating Lex Luthor's yacht with Jason, the two are abducted by Luthor himself. When Luthor brings out some kryptonite, Jason appears faintly weak, inspiring Lex to ask Lois who the child's father is. Lois informs him that it is Richard. Luthor then holds the kryptonite much closer to Jason, but it produces no apparent effects on Jason. Luthor seems to shrug off his suspicion as false."

 

[FanboyX_Returns]

matthooper[/B] ]
Luthor has been in every Superman except III. Enough is enough with him, especially since Singer retreads everything about him anyway including his schemes.

If there is any hope of a good sequel, they need to get as far away from this Singer/Donner continuity as possible while keeping the spirit of those films. No Luthor. In this Donnersingerverse, he tried to destroy the world at least 3 times, 4 if you count S4. Do you think we'd let him run for president, or own a major corporation? Luthor has been done to death. Infact, it would have been nice if he died in SR. As far as on the run, with all of Supes powers, he can't find Luthor? That's even dumber than president Luthor.

It's too late now to do anything good with him. If Singer had established something interesting in SR, maybe we could continue with him. He's dead weight now.

Yep which is why Superman 3 is still my personal favorite in the series! heh t:

 

[superbaby]

Lets not forget Lex has a piece of information thousands of times more damaging than Superman's secret identity...

Lex knows Jason is Superman's son and could put Jason in a dangerous position if that knowledge was exposed to the public. Lex could manipulate silence from Superman, Lois and Richard because of that fact.

I still think both Richard and Lois knew Superman was the father all along and were trying to protect Jason. When confronted by Lex about Jason's paternity, Kate played Lois as though she was lying/trying to cover up the truth when she said 'Richard', it was pretty transparent.

Lex will likely never be the President of the United States (which wasnt the best concept in the comics anyway) but forming Lexcorp through some kind of partnership with the Govt would be the best.

It almost feels like 24 when the Govt needed Assad's help to defend the country against a nuclear threat.

there you go, the core story of singer's sequel.

 

[Eros]

Since Lex is an ex-con who went to jail for attemped genocide, and was released on an appeal I assume. Not to mention it takes years to start a corporate company, then theirs the fact Lois probbably is going to do a story on on Luthor kidnapping her and her son, and trying to destroy superman and the world.

 

[bosef982]

A lot of you guys are just reiterating stuff I've been saying for MONTHS now...but oh well...

 

[Jimmy, GL]

Found this to support my statement

wikipedia

"
While investigating Lex Luthor's yacht with Jason, the two are abducted by Luthor himself. When Luthor brings out some kryptonite, Jason appears faintly weak, inspiring Lex to ask Lois who the child's father is. Lois informs him that it is Richard. Luthor then holds the kryptonite much closer to Jason, but it produces no apparent effects on Jason. Luthor seems to shrug off his suspicion as false."

First. Never trust Wiki, the article you pointed out could be an opinion. Second that could have been just crappy child acting that it didn't look like it affected him. But if this is true and the Kryptonite didn't affect Jason then that would shoot down Lex's suspicions. Which I don't think it did. In my opinion Jason looked liek he was about to have an asthma attack from the Kryptonite.