The Official Thread For: Harry Potter & The Order Of The Phoenix

[sithgoblin]

As bad as Harry's hair was in the last one, I think they went a bit too extreme with his hair cut in this.

 

[Dr. Fate]

As bad as Harry's hair was in the last one, I think they went a bit too extreme with his hair cut in this.

SHouldn't Harry's hair be somewhat mildly long in order to get that wildly unkept look he's so often described as having in the books?

 

[War Party]

It's just hair.

 

[Backdrifter]

I think OOtP will be on par with PoA as the best film in the series...atleast up to this point. The director seems have a wonderful visual style going for him and the actors are draping him with lavish praise about he well he directs actors. Good signs people, very good signs.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I think PoA is the best film visually, in some of the elements of the storytelling were fantastic. GoF settled down on both visuals and story until the climax,and all stuff involving Voldemort etc

 

[Socrates]

Umbridge is not quite as I imagined her, but, regardless, she looks great. And I love the shot of Harry in the alleyway.

 

[Matt]

I think OOtP will be on par with PoA as the best film in the series...atleast up to this point. The director seems have a wonderful visual style going for him and the actors are draping him with lavish praise about he well he directs actors. Good signs people, very good signs.

I go against popular belief, but I do not consider PoA to be the best film of the series...well, thats a lie. It is the best FILM of the series, but it is the worst ADAPTATION of the series. Cuaron made some bad choices, the ending was horribly done. It was convulted, confusing, and never gave a proper explanation (Just like GOF). Furthermore, they cut important elements of the overall plot of the series in favor of what? Kids making animal noises? A five minute ride on the Knight Bus? I respect what Cuaron did visually, but his story telling left something to be desired in my eyes.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Okay...but Cuaron DIDN'T WRITE THE SCREENPLAY.

B|tch to Steve Kloves. Plus: They always run the movie and the desicions made by Jo Rowling and obviously she approved.

You can't argue with the facts.

 

[Matt]

Okay...but Cuaron DIDN'T WRITE THE SCREENPLAY.

B|tch to Steve Kloves. Plus: They always run the movie and the desicions made by Jo Rowling and obviously she approved.

You can't argue with the facts.

First of all, don't get so defensive.

Second, those aren't facts.

Third, Jo Rowling has casting approval, not script. She has worked on the script with Kloves, but he has never been forced to do what she says.

Fourth, Kloves original script for all the movies involve all of the elements of the book, cuts are made during pre-production, by the director.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Sorry about being defensive...discussing deep stuff with my friends online.

Anyways, I guess...but the film worked I thought.

What was confusing about it?!

 

[Substance D]

Sorry about being defensive...discussing deep stuff with my friends online.

Anyways, I guess...but the film worked I thought.

What was confusing about it?!

nothing, they're just fans who can't get over the movies being different from the books. poa wasn't confusing, but goblet was. wtf happened with voldemort and harry's wands at the end? dumbledore mutters something, but fails to give an explanation where one is desperately needed. it was like a big **** you to the non-book reading audience.

 

[Knives122]

it was this:

Priori Incantatem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(Harry_Potter)#Priori_Incantatem

 

[OtepApe]

I go against popular belief, but I do not consider PoA to be the best film of the series...well, thats a lie. It is the best FILM of the series, but it is the worst ADAPTATION of the series. Cuaron made some bad choices, the ending was horribly done. It was convulted, confusing, and never gave a proper explanation (Just like GOF). Furthermore, they cut important elements of the overall plot of the series in favor of what? Kids making animal noises? A five minute ride on the Knight Bus? I respect what Cuaron did visually, but his story telling left something to be desired in my eyes.

I do agree that POA wasn't adapted very well, but I have a bigger problem with how GOF was adapted. There was a lot of things missing from GOF that really should have been in there. Some not so important, but some which I feel are vital to future books. Priori Incantatem especially.

I think POA is the best because of the fantastic visuals, the way it was shot, it was a stunning movie in what a fantasy movie should be.

I have accepted that practially all HP movies will stray quite far from the books from now. OOTP=-Voldemort as Kings Cross? But as long as I have the books, the movies are light entertainment.

 

[Matt]

Sorry about being defensive...discussing deep stuff with my friends online.

Anyways, I guess...but the film worked I thought.

What was confusing about it?!

Well, because they left out the entire Marauder's subplot, they never really gave a good explanation why James, Sirius, and Peter were animagi. They just said that they were. I felt the entire chapter that would've been "Cat, Rat, and Dog" was rushed through in the movie and that left it confusing.

But I agree, what they did with Priori Incantem was horrible.

 

[Matt]

I do agree that POA wasn't adapted very well, but I have a bigger problem with how GOF was adapted. There was a lot of things missing from GOF that really should have been in there. Some not so important, but some which I feel are vital to future books. Priori Incantatem especially.

I agree, they should NOT have left out the final scene in the hospital wing (which lays down the ground work for the last three books), or Bill Weasley. Especially being as it is looking like his marriage to Fleur will be the starting point of book and therefore movie 7. I mean, what will they say?

Ron: "Oh yeah Harry, I have an older brother who I never bothered mentioning, and he is marrying that French chick...how about that?"

I think POA is the best because of the fantastic visuals, the way it was shot, it was a stunning movie in what a fantasy movie should be.

I agree there.

I have accepted that practially all HP movies will stray quite far from the books from now. OOTP=-Voldemort as Kings Cross? But as long as I have the books, the movies are light entertainment.

Voldemort at Kings Cross? Please tell me you are joking

 

[Dr. Fate]

I wonder what Peter O'Toole would have been like as Dumbledore...

 

[OtepApe]

Voldemort at Kings Cross? Please tell me you are joking

The following is a paragraph from a set report during the Kings Cross filming.

Ext. Platform Nine and Three Quarters
Harry walks to Hogwarts Express; he sees Voldemort.
This is clearly a departure from the book, in which the nastiest person Harry sees at King's Cross is Lucius Malfoy. Although Ralph Fiennes wasn't on set, his double was, indicating that although we don't get a remarkably clear view of Voldemort in the scene, he is still there in the flesh rather than just a disturbing vision of Harry's.

The whole thing is posted on page 10 by Mr Lex Luthor.

I was shocked and dumbfounded by this piece of news. A pointless diviation from the book. I see no purpose for this inclusion.

I wonder what Peter O'Toole would have been like as Dumbledore...

I would imagine he would have brought a warmth to the role, the wisdom of Dumbledore but the eccentricities of the chracter as well. Basically everything Gambon has left out of the role.

 

[Matt]

The following is a paragraph from a set report during the Kings Cross filming.



The whole thing is posted on page 10 by Mr Lex Luthor.

I was shocked and dumbfounded by this piece of news. A pointless diviation from the book. I see no purpose for this inclusion.

That makes me die a little on the inside

I would imagine he would have brought a warmth to the role, the wisdom of Dumbledore but the eccentricities of the chracter as well. Basically everything Gambon has left out of the role.

Exactly, Peter O'Toole would've brought the best qualities of both Harris and Gambon, but none of their faults. He would've been the perfect Dumbledore.

Gambon comes off as a creepy, grumpy old man.

 

[Socrates]

Matt, you are so evil there is nothing on the inside of you that can possibly die.

 

[OtepApe]

That makes me die a little on the inside

That's how I felt when I first read it. I just don't understand it. What possible props does this bring?

Exactly, Peter O'Toole would've brought the best qualities of both Harris and Gambon, but none of their faults. He would've been the perfect Dumbledore.

Gambon comes off as a creepy, grumpy old man.

Harris was a fantastic DD, just what I pictured in my head reading the books. But O'Toole would have been inspired casting, that as you say, wouldn't have been creepy or grumpy.

 

[Matt]

That's how I felt when I first read it. I just don't understand it. What possible props does this bring?



Harris was a fantastic DD, just what I pictured in my head reading the books. But O'Toole would have been inspired casting, that as you say, wouldn't have been creepy or grumpy.

Harris looked like he was sick when he filmed...which he obviously was...God rest his soul. Dumbledore was always described as giving off a feeling of youth and energy despite his age. That is one thing I will give Gambon.

 

[Swordmaster]

I will say this. Gambon was pretty decent in POA, for the little time he was in it. He did have a little eccentricity in him.

 

[Dr. Fate]

That's how I felt when I first read it. I just don't understand it. What possible props does this bring?

None whatsoever.

Harris was a fantastic DD, just what I pictured in my head reading the books. But O'Toole would have been inspired casting, that as you say, wouldn't have been creepy or grumpy.

I don't hate Gambon, but I would have liked to have seen Peter O'Toole as Dumbledore.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

edit.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Ext. Platform Nine and Three Quarters
Harry walks to Hogwarts Express; he sees Voldemort.
This is clearly a departure from the book, in which the nastiest person Harry sees at King's Cross is Lucius Malfoy. Although Ralph Fiennes wasn't on set, his double was, indicating that although we don't get a remarkably clear view of Voldemort in the scene, he is still there in the flesh rather than just a disturbing vision of Harry's.

Not clear at all actually. Harry probably just thinks he sees Voldemort at the station. He looks around, sees Voldemort in the crowd, closes his eyes, opens them and he's gone. That kinda thing.