The Official Superman Thread - Part 4

[Scarecrow_King]

Many of us here who have read Aquaman comics for years for a start. Honestly this run just got the most publicity of any Aquaman volume since the early 90's thanks to the relaunch and that's why it's been a big seller and a draw for people like you who never read an Aquaman comic before. It is not the first time there's been a series with the character with both critical and fan acclaim before.

Hell there was another volume that had just that not even 7 years ago (were the Sub Diego arc Anubis mentioned happened). Of course it didn't even have half of the sales that the new volume has cause it didn't have a highly publicized relaunch marketing advantage like the new 52 has and too many people slept on it because they're ignorant about Aquaman. But it's not like Johns' volume is some type of game changer.

Was that the series that started with the water hand? That's the only part of it in trade, and it was pretty great.

I wish they'd print the rest of the trades, and since his current series is so popular, I'm sure they'd sell.

 

[Anubis]

Like I said when Johns' run first started and people were were all, I didn't know Aquaman could be so good, and I'm like, Aquaman's always been awesome. It's you mofo's failing in life that you couldn't see past the Superfriends to notice.

 

[Hush]

Was that the series that started with the water hand? That's the only part of it in trade, and it was pretty great.

I wish they'd print the rest of the trades, and since his current series is so popular, I'm sure they'd sell.

I would imagine they'll print the rest in due time, I've collected it mostly in single issues.

 

[CConn]

Many of us here who have read Aquaman comics for years for a start. Honestly this run just got the most publicity of any Aquaman volume since the early 90's thanks to the relaunch and that's why it's been a big seller and a draw for people like you who never read an Aquaman comic before. It is not the first time there's been a series with the character with both critical and fan acclaim before.

Hell there was another volume that had just that not even 7 years ago (were the Sub Diego arc Anubis mentioned happened). Of course it didn't even have half of the sales that the new volume has cause it didn't have a highly publicized relaunch marketing advantage like the new 52 has and too many people slept on it because they're ignorant about Aquaman. But it's not like Johns' volume is some type of game changer.

Exactly.

Aquaman has been an awesome character for years, and this current run is nowhere near as good as PAD's or Pfeifer/Arcudi's runs.

All these people who think Aquaman suddenly became good need to save the money they would've spent on this current, wholly mediocre series, and instead buy some back issues of when Aquaman actually was an all out badass.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I own the entire PAD series, I like it, but I find it to be a tad bit overrated. I own every issue of Aquaman from the second series up. I'm currently working on the first series, but that costs a bit more money so I have to work on it here and there. I'm more of a fan of the Pfeifer Sub Diego run, and I've been liking Johns' run quite a bit as well. Although I think the star of that series is more of Reis' awesome art, I can't imagine it being as good without Reis.

 

[CConn]

Oh, I do agree the Sub Diego stuff is definitely the best Aquaman ever.

But even though I'm not a big fan of Namor-esque Aquaman, I still found him better characterized than Johns' version.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I mean who thought Aquaman could be so badass.

Aquaman has always been badass you jerk . You have no idea how hard the years have been for people like me

 

[hippie_hunter]

Oh, I do agree the Sub Diego stuff is definitely the best Aquaman ever.

But even though I'm not a big fan of Namor-esque Aquaman, I still found him better characterized than Johns' version.

I like Johns' characterization of Aquaman far more than PAD's. I like a lot of what PAD did such as his development of Garth, the introduction of Dolphin, the use of Atlantis and whatnot, but I just wasn't all that fond of his characterization for Orin and Mera. And I'm not a big fan of Aquaman being an Atlantean/homo-magi hybrid, I prefer the Atlantean/human hybrid that Johns brought back much better as well.

 

[Anubis]

About 3X worse than Thor fans up until the movie came out.

 

[Hush]

Nuba what are you talking about?

 

[Anubis]

I was referring to this.

Aquaman has always been badass you jerk . You have no idea how hard the years have been for people like me

Meaning it was about 3 X worse for an Aquaman fan as it was for a Thor fan, who also didn't get much respect as a character until recently.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Johns' run may not be as great as Pfeifer's, but considering that now people are finally giving him recognition, I'll take what I can get. Plus, the book is one of my favorites of the New 52.

 

[Hush]

It's one of the better ones of the New 52, I mainly enjoy it because I just love reading about Aquaman but I could really do for a new writer after the next Arc. Plus its friggin gorgeous.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I liked it when Peter David got into the politics and backstory of Atlantis more than anything else. He showed Aquaman as a king better than most. I kind of wish he could've just done an Atlantis Chronicles ongoing. Excellent series.

The Sub Diego stuff is the best for Aquaman as a superhero, though. He built up a nice supporting cast with Officer Malrey and Lorena and Geist.

 

[CConn]

The characterization was perfect too; a mixture of brashness and a more intelligent and sophisticated hero.

 

[sethypants]

Aquaman has always been badass you jerk . You have no idea how hard the years have been for people like me

LOL no, I never cared for Badass Aquaman. The Aquaman I liked was always

I never cared for

Aquaman is already cool, there is no need to make him look like an angry pirate. I mean look at that hook and scowl.

John's Aquaman was just so perfectly characterized. He isn't overly edgy and he still has this comical/funny/dark feeling about him. Together with all the mythologies and all. And yes I also agree that Ivan Reis has been doing great work on Aquaman and its his beautiful drawing that is part of the appeal for the book. I subscribe to the notion that people just want to see beautiful things and people. Ivan Reis does exactly that

 

[Hush]

Most if what we are talking about is post hook Aquaman so your argument again doesn't make sense or hold any weight.

 

[sethypants]

Most if what we are talking about is post hook Aquaman so your argument again doesn't make sense or hold any weight.

The last time he had this hook was Aquaman V5 with PAD which was what most people are talking about. So your counter argument doesn't make sense or hold any weight.
The only other version was the V6 Waterbearer.

 

[Dangerman]

SO THAT SUPERMAN HUH!!!!!!

 

[Hush]

The last time he had this hook was Aquaman V5 with PAD which was what most people are talking about. So your counter argument doesn't make sense or hold any weight.
The only other version was the V6 Waterbearer.

MOST, not ALL, of what a lot of our fellow posters are referring to is Subdiego and various other stories at that time when he had the hand. Furthermore a few writers knew how to make Aquaman awesome with the Hook and you can find several of the best JLA stories feature him with the Hook so your statement of, "there is no need to make him look like an angry pirate. I mean look at that hook and scowl.",makes you look even more uneducated about the character.


As for Superman, now that Waid is doing a Marvel book who would you like to replace Morrison?

 

[Anubis]

Eh, he's one of those "Nothing mattered before I started reading s**t" kinda guys. God, Kuro was right.

 

[CConn]

Vs.

End of argument.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

As for Superman, now that Waid is doing a Marvel book who would you like to replace Morrison?

How jawsome would it be if Morrison revealed that while he is leaving Action Comics, it is to move over to the main Superman comic?

 

[Mystirious]

Aquaman has always been badass you jerk . You have no idea how hard the years have been for people like me

I'mma give you a hug

 

[sethypants]

MOST, not ALL, of what a lot of our fellow posters are referring to is Subdiego and various other stories at that time when he had the hand. Furthermore a few writers knew how to make Aquaman awesome with the Hook and you can find several of the best JLA stories feature him with the Hook so your statement of, "there is no need to make him look like an angry pirate. I mean look at that hook and scowl.",makes you look even more uneducated about the character.


As for Superman, now that Waid is doing a Marvel book who would you like to replace Morrison?

You probably have problems understanding. I don't blame you for that.

Furthermore a few writers knew how to make Aquaman awesome with the Hook and you can find several of the best JLA stories feature him with the Hook so your statement of, "there is no need to make him look like an angry pirate. I mean look at that hook and scowl."

I said I never cared for this version of Aquaman. I never like the long hair, the hook and the "do not pollute the seas or I will invade you surface dwellers attitude".
Sure, there can be stories of him with the hook that is good, but I do not fancy them. Who are you to tell me what I can care and do not care for.
The pre-flashpoint Aquaman stories I liked best was death of a prince. I also did not particularly care for 2003 Aquaman issue. He went from this

to

to

to

All within the span of 50 issues.
Well written or not, I did not like that most of the adventures are under water, and that he has always been written and drawn as an angry old man. The only time I ever liked Aquaman was Brightest Day, New 52 and BATB. And that is my prerogative what stories I choose to like and do not like.