The Official Superman Thread - Part 3

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Anubis said:
And then she got better.
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Way better. Vol. 5 of the book did start off ******. It was actually one of the worst books out at that time IMO but then it started to pick up after the first couple of years. Which is why I got back into it. By the time Sterling Gates arrived and left Kara had a lot more dimensions to her character and became one of the best in that DCU.

Just when she had finally found her place & writers all around the company were finally getting her (evidenced by her appearances in Miller's Batgirl and appearances throughout the DCU like the Superman/Batman ish with her and Damian) they decide to just reboot her again. I personally don't find anything really compelling about this Kara yet (though the power levels seem interesting) 3 issues in. Certainly nothing that makes me say "boy this sure was worth losing the old version of the character over".
 
Cain said:
Way better. Vol. 5 of the book did start off ******. It was actually one of the worst books out at that time IMO but then it started to pick up after the first couple of years. Which is why I got back into it. By the time Sterling Gates arrived and left Kara had a lot more dimensions to her character and became one of the best in that DCU.

Just when she had finally found her place & writers all around the company were finally getting her (evidenced by her appearances in Miller's Batgirl and appearances throughout the DCU like the Superman/Batman ish with her and Damian) they decide to just reboot her again. I personally don't find anything really compelling about this Kara yet (though the power levels seem interesting) 3 issues in. Certainly nothing that makes me say "boy this sure was worth losing the old version of the character over".
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While I agree her guest appearances were awesome, I wasn't disappointed to see her actual series go.

As good ad the writing was at certain points, I don't think editorially DC ever set it in a direction to really succeed on its own merits. Rather we went from issues with 50 million guest appearances, to the New Krypton thing, etc.

I like that this series (so far) is about Kara. Not about Reactron or Brainiac, or anyone else. It's about her introduction into the world...and so far it's being handled quite well.

Also remember, the guys who wrote both of her Superman/Batman appearances are writing this book. I'm sure her characterization will eventually shake out to be very similar to what it was before.
 
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Interesting. What's the story?
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The older Superman from the future uses the Lexcorp holographic projector to record a message for his younger self regarding a fight with Luthor that would eventually lead to Lex's reformation.
 
hopefulsuicide said:
What the hell is up with the cover of Superman #3? Why is there a light line of red circling his butt cheeks!

Seriously, I did a double take and wondered if I'd got a damaged copy... But it seems it was intentional!
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It was like that on the cover of Superman #1 as well. It's the seam lines/piping where leg holes of the trunks used to be, colored red.
 
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I thought, in Superman comics, they could show that the reason Clark and Lois don't date isn't because she dislikes him or anything, its because Clark is too busy being Superman. He uses Clark more as a cover, to get close to the Daily Planet, the heart of Metropolis, and the media, but after work he is Superman (and sometimes even during work). So they just don't really spend any time together at first.
This, I guess, would go into the Grant Morrison Action Comics stories after Clark starts working at the Daily Planet with Lois but before he becomes the Superman we all know.
Then, in Superman comics, he has sort of slowed down to allow himself to have a normal life. Lois has a boyfriend now though, but Clark has learned to allows himself to have a life as a mortal outside of being Superman.

Another idea I had came from reading George Perez's Superman #1, they are sort of worried about Lois and Clark being in the newspaper business because its sort of dying. So what do they do? Lois became an executive producer http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=372245#or something, which I love. But my idea would have her being like an Anderson Cooper journalist. She could still write for the Daily Planet even, but her new job would have her going out into the field and reporting from the front line to a camera. She would go to disaster zones, super battles, war zones, etc.
As for Clark? I think he wouldn't want to be on camera at all since he is Superman, just wouldn't fit anyway. But I think he could be the reporter behind the scenes who goes out and finds information for the others on camera, while Lois would want to do this all herself he would do it for any on screen story being reported that needed him.
I still like Clark becoming this type of research guy for the News. I would love to see this used in Perez's Superman, while Lois is an Producer of a News show Clark finds the stories and facts for them to report.
 
Yeah, that's kind of even more dumb than just having the trunks on the outside still.
 
Artistsean said:
I thought, in Superman comics, they could show that the reason Clark and Lois don't date isn't because she dislikes him or anything, its because Clark is too busy being Superman. He uses Clark more as a cover, to get close to the Daily Planet, the heart of Metropolis, and the media, but after work he is Superman (and sometimes even during work). So they just don't really spend any time together at first.
This, I guess, would go into the Grant Morrison Action Comics stories after Clark starts working at the Daily Planet with Lois but before he becomes the Superman we all know.
Then, in Superman comics, he has sort of slowed down to allow himself to have a normal life. Lois has a boyfriend now though, but Clark has learned to allows himself to have a life as a mortal outside of being Superman.

Another idea I had came from reading George Perez's Superman #1, they are sort of worried about Lois and Clark being in the newspaper business because its sort of dying. So what do they do? Lois became an executive producer or something, which I love. But my idea would have her being like an Anderson Cooper journalist. She could still write for the Daily Planet even, but her new job would have her going out into the field and reporting from the front line to a camera. She would go to disaster zones, super battles, war zones, etc.
As for Clark? I think he wouldn't want to be on camera at all since he is Superman, just wouldn't fit anyway. But I think he could be the reporter behind the scenes who goes out and finds information for the others on camera, while Lois would want to do this all herself he would do it for any on screen story being reported that needed him.
I still like Clark becoming this type of research guy for the News. I would love to see this used in Perez's Superman, while Lois is an Producer of a News show Clark finds the stories and facts for them to report.
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I see the reason for them not dating is because she see's Clark as a loner who won't let her in. I mean in reading Superman you can tell it seems like Lois cares about Clark but he just won't let her in which is why they aren't together. Or at least that's how I see it.
 
I'm just saying, with news papers not as popular and on the verge of going away, where do news paper reporters Lois and Clark go? Lois is now an executive producer of a tv news show. Clark is reluctant to leaves printed news. I'd like him to become a research and fact finder for the on air news reporters, sort of an investigative type.
 
Action Comics #4! Steel joins NuDU!

One of the most prominent and popular African-American super heroes, STEEL will be making his debut into the world of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 on December 7.

Equal parts Superman and folk legend John Henry (to whom the name of his alter ego, John Henry Irons, is an homage), Steel will appear in ACTION COMICS #4 – written by critically acclaimed, bestselling author Grant Morrison and illustrated by Rags Morales.

When Terminauts threaten to lay waste to Metropolis in search of Superman, it falls to Steel to come to the aid of the beleaguered hero – and the Man of Steel will sure need the help of this steel-drivin’ man. But their team-up isn’t all we’ll get from Steel in this issue. ACTION COMICS #4 also features a special backup story written by Sholly Fisch and drawn by Brad Walker. The eight-page story continues the action of ACTION, showcasing a heavy metal battle between Steel and Metal-zero.

Debuting in ACTION COMICS #4, Steel will return for ACTION COMICS #7, where he will star in another backup by Fisch and Walker.
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I am betting Steel plays a part in helping make Superman's new suit.
 
Exactly, if anything the new costume is in the Fortress of Solitude. It's all Kryptonian baby, not American.
 
Drz said:
Exactly, if anything the new costume is in the Fortress of Solitude. It's all Kryptonian baby, not American.
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What FOS look at JL the FOS during that time is the abandoned Daily Planet building. He doesn't get the FOS unitl after the events in JL. All I am saying is I think Steel helps him in making it.
 
Haha, that thing just turned a tank into its new head. Oh, Grant Morrison. :awesome:
 
Sholly Fisch talks about his Action Comics back-up stories
In #4, for example, we see the beginning of a fight between Steel and Metallo -- or more precisely, 'Metal-Zero' -- in Grant's lead story before the focus turns back to Superman. We see the rest of that fight in the backup, and along the way, we learn a little more about Steel, his motivation, and his personality.

After #4, the scene will shift to a pair of backup stories set years ago in Smallville. In #5, we'll get a glimpse of Jonathan and Martha Kent's lives before Kal-El arrived and they became "Ma" and "Pa." "Action Comics" #6 will show us Clark's last day in Smallville. Then #7 will jump forward again to Steel as we find out what's been happening on the ground while Superman's been busy, um... elsewhere. Finally, the backups will skip a month while Grant wraps up the current story arc in a full-length story in #8. And then, we'll start all over with a new bunch of backups in #9.

Oh, I should also mention that the art for the two Steel stories is being drawn by Brad Walker, and the two Smallville stories are by ChrisCross. Thanks to Matt and associate editor of tomorrow Wil Moss, I've seen the art for the first story and about half of the second -- and they both look great.

Well, the backup in #5 is about Ma and Pa Kent's fertility problems.

The first story really focuses on Steel, so Superman and Luthor only appear in one panel apiece. But, obviously, Clark has a much bigger presence in the "Last Day in Smallville" story in #6. The two Smallville stories will also feature the Kents, Lana Lang, and Pete Ross. And, as to who'll show up beyond that... we'll see...

Despite the super-strong guys repeatedly hitting each other in the head, the backup in #4 is equally about the kind of character-based stuff you're talking about. Yes, there are echoes of the folk hero John Henry, plus at least one real-life person whom I'm sure nobody out there will expect to see.

Hopefully, all of it will help to get across the idea that John Henry Irons isn't just a big, strong guy with a high-tech hammer. He's a brilliant scientist and engineer, a very cool guy, and at least as likely to think his way out of a fight as to punch his way out.
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Goddamnit, I love everything about Action Comics. It's consistently becoming more awesome. The best of the DCnU, in my opinion.
 
This issue was neat but the weakest of the book so far.
 
really? I thought it was the best, and that the book is really starting to get into gear
 
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