The Official Mass Effect Thread

[Andrew Lucas]

Sounds like the Omega 4 Relay from ME2, unknown, not a single ship every returned from the trip.

Honestly, I'm tired of this "Ancient Technology" thing again, it was done back in ME1, and that new mysterious race mentioned in leak? I won't be surprised if the protagonist find old tech from them that will magically transport them to Andromeda.

Sighs, just retcon the damn endings and move on. It's not like the choices ever did a huge impact throughout the trilogy anyways.

 

[Thundercrack85]

But there are so many scenarios they could explore. Personally I would like something like Star Ocean, where they spend time on planets with developing civilizations. Anything from medieval to World War II-era like.

 

[James]

They don't need to retcon the ending(s). Setting a new game in a different galaxy puts the story so far away from the Reapers it doesn't matter. And if they do decide to return to the Milky Way some day, all they need to do is set it several hundred years in the future when everything will be legend and no one's quite sure how Space Jesus managed to stop the Reapers (as per the final scene with the man and child).

 

[Andrew Lucas]

But the lore, man, the lore...

Forget the Citadel, forget old characters, forget everything. Even on ME setting, it's mentioned that they hadn't even uncovered half of The Milk Way, it's illogical going to another galaxy if exploration is the reason behind it. I would be understand if it was because of the Reaper war, the last act of desperation if the Crucible didn't work. They send ships away, the crew uses stasis pods to survive for awhile, but even then, you can't find eezo that simply, now imagine for 300 years long FTL travel.

My head hurts.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

They don't need to retcon the ending(s). Setting a new game in a different galaxy puts the story so far away from the Reapers it doesn't matter. And if they do decide to return to the Milky Way some day, all they need to do is set it several hundred years in the future when everything will be legend and no one's quite sure how Space Jesus managed to stop the Reapers (as per the final scene with the man and child).

If the continue on the Milky Way, yes, they do, basically make them have no importance at all.

Remember Synthesis and all that BS about singularity? It's not that simple. You can make three different games with each ending, if they can't pick a canon one, then ignore them won't work either, if the game is set on the future, of course.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, they'll probably return to it some day.

I think after 3 major games, the Milky Way could use a break.

Let's see what's going on in the Three Musketeers galaxy.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Well, they'll probably return to it some day.

I think after 3 major games, the Milky Way could use a break.

Let's see what's going on in the Three Musketeers galaxy.

that's an underestimation of the vastness of the galaxy, man. there's so much of it that honestly, if they wanted to, they could set 2 more trilogies in it, reboot or not. the fact that player choice is heavy in this series is what complicates things.

and again, although it is probable, we don't even know if that reddit stuff is for real.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Break? I would agree if everything about it was really uncovered. I'm hoping this to be a fanmade because if you searched the official forums, you can see that only a poster from there could do something detailed like the leak, it's like the IT all over again. This is just what Ark Theory supporters would want to see. Still, I'm going to play the next ME regardless of the setting, but I'm already getting disappointed.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, I guess they could have gone with a very significant time skip.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Well, I guess they could have gone with a very significant time skip.

tbh, I wouldn't have liked that either. too much of time/space setting changes and it won't feel like mass effect anymore, which is the exact opposite of what the bioware team has been expressing

 

[TX85]

A big time skip could still feel like mass effect depending on the tone and some locations such as the citadel in the future

 

[James]

If the continue on the Milky Way, yes, they do, basically make them have no importance at all.

Remember Synthesis and all that BS about singularity? It's not that simple. You can make three different games with each ending, if they can't pick a canon one, then ignore them won't work either, if the game is set on the future, of course.

But they already did it, like I said, the ending shows the boy and a man talking about "The Shepard" in some far flung future. By the time the boy and the man have their conversation, no one's even sure what Shepard's gender was, or even that his/her name was Shepard.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

But they already did it, like I said, the ending shows the boy and a man talking about "The Shepard" in some far flung future. By the time the boy and the man have their conversation, no one's even sure what Shepard's gender was, or even that his/her name was Shepard.

fun fact, that was buzz aldrin. I hated that ending though. every little piece of it.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

But they already did it, like I said, the ending shows the boy and a man talking about "The Shepard" in some far flung future. By the time the boy and the man have their conversation, no one's even sure what Shepard's gender was, or even that his/her name was Shepard.

That happens with all the three endings. We don't get to see a Reaper chilling next to them, or if they have green glowing eyes, see what I'm talking about? The post credits scene doesn't show anything major, except that civilization survived, and Shepard is remembered as a hero, just that, it's very vague. I don't really get your point here.

 

[James]

Right, it's vague. My point is, they don't need to retcon the ending(s) because if they follow that post-credits scene, the facts of what happened are lost in time. How the reapers were stopped has become legend, so much time has passed the facts have been skewed to the point where Shepard and his adventures are more akin to campfire stories than historical documents.

I always thought it was a clever way to keep all three endings depending on which one the player picked, without actually having to definitively pick a canon option for future games.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Yes, the details about Shepard's adventure can be lost as time passes, you're right, but that's not where I'm getting at. Think about it, what really matters about the endings are it's outcomes in the galaxy, and each ending is very different to the other, so those consequences aren't mere details, they heavily impact the galaxy and it will forever affect the galaxy.

Destroy, Reapers and Synthetics are dead. Civilization stays alive and strong at the temporary cost of the mass relays.

Control, Reapers are alive, Shepard leads them, for better or for worse. They help civilization to technology improve, Shepard is a guardian, or a dictator.

Synthesis, singularity, everyone is connected to each other, everyone is improved, there's peace (forced), and everyone is green.

Those are vastly different endings, and these endings can't simply be lost as time passes, they will forever affect the galaxy in some way.

If we're talking about Shepard's life, sure, details are eventually going to be twisted, lost and etc. That's accurate and the post credits scene shows that.

 

[James]

I don't believe any of the endings will forever effect the galaxy though. Who's to say what events occurred during the several hundred years (or whatever stretch of time) since any of the endings? With that much time having passed they can create any status quo they like for the galaxy, regardless of how ME3 ended.

I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Well, let's just agree to disagree then, and hope for a new awesome Mass Effect game

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I don't believe any of the endings will forever effect the galaxy though. Who's to say what events occurred during the several hundred years (or whatever stretch of time) since any of the endings? With that much time having passed they can create any status quo they like for the galaxy, regardless of how ME3 ended.

I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you.

that's essentially saying again that your choices in ME in the end don't matter. Which again reflects on how poorly the trilogy ended. The Me3 ending has to go down as one of the biggest gaming controversies in history.

 

[Havok83]

I don't think it really matters as ME 1-3 was envisioned as a trilogy. I don't think they should try to be bound by choices from that. It's a brand new ball game

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I don't think it really matters as ME 1-3 was envisioned as a trilogy. I don't think they should try to be bound by choices from that. It's a brand new ball game

what I said wasn't in regards to Me4 but in fact the wrapping up of the trilogy.

 

[gohei_]

I saw the other day that BIoware has a really cool replica of the Scorpion pistol from ME3 on their shop, for those of you who collect those things.

 

[Iceman]

We better see a ****load of ME stuff at E3. Can't wait much longer. t:

 

[Destructus86]

Yes, the details about Shepard's adventure can be lost as time passes, you're right, but that's not where I'm getting at. Think about it, what really matters about the endings are it's outcomes in the galaxy, and each ending is very different to the other, so those consequences aren't mere details, they heavily impact the galaxy and it will forever affect the galaxy.

Destroy, Reapers and Synthetics are dead. Civilization stays alive and strong at the temporary cost of the mass relays.

Control, Reapers are alive, Shepard leads them, for better or for worse. They help civilization to technology improve, Shepard is a guardian, or a dictator.

Synthesis, singularity, everyone is connected to each other, everyone is improved, there's peace (forced), and everyone is green.

Those are vastly different endings, and these endings can't simply be lost as time passes, they will forever affect the galaxy in some way.

If we're talking about Shepard's life, sure, details are eventually going to be twisted, lost and etc. That's accurate and the post credits scene shows that.

Depending on how far off in the future they go (which sounds like very far in the future) any of those endings could still fit and totally changed centuries later. Quite a bit.

 

[James]

that's essentially saying again that your choices in ME in the end don't matter. Which again reflects on how poorly the trilogy ended. The Me3 ending has to go down as one of the biggest gaming controversies in history.

I do not disagree with you.