The Official Superman Score & Soundtrack Thread - Part 1

[Lily Adler]

Yeah I love contemporary musicals!

 

[El Payaso]

Whose saying the Williams theme won't be used?

Logic and common sense. And Snyder who stated that this movie is in no way related to the previous franchise.

 

[Lily Adler]

Oh Spock, there ya go letting logic do the talking.

 

[Elayis]

I think Elliot Goldenthal would be a great choice.

 

[Elevator Man]

As long as Snyder doesn't hire a composer to copy Goldenthal's "Titus" score. *COUGH*300*COUGH*. And hire a talented composer to write something fresh and un-generic. I know it's a long shot and too much to ask. I'll just hope for the best and expect the worst with both the film and score.

 

[Rust]

Goldenthal would be a very different choice for this kinda movie. He ususally does dark stuff, but I could see him doing interesting ideas here.

Yesterday I saw Shyamalan's Devil. The score was done by Fernando Velazquez. Kickass music, but very dark, much like Goldenthal. The score had some intense parts that I can certainly see working for the action-parts of MOS. The title-sequence alone has Zod written all over it IMO.

It's also possible Elfman could score it. I could actually see him reinventing himself and doing a great thematic-score like he used to do them.

 

[El Payaso]

Goldenthal would be a very different choice for this kinda movie. He ususally does dark stuff, but I could see him doing interesting ideas here.

I'm not sure if Goldenthal "would be a very different choice for this kinda movie." He did Batman Forever, right?

It's also possible Elfman could score it. I could actually see him reinventing himself and doing a great thematic-score like he used to do them.

Yes. But he needs to be pushed. After all what he did for Hulk was fantastic. But Ang Lee had to be over him all the time so he wouldn't repeat himself.

 

[Alonsovich]

I'm not sure if Goldenthal "would be a very different choice for this kinda movie." He did Batman Forever, right?




Yes. But he needs to be pushed. After all what he did for Hulk was fantastic. But Ang Lee had to be over him all the time so he wouldn't repeat himself.

Well, honestly BF's score IS quite good anyway, it's not like Goldenthal is an incompetent composer. His Final Fantasy score is actually a great fit for a Snyder style Superman, and he actually also did fantastic scores for both Alien 3 and Heat. He's definitely an awesome choice in my book. Randomly Elfman was attached twice to Superman films, with Burton and Ratner...

 

[Rust]

Yeah, like I hinted at, he would have to work for it reminding people how fantastic he used to be.

Forgot about Batman Forever, but Batman's still a darker, edgier character. I guess BF is Goldenthal having fun.

 

[El Payaso]

Well, honestly BF's score IS quite good anyway, it's not like Goldenthal is an incompetent composer. His Final Fantasy score is actually a great fit for a Snyder style Superman, and he actually also did fantastic scores for both Alien 3 and Heat. He's definitely an awesome choice in my book.

Apparently you thought my comment was negative? Not actually. I just said Goldenthal wasn't unfamiliar with less-than-dark superhero mvoies. I huess you cannot mention Schumacher's bat-movies without people thinking it's a negative comment.

Randomly Elfman was attached twice to Superman films, with Burton and Ratner...

Ha! True!

 

[Marvin]

Sucks Zimmer turned down the offer.
I have a feeling Znyder will incorporate music into the film as he often does.

 

[Lily Adler]

Smashing Pumpkins? AC/DC? Britney Spears? The possibilities are endless.

If they get Tyler Bates, I wouldn't be opposed, just disappointed.

 

[Elayis]

Sucks Zimmer turned down the offer.
I have a feeling Znyder will incorporate music into the film as he often does.

As far as I know, Zimmer never turned it down; he just was never offered it.

That big to-do about what he would do on a Superman film was speculation only. The 24/7 news circuit just got his quote wrong.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I don't know how I feel about Elliot Goldenthal. All I know of his work is Batman Forever, and that loud, obnoxious, campy score was a huge let down after Elfman. But, I suppose it fit Schumacher's movies.

 

[Marvin]

As far as I know, Zimmer never turned it down; he just was never offered it.

That big to-do about what he would do on a Superman film was speculation only. The 24/7 news circuit just got his quote wrong.

Well when he announces to the major outlets that he wouldn't do it if he was offered, I just don't see an offer coming his way.

 

[Alonsovich]

I don't know how I feel about Elliot Goldenthal. All I know of his work is Batman Forever, and that loud, obnoxious, campy score was a huge let down after Elfman. But, I suppose it fit Schumacher's movies.

Heat, Final Fantasy Spirits Within and Alien 3. Fairly easy to find on YouTube...

 

[Elayis]

Well when he announces to the major outlets that he wouldn't do it if he was offered, I just don't see an offer coming his way.

Hm. Hadn't heard of that. Do you happen to have a link?

Heat, Final Fantasy Spirits Within and Alien 3. Fairly easy to find on YouTube...

I concur. Final Fantasy is easily my favorite of his (and one of my favorite scores ever). Heat was also quite good. Haven't heard Interview with the Vampire in awhile, but from what I remember of it, it was also quite excellent.

Yes, a lot of his work does tend to be dark dramas, but he's quite a talented composer, and I'm sure he'd be more than up to the challenge of doing Superman. It would also give him a big media push, which he needs. Or he'll be stuck doing his wife's films for the rest of his career (Julie Taymor, if you didn't know).

 

[Lily Adler]

Interview with the Vampire you say? I wasn't really impressed with the Goldenthal scores that were mentioned, but this certainly has piqued my interest.

 

[Dr.]

As far as I know, Zimmer never turned it down; he just was never offered it.

That big to-do about what he would do on a Superman film was speculation only. The 24/7 news circuit just got his quote wrong.

Well when he announces to the major outlets that he wouldn't do it if he was offered, I just don't see an offer coming his way.

Hm. Hadn't heard of that. Do you happen to have a link?

A modest bit of detective work cwink yields…

NBC/Popcorn Biz interviewed Zimmer in Oct/10 where a hypothetical question was posed:

Given that Nolan is also overseeing the development of a renewed revival of “Superman” helmed by Zack Snyder, Popcorn Biz had to ask Zimmer’s opinion on a burning question, whether he works on that film or not: do you re-employ John Williams’ theme for the Man of Steel, one of the most lauded scores in film history, or do you start anew with a fresh, fully original score?

Zimmer gives a vague, diplomatic non-answer.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/po...or-Nolan-Batman---and-Superman-105838533.html

This story was picked up by Entertainment Weekly where it suddenly became unequivocal.

According to NBC-San Diego, Hans Zimmer, the maestro behind Gladiator, Inception, and the Nolan Batman films, will compose the new score for Snyder’s superhero.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/02/hans-zimmer-superman-score/

Finally, The Hollywood Reporter clarified:

Zimmer: Right! John Williams, the greatest living composer -- full stop. And that happens to be one of his greatest themes. So no. And I’m not thinking of rewriting Beethoven’s ninth either. It just sounds like a thankless task, you know? So that’s unequivocally a no. I have never spoken with Zack Snyder.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/hans-zimmer-scoring-superman-fast-56714

That said… if one assumes that the Williams theme is definitely out then somebody is going to have to rewrite “Beethoven’s 9th.” Why not Zimmer? I expect Zimmer’s likely non-participation will have more to do with his schedule or Snyder’s preference for someone else – not Zimmer’s reluctance to take on the challenge.

 

[Marvin]

Yea I remember it went down like that.
At this point I think this production needs as many solids as it can possibly get. That's kinda the way Nolan works.(His casting(the entire Batman cast)) Zimmer, etc). It works out for him.

So far Superman(with it's cast) has been mostly going that route. I just hope they get one of the bigger effects companies on board(in some capacity). And I hope they get a composer that consistently delivers.

Please NO James Newton Howard. He has his supporters but I find his work consistently forgettable. If only Jerry Goldsmith was still working. James Horner is my last hope for one of the greats but his stuff is a little overly sappy for what I assume is a Snyder Production.

John Williams seems like the most obvious choice. How about he steps up to the plate and tops his own work(maybe the most recognized work in film history). Does he have the balls or is he going give the same rational as Zimmer.

 

[Lily Adler]

Nevermind, found out through Google. Great choice. He seems like Michael Bay's go to guy.

 

[Elevator Man]

Yeah, like I hinted at, he would have to work for it reminding people how fantastic he used to be.

If you're talking about Elfman. Listen to Elfman's The Kingdom, Standard Operating Procedure, Milk, Taking Woodstock, and The Next Three days, All those scores aren't typical of Elfman and shows he has plenty of range.

Forgot about Batman Forever, but Batman's still a darker, edgier character. I guess BF is Goldenthal having fun.

Goldenthal's score is the best thing about BF. It was back in '95 as it is today. I remember on a doc. on the BF dvd (about the score) he talked about scoring other superhero movies one of them was Superman and the other was Spider-man. Interesting. Since both of the reboots don't have a composer as of yet. BTW, I know that interview was back in '05 but still.

Sucks Zimmer turned down the offer.
I have a feeling Znyder will incorporate music into the film as he often does.

No it doesn't. Smartest decison he ever made. Now I just hope he can stick to it.

 

[mclay18]

John Williams seems like the most obvious choice. How about he steps up to the plate and tops his own work(maybe the most recognized work in film history). Does he have the balls or is he going give the same rational as Zimmer.

John Williams is not scoring MOS. The man is essentially retired, and the only scores he does now are for Steven Spielberg. It would be amazing if he did, but right now... nope.

 

[DKDetective]

I have absolutely no idea what an effective way to score Man of Steel will be. Superman is typically something that you would associate with classic bombastic epic symphonic Hollywood composing but any composer who goes down that route would suffer from the Williams comparison. Doing something different like Zimmer's work on Nolan's Batman seems equally wrong. To me, it doesn't fit the optimistic tone that a Superman film ought to convey. I really hope Snyder doesn't go the route of his other films and sample lots of pop music and hard rock. I feel really sorry for whoever gets the job.

 

[mclay18]

I really hope Snyder doesn't go the route of his other films and sample lots of pop music and hard rock. I feel really sorry for whoever gets the job.

Watchmen utilized 1980s songs to illustrate the era of the movie, because the costumes and production design aren't enough. Sucker Punch had songs, because, well several sequences were set in a nightclub. 300 and Legend of the Guardians didn't have any pop music or rock samples.

I think MOS will just have a regular orchestral score, free of pop music and hard rock samples. But it does need a strong, memorable theme. If Snyder doesn't want the Williams theme, they can always use the Shirley Walker theme from the animated series...