The Official Thor thread

[Colossal Spoons]

Well all it takes is a few mistakes to make to doubt yourself. Everybody doubts themselves sometimes, even Doom and Namor.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Dude, Gluey, you're gonna have to accept that the Sentry is staying down in the power ranks among guys like Thor and the Hulk. His Galactus-fighting status seems to be pretty well gone for good. My only hope now is that someone cuts his hair so that we can avoid any jokes from the fact that both he and Thor are supposed to be some of the most powerful guys ever and they both have long, flowing, golden locks.

Eh, it's being explained away. I just don't wanna see Sentry break down like a b***h over being told something like, "You're the Void."

 

[Colossal Spoons]

No, he'll just have another staring contest like he did with Blackbolt in Silent War :

 

[necross20]

I'll agree with you on Namor. Doom, hmm im gonna say he's waaaay too egotistical to even consider the possibility of having low self confidence which would probably eliminate any thoughts of failure on his part.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, it's being explained away. I just don't wanna see Sentry break down like a b***h over being told something like, "You're the Void."

He already knows, so I think you're safe there. Given how the likes of Dr. Strange and Black Bolt are now being made to look like *****es without any explanation, you should just be glad that the Sentry even got that much.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I thought Sentry's diminished power output was justified in-story as a self-imposed limitation, due to if he gets too out of hand then the Void will come out and eat the human race again, or some such thing?

I mean I don't really know for sure, this is just what I've gleaned from other people's discussions on the subject.

On a separate note: Do we know / have any particular good guess whether Thor retains any of his King Thor / Rune Thor powers?

Well, there's a preview in the Thor NEWS thread that shows Thor basically pulling a whole new Asgard out of a thunderstorm in issue #2, which implies to me that he's got some Odinpower/rune mojo left over. As far as I know, neither Thor nor Mjolnir could pull giant floating landmasses out of nothing with their classic powers (unless they were teleporting Asgard in, which doesn't make sense because 1) it looks totally different and 2) the whole Asgard dimension was physically destroyed in "Ragnarok").

As for the Sentry's power level, it's supposed to depend on his self-confidence or something. The idea that the more powerful he gets, the more powerful the Void gets is an implied limit on his power, since I don't think Rob would want to will himself to such a high power level that no one could take his evil counterpart down if push came to shove again.

Both true. Somewhat on his self confidence to CONTAIN the Void himself. The more power he expends, the less in control he is, the less in control he is, the more likely the Void is going to come out, and after that, the more powerful he ramps himself to, the Void follows quickly.

That's why in the first mini, with zero restraints, the Void was just playfully ripping apart entire countries from the sky.

The Sentry doesn't access his higher level of powers for that very reason. Like the Thor/Iron Man fight. Thor COULD'VE ended it pretty much if he wanted, but in doing so, would probably kill Tony. Sentry stays low to keep the Void at bay.

 

[necross20]

Strange was always someone I found funny, not sure why, I think it's his arrogance. When is he gonna fight the Hulk? I do hope he hurts the green pile of turd, at least a little.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

He already knows, so I think you're safe there. Given how the likes of Dr. Strange and Black Bolt are now being made to look like *****es without any explanation, you should just be glad that the Sentry even got that much.

Strange has been upgraded back to "Dues ex machina" status. o.o

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I'll agree with you on Namor. Doom, hmm im gonna say he's waaaay too egotistical to even consider the possibility of having low self confidence which would probably eliminate any thoughts of failure on his part.

Just get him in a room with Reed and tell them to build something. Reed'll do it 1 second faster than Victor

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Strange was always someone I found funny, not sure why, I think it's his arrogance. When is he gonna fight the Hulk? I do hope he hurts the green pile of turd, at least a little.

Don't hold your breath. If you die, you'll stink up the place.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Strange was always someone I found funny, not sure why, I think it's his arrogance. When is he gonna fight the Hulk? I do hope he hurts the green pile of turd, at least a little.

Nope, it's his little mustache. Everyone finds Strange funny for that.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

And the pajama pants.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Strange has been upgraded back to "Dues ex machina" status. o.o

How so? He just got stabbed

 

[TheCorpulent1]

And the pajama pants.

Marcos Martin did away with the onesies! Why couldn't Yu have followed suit?

Strange has been upgraded back to "Dues ex machina" status. o.o

Except when he apparently forgets to put up the mystical shields he always used to have on and gets stabbed through the chest by a plain old sword.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Might've been Hitler's Katana.

 

[necross20]

Don't hold your breath. If you die, you'll stink up the place.

The guy did fight a mystical war for 5 thousand years, the least he can do is put up a mean fight with the Hulk. I can see me getting annoyed when I see this particular fight

Nope, it's his little mustache. Everyone finds Strange funny for that.

Ah yes, the 60's porn star stache t:

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Might've been Hitler's Katana.

Ugh. Enchanted guns FTL!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The guy did fight a mystical war for 5 thousand years, the least he can do is put up a mean fight with the Hulk. I can see me getting annoyed when I see this particular fight



Ah yes, the 60's porn star stache t:

By all means, Blackagar should've flattened Hulk, and he didn't even seem to hurt Hulk. I'm assuming they'll carry the trend, despite the lack of relation of powers.

 

[necross20]

By all means, Blackagar should've flattened Hulk, and he didn't even seem to hurt Hulk. I'm assuming they'll carry the trend, despite the lack of relation of powers.

Hmm, I had wondered why he didn't hurt the Hulk, but seeing as this is the Hulks story they can't have him lose, especially his first fight. One of them had better beat him, and I just hope it's not Stark.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Unless Stark wants a round two solo, it isn't happening.

But Stark or Richards would probably make the most sense, for scientific means.

 

[necross20]

Isn't Reed busy on Titan at the moment? Im just really hoping it's Strange who hands the Hulk his fat green @$$

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Doubtul, since he's asking for the aid of the Initiative. Strange probably won't be capable of doing it solo. In fact, I doubt any of them are.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm, I had wondered why he didn't hurt the Hulk, but seeing as this is the Hulks story they can't have him lose, especially his first fight. One of them had better beat him, and I just hope it's not Stark.

The reason they give for the Hulk being able to stand up to Black Bolt is that he is, as of WWH, angrier than he has ever been. That's straight from Greg Pak, the writer of the whole event since Planet Hulk. Also, the warp core explosion somehow interacted with the Hulk's physiology to make him even stronger than usual to begin with. That's also from Pak. So he's got a higher base strength than his usual class 90-100, plus he's angrier than ever. I think those two factors make it perfectly reasonable for the Hulk to be kicking as much ass as he is.

Granted, that explanation will probably fall flat when it comes to Strange, since no amount of physical power should really be a problem for Strange. But Pak's done well enough so far that I'm optimistic he'll make the Hulk/Strange fight at least kind of believable.

 

[necross20]

Given Strange's ability to change location through various spells, he could, technically, teleport himself and Hulk to a different plane of existence where his own power is amplified exponentially, a place where the normal laws of physics etc do not apply. Like, for example, that place where Doom took Magneto is House of M.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Like we said, while it's not the same as Black Bolt's direct physical power, somehow, Strange probably won't win.