Thundercrack85
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I just hope they'll be a little more creative than Star Trek and not name every ship the Normandy.
Do you like co-op modes in general? I was a massive fan of Horde, particularly in the Gears 2 days, bu the ME mode gets really good once you start levelling up and playing with good guys on harder difficulties. I think I'll be playing that to death on ME4.Yeah, I'm noticing that lol. MP? Eh, never understood why the large majority of the fan base loved it so much, it's just a cheap horde mode IMO.
lol, word. yeah but if I was shepard, I wouldn't stop myself from continuing my mission just because it would mean being on a ship other than mine.In other words a different ship (car in my case) is just not the same dude! Ask your buddy Han. Ask Wedge Antilles. Put Darth Vader and the Emperor in a different ship to the Death Start: Just kidding around.
An inferior ship could get your whole crew killed if you get shot down due to lower speed, aerial agility, shields etc. And also put the whole fate of the galaxy into the balance! Sounds like my Shepard was a lot more responsible.lol, word. yeah but if I was shepard, I wouldn't stop myself from continuing my mission just because it would mean being on a ship other than mine.
good point. but if the alliance is capable of building the crucible in like under a year, they should have several ships of normandy caliber at their disposal. only difference being that the normandy has reapertech on board.An inferior ship could get your whole crew killed if you get shot down due to lower speed, aerial agility, shields etc. And also put the whole fate of the galaxy into the balance! Sounds like my Shepard was a lot more responsible.t:
Do you like co-op modes in general? I was a massive fan of Horde, particularly in the Gears 2 days, bu the ME mode gets really good once you start levelling up and playing with good guys on harder difficulties. I think I'll be playing that to death on ME4.
I just hope they'll be a little more creative than Star Trek and not name every ship the Normandy.
which synthetics are we talking about here? and who is murdering who that is murdering self defense?Because those synthetics had free will, you're basically murdering an organic who is defending itself against it's creators, it's not really their fault, and it's not fair.
good point. but if the alliance is capable of building the crucible in like under a year, they should have several ships of normandy caliber at their disposal. only difference being that the normandy has reapertech on board.
but if they can construct it in such short time, they should certainly be capable of having ships as powerful as the normandy as well.Months. There isn't a ship like the Normandy, it's just one, and the most efficient one. They have to take care of that baby well. The Crucible is one time only, it hasn't suffered damage like the Normandy did.
It's also the 'home' ship that the crew know like the back of their hand. Using a new ship on the eve of battle seems crazy to me just beacuse they want to rush in. Anyway you got the point. Just different ways of explaining it. I reckon this new ME set of games will have far better endings, and hopefully regular instances of ME2 ending/Citadel type gameplay, and if they want to do DLCs like this in future do it where there is no controversy over timing so that everyone is happy.good point. but if the alliance is capable of building the crucible in like under a year, they should have several ships of normandy caliber at their disposal. only difference being that the normandy has reapertech on board.
which synthetics are we talking about here? and who is murdering who that is murdering self defense?
I spent a lot more time on G2 Horde but the ME3 MP was a very good basis for them to build on for ME4 and future games, and maybe they will improve it sufficiently to get borderline guys like you more interested.Good question, I do like, maybe I get bored too quickly. I spent a good amount of time in ME3's MP, maybe not the same amount of time as you (Very likely), I'm still amazed at people who are playing the MP since the game's release. The protect drone, recover artifacts and etc, gets old quickly IMO. I'll admit the MP is not bad, just not something I can be playing allll the time.
but if they can construct it in such short time, they should certainly be capable of having ships as powerful as the normandy as well.
It's also the 'home' ship that the crew know like the back of their hand. Using a new ship on the eve of battle seems crazy to me just beacuse they want to rush in. Anyway you got the point. Just different ways of explaining it. I reckon this new ME set of games will have far better endings, and hopefully regular instances of ME2 ending/Citadel type gameplay, and if they want to do DLCs like this in future do it where there is no controversy over timing so that everyone is happy.
it is not as if the normandy is even used for space battles. from what I remember in Me3, it used strictly for ftl travelling and plenty of other ships in that universe is capable of doing so.It's also the 'home' ship that the crew know like the back of their hand. Using a new ship on the eve of battle seems crazy to me just beacuse they want to rush in. Anyway you got the point. Just different ways of explaining it.
yeah, I'm sure they won't pull another deus ex rbg thing again with their ending, if it's going to be another backtobacktoback trilogy again.I reckon this new ME set of games will have far better endings, and hopefully regular instances of ME2 ending/Citadel type gameplay, and if they want to do DLCs like this in future do it where there is no controversy over timing so that everyone is happy.
I spent a lot more time on G2 Horde but the ME3 MP was a very good basis for them to build on for ME4 and future games, and maybe they will improve it sufficiently to get borderline guys like you more interested.
I remember hearing something like that but I didn't keep track of this stuff either. Others here might know.Didn't one of the main guys who wrote the series leave? I don't tend to keep track with that sort of thing, but I seem to remember hearing that someone departed the Mass Effect team who may or may not have had final say over things like how ME3 ended.
i'll give you that, but from what I recall in Me3, the normandy wasn't vital for space battling or anything like that - it was just there for ftl traveling. so going back to the original point - if the setup of citadel was that shepard needed to take a break because the normandy was down, he could've/should've said "put me on another ship."No, they don't. The Crucible was a multi species collaboration. The Normandy was built by Cerberus who spent billions of credits on it, the Alliance wouldn't ever spent such amount of credits in one single ship again. One Admiral from ME1 said that you can build an entire fleet with the effort that was destined to the Normandy.
When you're at war, you need tons of weaponry, not a single ship.
these games and the starchild tries to get you to think that war between synthetics and organics is inevitable, and perhaps such a thing could happen but shepard was able to broker peace. starchild says the peace won't last, but he also implied shepard would die if he picked destroy - which is another contradiction because that is the only option that leaves the possibility of shepard surviving.Every single one, why do you think that synthetics are going to attack their creators? Because those creators perceived them as threat, every specie has a sense of self preservation, it's a natural thing. When someone attacks you, you attack back. Survival.
edi was built with some reapertech so she's a different story, and if you mean that killing a synthetic means killing a living thing, then no, I don't agree. in fact, this was a dialogue option in Me3. I think edi herself on the normandy shows a simulation of geth integrity/intelligence, and shepard could either say "yes, with that much integration geth are living creatures" or you could say "no, I don't consider them living." and i go with renegade shepard.If you kill EDI, you're basically killing a living being. Got it?
Drew Karpyshin left. He co-wrote ME 1&2 with Mac Walters, who was the lead in ME3. But it was never because of an inside disagreement, in fact, I've never heard that.
i'll give you that, but from what I recall in Me3, the normandy wasn't vital for space battling or anything like that - it was just there for ftl traveling. so going back to the original point - if the setup of citadel was that shepard needed to take a break because the normandy was down, he could've/should've said "put me on another ship."
these games and the starchild tries to get you to think that war between synthetics and organics is inevitable, and perhaps such a thing could happen but shepard was able to broker peace. starchild says the peace won't last, but he also implied shepard would die if he picked destroy - which is another contradiction because that is the only option that leaves the possibility of shepard surviving.edi was built with some reapertech so she's a different story, and if you mean that killing a synthetic means killing a living thing, then no, I don't agree. in fact, this was a dialogue option in Me3. I think edi herself on the normandy shows a simulation of geth integrity/intelligence, and shepard could either say "yes, with that much integration geth are living creatures" or you could say "no, I don't consider them living." and i go with renegade shepard.
Regarding whether or not Synthetics are living beings, I never considered them so. A robot's a robot as far as I'm concerned, no different than a toaster or a cellphone. It's why I don't bother with movies like the recent 'Chappie', because I know I won't care one way or the other what becomes of the titular character. EDI only meant anything to me (err, my Shepard) in so much as she held meaning to Joker. Legion was a tool I kept around so long as he proved useful, when it came to wiping out the Geth is wasn't even a question -destroy a bunch of killer toasters? No problemo.
I don't think anyone said it was? But that's interesting, I wonder if that Drew fellow had stuck around, would ME3 have ended the way it did?
what is simple is that every single moment shepard was doing something other than progressively trying to tend to the war, people were dying. it's not like shepard if shepard went on another ship, he would continue using it even after he was given word that work on the normandy was complete.Dude, without the Normandy, the majority of things that Shepard has done would never have been accomplished.
He's the commanding office of the Normandy, you can't just move him and the whole crew to other ship, this is the military we're talking about. There's regulations to follow, it's not simple.
I disagree. living=being organic. if the geth, edi and whatever else are 100% living creatures, then they would have to be organic. if synthetics were "living" creatures, then the synthesis option would not be doing anything for them because they would already be alive.The Geth have reaper code, they have free will. You're murdering a living being. Even EDI said at the FOB that she feels alive for the first time ever. A machine said that.
I was pointing out a plot hole. Me3 is full of those. starchild claims destroy destroys all synthetics, implies the inclusion of shepard, even though shepard can survive.The Catalyst didn't want you to pick Destroy, that's obvious. But he wasn't lying about everything else, why would he? He's just doing his job. Heck, he gave you the option to stop the Reapers for once and for all.
what is simple is that every single moment shepard was doing something other than progressively trying to tend to the war, people were dying. it's not like shepard if shepard went on another ship, he would continue using it even after he was given word that work on the normandy was complete.
I disagree. living=being organic. if the geth, edi and whatever else are 100% living creatures, then they would have to be organic. if synthetics were "living" creatures, then the synthesis option would not be doing anything for them because they would already be alive.I was pointing out a plot hole. Me3 is full of those. starchild claims destroy destroys all synthetics, implies the inclusion of shepard, even though shepard can survive.