I still dont see why that ment they could not have arranged it just before the sceen.
Even if Gordan just got there all it would have taken is a few seconds and besides Batman could have called Gordan on the phone while he was on the way in.
My point is, if he did speak to Gordon before he got in the room, how did he sneak in the room? And if he was in the room all along, how didn't Joker hear him talking to Gordon on the phone?!
Again Batman sneaks into all kind of police stations,Government offices and prisons all the time in the comics.
He even snuck into the White House a few times with no one seeing him.
I dont see why Nolans Batman wouldnt be able to do the same.
Yes, he does to this. But I can't personally recall one where he sneaks into a sealed interrogation room? Nolan's Batman is able to sneak into police stations and the like (think Gordon's office in Begins) but getting into an apparently sealed room?
Because Gordan wanted a chance to do things by the Book first.
And by waiting for Gordan to leave the room it gives Gordan
plausible deny ability.
The Joker [or any suspect cant prove that the police had any knowlige that Batman was there.
I would give you Gordon wanting to do things by the book, but Batman doesn't; and if he was in that interrogation room before Gordon got there I don't believe that he'd have just stood there when he knew Dent's life was at stake. This suggests to me that Batman got in the room when Gordon did, but how did he do it!?
Even that question has an eazy answer....There's got to be an air vent in the room.Batman could have entered threw it.
Looking at the official pictures, I can't see any air vents? And if there was would Batman be able to squeeze through without making a noise and not letting Joker know that he was in there?
Why would he assume that the Joker wouldnt talk to him???
I inferred that Joker's been interrogated by the other cops and hasn't said a word, so if Batman was in the room all that time then I'd have thought he could see that Joker wasn't going to co-operate.
Batman has never encountered the Joker before so how would he know that he couldnt scare it out of him like he does other common crooks.
He has met Joker before this point in the film, and has been able to see that he's not a 'common crook'. He even considers giving himself up because of the Joker! He knows he's far from ordinary by this point of the film.
Your questions come from the frame of mind of someone who understands the characters and thats good but the two characters in question dont have a relationship with each other at that point.
Batman was only starting to understand how sick Joke is.Batman may have still thought he might have a chance at getting the questions answered by just scaring him.
I can't agree with this because Batman has had plenty of evidence that Joker wasn't what he's been dealing with before. He even says "He [Batman] can't endure this." Joker had already pushed Bruce to a breaking point with his actions. I think the fact that he starts beating the hell out of Joker instantly suggests that he knows he cant just scare him. That he's going to have to push his usual boundries.
Like I said all it would have taken was a few seconds on the phone.
But if he was in the room the whole time with Joker, Joker surely would have heard Batman on the phone to Gordon (especially with Bale's Batman voice : o )
He could have gotten into the room a few different ways.
I can only see one point of entry other than the one Gordon comes through, and that's the door behind Joker - but those are heavy doors and would surely make a noise , however slight, and alert Joker to somebody else entering the room.
By law they are required to.
But they obviously didn't as nobody went in.
Or you can chuck it up to Batman doing one of the more impossible things he always does in the comics.
Ether way I find sneaking into a room of people much more believable then guliding over the city with your cape.
But this is a film, it's not the comics, and sometimes things happen in film for dramatic impacts because it's an entirely different medium to film. I think it's a great scene, and it doesn't ruin the film for me or anything, but I think it takes liberties as regards him getting in there. It's supposed to surprise us, which it does, and if they gave us any hint that he was in there it would ruin that surprise. So I can see why they did it.
Your still not getting it.
I do.
Let me try to break it down.
Alright.
They hired Joker to kill Batman.
Yes, that's what he offered his services for.
Lao hid all the mobs money.
Yes, he put in a 'safe place' for them.
Joker found all the money.
Yes, he got Lau to take him to the money.
Joker called the mob and told them where the money was.
Yep. He's surprised when Maroni doesn't appear.
It was the Joker who was giving the Mob back their money minus his cut.
But why were they going to let him take his cut? You said yourself that they hired him to kill Batman who was their 'real' problem as he put it. Maybe I've blanked out a big scene where they tell him to get Lau back for them?
They couldnt stop him from taking his half.
Why not? These aren't defenceless people; they are hardened criminals. When Joker burns the money he tries to stop him.
The Joker had some of his men there too ....remember the guy that was poring the gas?????.It was a stand off.
Yes, but Cechen and his men aren't rollovers. He never seems to have any intentions of stopping Joker from taking the cash.
Because Joker had found it.
So the reason they let him have half is because he got it back for them? This does seem to be the only option there is, but it just seems weak because Joker doesn't fulfill his promise of killing Batman, which means that their real problem still hadn't been solved and the money could easily be taken away again because of this. Maroni isn't even bothered about the money because he gives its (and Joker's) locations up to Gordon.
If you lost a million dollars and someone found it wouldnt you let them have half of it back?????
Quite a hypothetical question! If I were a criminal who had all of that dirty money and had earnt it through killing people and the like, no I probably wouldn't be giving somebody half for finding it; in fact, I'd probably be killing them! And I certainly wouldn't pay somebody if they didn't do the job I hired them to do.
And when he did move to stop Joker he was killed for it.
Yep. That's what you get for dealing with The Joker.
Not the way I saw it.
No, it's supposed to be all of the money. That was its location.
Joker said he was only burning his half.
Yeah, he was burning his half but it was in with their half, which is why Cechen tries to stop him!
Yes it is.
t:. I misunderstood that guy. Of course one should assume he escapes, there's no way around. To me it'd just seem a little difficult to escape with Batman waiting on the street. 
(Or maybe I just gave you more ammunition, LOL!)
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