The Official Superman Thread - Part 1

[Drz]

JMS' weakness on WW was the grim murder spree due to it being an elseworld, he could have fleshed out and created some new cool supporting characters.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Understood but at the same time as well Superman should have been updated by Lois or someone with what Lex has been up to or at least like how they did with that whole Perry White story have Superman just floating outside of Lex's window one time telling him he'll be keeping an eye on him or something like that to let you know Superman is watching or aware of what he's doing.

As far as DC wanting to move on I don't blame them. Grounded is not a bad concept but is a story that should have been a 6 to 8 issue story arc; not 12. Had it been 6 issues I think people would have been more open to it because it would not have dragged the story out but kept it at a good pace.

I'll completely agree with you there.

 

[Tron Bonne]

How can you hate JMS' Wonder Woman yet like it when Hester came on board? All Hester did was script the plots that JMS put out, those things that Hester did that you said you liked were JMS' ideas. It's a reason why he wants to do another arc of Wonder Woman before Odyssey so that he can put out his own ideas.

He followed the plot structure of JMS, sure, but the writing and tone changed pretty significantly when Hester came on board. That first issue of Hester's felt like an entirely different storyline it was so jarring. He kind of fell more in line with the tone of JMS' issues as he went on, but it still feels very different, as many have noted.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Hester is doing a pretty damn good job on Wonder Woman, I certainly agree that there is a bit of difference in tone, just like with Grounded, but unlike Roberson and Grounded, Hester is nailing it with Wonder Woman.

But a lot of the stuff that Mysti points out that she likes with Hester's Wonder Woman like the cat, I really doubt that Hester came up with. I don't think that he really added in any new ideas or characters, he's just doing the scripting.

 

[Mystirious]

I doubt that characters like Phillipus and Galenthias would have been as fun if JMS wrote them his Wonder Woman was too grim and dark for me to enjoy it

Some of Hester's issues have had similar problems but it has been balanced out with fun and hopeful moments

 

[Superman_]

I don't know I guess I enjoy his Wonder Woman because it seems more like how Wonder Woman Earth One should be.

 

[Mystirious]

Do you mean Hester or JMS Superman

 

[Drz]

WW Earth One's Diana should definatly be young, but the story itself wouldn't work for the general audience and it has just too much murder and too few characters being fleshed out. Superman Earth One got people into Jimmy Olsen quickly on how cool and risk taking the guy was and people got a good first impressions on Ma Kent, Lois and so on.

 

[Mystirious]

I did not like Superman Earth One but Jinmy is always cool

He wears a bow tie

Bow ties are cool

 

[Watchman]

Bow ties are cool

Is it the 23rd yet?

 

[Mystirious]

Almost Watchman

I'mma wear a fez when I watch Doctor Who

 

[yenaled]

I wear a Fez now.

 

[Mystirious]

Fez's are cool

Just don't let River Song near it

She has a baffling hatred of hats

 

[CrimsonMist]

So I bought a hardcover copy of Superman: Kryptonite today at my comic shop because it looked and sounded cool(Darwyn Cooke and Tim Sale?! Sold). Good choice or no?

 

[Mystirious]

The art is nice but I did not dig the story all that much

 

[Motown Marvel]

So I bought a hardcover copy of Superman: Kryptonite today at my comic shop because it looked and sounded cool(Darwyn Cooke and Tim Sale?! Sold). Good choice or no?

ehhh.

especially considering the talent on the book, it shoulda been a whole lot better.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, I only stuck around for 3 issues before bailing. Kinda sucked.

 

[Mystirious]

Yep

Never been a fan of Darwyn Cooke but I gave it a try and thought that it was a pretgy dull crummy story

 

[Grayson]

Loved Superman # 710. Really well-written, imo.

 

[Tron Bonne]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/03/31/action-comics-900-all-of-the-many-many-details/

We’re really pulling out all the stops for a milestone issue as big as ACTION COMICS #900, and the amount of talent that’s been pulled together for the issue is truly outstanding.​

The 51-page lead story by Paul Cornell, Pete Woods and Jesus Merino sees Superman return to ACTION just in time for both the conclusion of the critically-acclaimed “Black Ring” story starring Lex Luthor and the start of the next act of “Reign of Doomsday”. As a bonus, Dan Jurgens, Rags Morales, Ardian Syaf, Jamal Igle and Gary Frank are each contributing their artistic talents to special segments of this main story.
But wait, there’s more!
Action #900 will contain short comic stories by:
- Damon Lindelof & Ryan Sook
- David Goyer & Miguel Sepulveda
- Geoff Johns & Gary Frank
- Paul Dini & RB Silva
And that’s STILL not enough…
Richard Donner and Derek Hoffman collaborated on a story that’ll be presented in a screenplay format that we’ll run alongside storyboards by Matt Camp.
Brian Stelfreeze adds in a two-page spread showing the evolution of Superman throughout the decades, drawn in the art styles of some of Superman’s most well-known artists.
And of course there’s that great painted cover by David Finch, as well as variants by Alex Ross and Adam Hughes that we’ve already shown off here and here.
Whew.
ACTION COMICS #900 hits comic book stores on April 27th.

And a preview: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/04/26/the-ultimate-lex-vs-superman-showdown-in-action-comics-900/

 

[Mystirious]

I cannot wait to buy that issue this week it looks like Cornell is going to deliver an epic conclusion to this story

 

[Motown Marvel]

it'll be interesting to see how goyer writes superman.

 

[Mystirious]

Yep and looking forward to reading Paul Dini's story too

 

[hippie_hunter]

The review Newsarama posted really makes me excited for Action Comics #900

"That all said, it does take a little while to build up to that point. While the setup takes a little while to rev up, seeing the little touches that Cornell brings to Luthor — calling Superman “the ultimate paternal safety net,” telling the Man of Steel that he only “simulates” human emotion — these are the things that show how twisted Luthor’s view is, even as it shows he’s more petty than noble, more delusional than brilliant. But at the same time, it gives Cornell the opportunity to walk through memory lane, showing Superman’s history not by era, but by tragedy. It’s a hook we don’t see much of for Clark, but it leads to one of the surprise moments of the book — namely, seeing a true reckoning between these two enemies, a real understanding, and one that shows truly why Superman is the better man."

 

[BrianWilly]

"that all said, it does take a little while to build up to that point. While the setup takes a little while to rev up, seeing the little touches that cornell brings to luthor — calling superman “the ultimate paternal safety net,” telling the man of steel that he only “simulates” human emotion — these are the things that show how twisted luthor’s view is, even as it shows he’s more petty than noble, more delusional than brilliant. But at the same time, it gives cornell the opportunity to walk through memory lane, showing superman’s history not by era, but by tragedy. It’s a hook we don’t see much of for clark, but it leads to one of the surprise moments of the book — namely, seeing a true reckoning between these two enemies, a real understanding, and one that shows truly why superman is the better man."

my body is ready