The Official Thor thread

[Cdnmouse]

I thought only Thor, Odin, Valkyrie, the Executioner, and Balder had weapons of choice, really. Thor had Mjolnir, Odin had Gungnir, Valkyrie had Dragonfang, the Executioner had the Bloodaxe, and Balder had the Sword of Frey (at least during Simonson's run, although everyone's probably forgotten that by now). Hogun had that spiked mace, but I don't think it was a special weapon in any way. A crapload of Asgardians all used swords too, so it's not even like each of them had a unique type of weapon. Although I guess JMS could easily just make up magic weapons and say the Asgardians had them forever but just never really talked much about them. Which I would surprisingly be fine with. I've always thought Asgard could use more magical weapons.

I can see JMS going into the real Norse Legends where there are alot of gods that have a specific weapon they use. I can't really think of any at the moment but I will check out some of my texts and sagas and find some examples for everyone besides the ones we know. And I really hope Thor kicks Tony's ass. He totally deserves it.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I can see JMS going into the real Norse Legends where there are alot of gods that have a specific weapon they use. I can't really think of any at the moment but I will check out some of my texts and sagas and find some examples for everyone besides the ones we know. And I really hope Thor kicks Tony's ass. He totally deserves it.

For?

 

[3dman27]

I can see JMS going into the real Norse Legends where there are alot of gods that have a specific weapon they use. I can't really think of any at the moment but I will check out some of my texts and sagas and find some examples for everyone besides the ones we know. And I really hope Thor kicks Tony's ass. He totally deserves it.

amen to that and to think iron man was one of the first marvel comics i started reading

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Only after getting his ass kicked by them for thirty minutes or so by the rushed and obviously incompleted armor.

Yeah, his ass definitely looked kick, what with his barely being bruised. The armor got pwned, plain and simple. Magic beats technology once again.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

lol Dude, matched up strength, I remember seeing some blood, and THEN Thor took apart an arm, which basically spelled the end.

Even Tony's repulsors drove King Thor back.

For incompleted armor with a small power source, it packed a severe punch.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Sure, it packed a punch. Just not enough to be any real match for King Thor, much like neither of Tony's Hulkbuster armors were any match for the Hulk.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Actually, the Thorbuster faired better than the Hulkbusters.


But like I said, that armor was absolutely rushed, incomplete, and the power supply was small.

 

[AndThePickles]

Finally had a chance to read the first issue....really enjoyed it. Good opener for the new series

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, the Thorbuster faired better than the Hulkbusters.


But like I said, that armor was absolutely rushed, incomplete, and the power supply was small.

Better than the Hulkbuster (likely because of his stolen Asgardian power source), sure; but I still fail to see how it did anything even close to well against Thor. Iron Man got in a couple of good hits that took Thor off balance, and then Thor stopped taking it easy on Tony and pretty much dominated the fight until Cap broke the two of them up. It was pure ownage except for those first few hits, as evidenced by the fact that when Cap did break them up, Tony's armor was utterly demolished while Thor's armor was torn off but he himself was still perfectly fine except for a few bruises. All Iron Man would've been able to do at that point is run away or be killed with relative ease.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Read it again.

 

[Mr. Green]

I didn't particularly like it back then, either, but the way I read Thor #1, this seems like it could be different. When Ellis put the gods in human form, he kept them in human form, even after they remembered who they were. JMS seems to be implying here that the gods may be stuck in human form and not remember who they are, like Thor when he was stuck as Don Blake. So long as they return to their fully divine forms after Thor finds them, I'm cool with it.

Yeah, that does sound a lot cooler.

See, before Thor died I wouldn't have doubted that in the least. Now, however, it seems like Thor is calmer and more philosophical than the short-tempered badass he used to be.

But that would suck ass and completely defeat the purpose of Thor. Thor is meant to be a ultra-powerful badass and if he isn't, the writer is doing something wrong.

And does anybody else want to see Thor and Sentry try to kill eachother?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Given the alleged power levels of the Sentry? No. It would end in bad writing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dude, Gluey, you're gonna have to accept that the Sentry is staying down in the power ranks among guys like Thor and the Hulk. His Galactus-fighting status seems to be pretty well gone for good. My only hope now is that someone cuts his hair so that we can avoid any jokes from the fact that both he and Thor are supposed to be some of the most powerful guys ever and they both have long, flowing, golden locks.

Read it again.

I've read it several times. I exaggerated a little up there, but the fact remains that when Cap blew the whistle, Thor himself was relatively unscathed despite his armor being broken while Iron Man was down to a weaker, older secondary suit of armor. Thor was even strong enough after their fight was over to dent Cap's shield, which is regarded as basically the most durable substance ever. The Thorbuster armor failed in its task because Thor was still in better shape than Tony by the end of the fight.

Also, I don't think the Thorbuster armor was all that incomplete. When Thor intervened in Slokovia, Iron Man had that armor ready and waiting. He most likely started building it right after Thor gave him a sample of the Asgardian power source to study and, at most, it was merely untested by the time Slokovia rolled around. He might've made it better but, honestly, the way Thor tore through it, I doubt any amount of enhancement would've given it a real shot at standing up to King Thor.

 

[necross20]

Maybe that Godblast thing that Thor can do would help even a fight between him and the Sentry (although to be fair i've never seen Thor use it so I wouldn't know if it actually works)

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Sentry has to stop zoning out first!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, the Sentry at his peak was said to hold his own against Galactus and Thor's god blast has scared a hungry Galactus away, so it'd place him at least in the same ballpark as the Sentry. Provided that he could hit the Sentry with it, since Thor only gets to use it once before it drains some of the life out of him and he needs to recover.

Of course, like I said, the Sentry's not as powerful as he used to be. He's probably only a little more powerful than classic Thor at this point.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I wish they'd come out and say that he's not as powerful. Right now, he just seems so distracted.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Idk how he hasn't killed Ultron yet

 

[fifthfiend]

Dude, Gluey, you're gonna have to accept that the Sentry is staying down in the power ranks among guys like Thor and the Hulk. His Galactus-fighting status seems to be pretty well gone for good. My only hope now is that someone cuts his hair so that we can avoid any jokes from the fact that both he and Thor are supposed to be some of the most powerful guys ever and they both have long, flowing, golden locks.

I thought Sentry's diminished power output was justified in-story as a self-imposed limitation, due to if he gets too out of hand then the Void will come out and eat the human race again, or some such thing?

I mean I don't really know for sure, this is just what I've gleaned from other people's discussions on the subject.

On a separate note: Do we know / have any particular good guess whether Thor retains any of his King Thor / Rune Thor powers?

 

[necross20]

How I managed to miss Thor use his God blast is beyond me. Anyone remember the comic he uses it in? Think i'd like to see it in action.
Hmm, Galactus and the Sentry scrapping, i'd enjoy that provided the big G kicks Golden boys @$$

 

[Colossal Spoons]

My only hope now is that someone cuts his hair so that we can avoid any jokes from the fact that both he and Thor are supposed to be some of the most powerful guys ever and they both have long, flowing, golden locks.

Short haired Sentry is pretty cool

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought Sentry's diminished power output was justified in-story as a self-imposed limitation, due to if he gets too out of hand then the Void will come out and eat the human race again, or some such thing?

I mean I don't really know for sure, this is just what I've gleaned from other people's discussions on the subject.

On a separate note: Do we know / have any particular good guess whether Thor retains any of his King Thor / Rune Thor powers?

Well, there's a preview in the Thor NEWS thread that shows Thor basically pulling a whole new Asgard out of a thunderstorm in issue #2, which implies to me that he's got some Odinpower/rune mojo left over. As far as I know, neither Thor nor Mjolnir could pull giant floating landmasses out of nothing with their classic powers (unless they were teleporting Asgard in, which doesn't make sense because 1) it looks totally different and 2) the whole Asgard dimension was physically destroyed in "Ragnarok").

As for the Sentry's power level, it's supposed to depend on his self-confidence or something. The idea that the more powerful he gets, the more powerful the Void gets is an implied limit on his power, since I don't think Rob would want to will himself to such a high power level that no one could take his evil counterpart down if push came to shove again.

 

[necross20]

As for the Sentry's power level, it's supposed to depend on his self-confidence or something. The idea that the more powerful he gets, the more powerful the Void gets is an implied limit on his power, since I don't think Rob would want to will himself to such a high power level that no one could take his evil counterpart down if push came to shove again.

Isn't that sorta like the Gladiator's power? Except without the evil other-half of course.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. It's kind of dumb, but it does explain why the Sentry's less powerful. In Gladiator's case, it's just dumb.

 

[necross20]

Having a power that relied on your own self confidence would make most egotists unstoppable, like say Doom for instance or Namor.