True, but juding from how often they're bashed, I think the same could be said about them as the Mummy movies, except in this case more people went and didn't like it enough to see it again (and the Mummy sequel still made more than the first).
They don't have to pay to see it more than once...
True, but juding from how often they're bashed, I think the same could be said about them as the Mummy movies, except in this case more people went and didn't like it enough to see it again (and the Mummy sequel still made more than the first).
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And the Mummy films came out quite a while ago, with inflation considered, I really doubt that AWE has made as much as two Mummy films combined.
I am gunna be honest there is no way Pirates has grossed almost 2 billion dollars off one time views... you are foolish to think so
and also there is no way AWE would have made anything if DMC is as hated as you suggest
I'm suggesting that alot of people hate them and they're bashed quite often, I'm not suggesting that there aren't alot of people that like them.
I don't think a reboot of a franchise that had been dead for years is a very good comparison to a trilogy that just had a movie out.
AWE did open strong yes, but not as strong as DMC.
correct but the built in fandom of LOTR gaurnteed its success before a reel of film was ever made, it didn't have to be as good (in the eye of the beholder) as they where for them to be monumental success, if they where even considered average movies they still would have made a fortune
the idea of Pirates of the caribbean was scoffed at originally and most people where chanting bust, for it to make the 625 it did is more impressive than fellowship getting the insane amount it did imo cause of the fact they are possible sans the bible, and maybe now harry potter, maybe, the most popular series of books ever
so the way I see it is DMC and AWE's 2 billion dollar gross just shows the true popularity of the movies cause there is nothing that they come from just plain old original movies that people love, i.e. they don't love the books for the reason they are going, they just love the movies
But your whole basis on Pirates being more popular than LOTR was intiially the fact of how much the Pirates movies made?
But now that I told you LOTR made more, it's now that Pirates wasn't based on any books and more of a semi original idea and didn't have a built in fanbase that now you are saying it's more popular?
I mean your original statement was if AWE made a billion you would think that would make it more popular than the LOTR movies?
If you are just basing it on gross, the LOTR made that much money when ticket prices were cheaper? In 2001, average ticket price was $5.66 in 2007 is $6.58, that's almost a dollar which means obviously more people saw LOTR movies than Pirates at least in # of tickets sold.
Okay, I'm not going to get into a LOTR vs. Pirates which one is better because obviously, it's a matter of opinion. However, if you just don't like LOTR and because you like Pirates, you shouldn't let that bias your opinion?
Pirates isn't my favorite trilogy, not even of this decade but I won't discount it's popularity.
actually DMC opened to 130, and I believe AWE is 150, and really the only difference is the extra 8 pm showing that AWE had, beisdes that both opened on a Friday
Domestically, yes but foreign gross looks the same.Fair enough, none the less a reboot of a dead franchise isn't a very good template to a trilogy that just had an installment out, and AWE did drop off financially from DMC.
Fair enough, none the less a reboot of a dead franchise isn't a very good template to a trilogy that just had an installment out, and AWE did drop off financially from DMC.
Does it matter though that LOTR was adapted from the books?
As opposed to one adapted from a Disney Ride?
Does it make it less popular?
Either way, there's no way to guage that. If LOTR was an original idea, maybe it wouldn't have or maybe it would have still been popular? But there's no way to honestly tell.
And this all goes back to opinion.
In terms of popularity? I would choose the one with the gross, Oscars, critical acclaim and the AFI nod.
You seem to want to argue soley the gross and that it wasn't based on any books.
Fair enough, none the less a reboot of a dead franchise isn't a very good template to a trilogy that just had an installment out, and AWE did drop off financially from DMC.
In my opinion? I think LOTR is more popular than Pirates for the same reasons I stated earlier.and you seem to think the disney ride is as popular as one of the best selling books of all time
In my opinion? I think LOTR is more popular than Pirates for the same reasons I stated earlier.
No I don't think it's close. Just cause I say Pirates is popular doesn't mean I think it's in the same level as LOTR.
Domestically, yes but foreign gross looks the same.