The Official TIH Critic's Review Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Forget where I read it (probably in the Box Office Thread as that would be the most logical place) fan reception is up to 85% as compared to Ang's 40+% ... looks like a good sign for it's success, seeing as it's only other action movie competition is ... Wanted, which is rated R.

Still never know what will happen and I don't know how to predict anything in the B.O.

Boxoffice is always tricky.

 

[Dangerous]

delete.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

All I know is that I'm not going to agree with critics on everything. I do believe that critics have there place and are often correct in their assessments but other times I disagree.

I don't necessarily disagree with the problems that the bad reviews bring up but It didn't ruin the film for me. The most important thing for me is that I dig a film and I dug this film. Big boxoffice or no.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

A lot of people seem disappointed in the CGI direction. I think some of the flack is people feeling like it wasn't enough of a redesign for a new franchise. Stylisticly I don't know what other way they could go to portray but I'm sure for the budget they had, and the kind of scope they wanted to make it turned out the way it should have.

 

[The Shape]

Why? It was pretty unanimous among the major critics that TIH was worth seeing. By major critics, I mean critics who write for the top national newspapers and magazines. According to Yahoo, it has a critics average of B- while Iron Man got B+. Pretty good opinions by the critics, I think.

B- basically means...average at best. Many people here have said this film has gotten amazing reviews, when many of the reviews have essentially said (and I'm obviously paraphrasing here), "TIH is basically a stripped down version of the 2003 film with much more action and much less substance. In other words, a decent action movie."

The best thing is that it hasn't necessarily gotten a negative response from most critics.

 

[ant3ros]

B- basically means...average at best. Many people here have said this film has gotten amazing reviews, when many of the reviews have essentially said (and I'm obviously paraphrasing here), "TIH is basically a stripped down version of the 2003 film with much more action and much less substance. In other words, a decent action movie."

The best thing is that it hasn't necessarily gotten a negative response from most critics.

How does B- basically mean average? C means average. B- isn't amazing, but it's not horrible either, and it's better than average. The script may be simpler than Ang's, but at least many critics agree that it's a relatively solid movie.

 

[The Shape]

How does B- basically mean average? C means average. B- isn't amazing, but it's not horrible either, and it's better than average. The script may be simpler than Ang's, but at least many critics agree that it's a relatively solid movie.

The way I see it, A equates to really good, B is average, C is satisfactory, D sucks, and F is an abomination. To me, B- is pretty average. That's not a bad thing, though.

 

[Chewy]

The way I see it, A equates to really good, B is average, C is satisfactory, D sucks, and F is an abomination. To me, B- is pretty average. That's not a bad thing, though.

Batman Begins: B+
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808490910/info

Iron Man: B+
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411893/info

X-Men 2: B
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807432594/info


I don't know where you came up with that measuring stick, but I think B is above average.

 

[The Shape]

Batman Begins: B+
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808490910/info

Iron Man: B+
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411893/info

X-Men 2: B
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1807432594/info


I don't know where you came up with that measuring stick, but I think B is above average.

Does a B grade average for a student mean above average? No, it's pretty average. Solid, but not as good as it could be. This changes a little when grading movies because people's opinions are subjective. Therefore, there will be a certain amount of people that rate the movie poorly, versus those that give positive feedback. So if you look at it this way, this Yahoo grading system basically means that there are more people that liked TIH than disliked it, which is good. However, the reactions to BB, IM, and X2 are each more positive than TIH.

It also has a critic's average of B- from Entertainment Weekly.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

The way I see A,B,C,D,and F when it comes to grading movies is like the following:

A=Very good

B=Good

C=Alright

D=Bad

F=Very bad

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

F = Fail

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Does a B grade average for a student mean above average? No, it's pretty average.

Google search brought this from a Dallas comm college:


A-Excellent
B-Good
C-Average
D-Poor
E*Effort
F-Failing
I-Incomplete
WX-Progress;W-Withdrawn

 

[Clark Kent]

I can't believe people are arguing over grading systems.

A lot of people seem disappointed in the CGI direction.

I'm hugely disappointed. I was expecting a lot more five years after the 2003 CGI, which I thought was mostly superb. Instead, the Hulk just looks like a cartoon to me.

 

[Showtime]

Since when is B or B- mean pretty average? What school did you go to The Shape, they were the toughest graders this side of Mars.

 

[The Shape]

Since when is B or B- mean pretty average? What school did you go to The Shape, they were the toughest graders this side Mars.

Sorry, guys. Maybe I was grading it a little harshly. I never realized how many students strived for B-'s.

 

[Showtime]

Sorry, guys. Maybe I was grading it a little harshly. I never realized how many students strived for B-'s.

It has nothing to do with striving for B-'s it has to do with the grading system, how could a B- be "average at best" when alphabetical grading systems all dictate C as average?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Basically, Marvel ran too far in the opposite direction. They made a fanboy Hulk movie that is damn good but doesn't reach out to anyone other than people that like action movies or Hulk.

Batman Begins didn't run in the opposite direction of Batman and Robin. It made a movie closer to Burton's version in terms of Batman but with a stronger emotional core.

Also, being one of the most popular heroes on Earth, people were more willing to give it a second chance, imo.

 

[co2]

Basically, Marvel ran too far in the opposite direction. They made a fanboy Hulk movie that is damn good but doesn't reach out to anyone other than people that like action movies or Hulk.

Batman Begins didn't run in the opposite direction of Batman and Robin. It made a movie closer to Burton's version in terms of Batman but with a stronger emotional core.

Also, being one of the most popular heroes on Earth, people were more willing to give it a second chance, imo.

Agreed. Maybe the an extended cut on DVD will provide a better balance.

 

[Clark Kent]

Maybe the an extended cut on DVD will provide a better balance.

I hope to God that they look at the numbers and say, "Ya know what? Maybe creating an extended cut for the DVD would be a good idea after all."

 

[co2]

When I hear people or....critics say that Banner/Hulk is a very limited character, it really irks me to no end. This is one of the most complex characters in comics. There is a reason the comics have had such a longevity. The exploration of Banner's fragmented phyche and what drives the Hulk along with his search for the cure is what makes for the most interesting stories. The best stories are always when writers have taken out the core of the character, disassembled it, and re-examined it. Mantlo did it, PAD did it big time...Even Stan did it from time to time. If the character is to have longevity on film, then this duality has to be explored too. That means we need to make banner the focal point.
It just drives me nuts when people think the only trick Hulk has up his sleeve is a big, dumb, smashing monster.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

The Rock says it doesn't matter what critics say!!!!

TIH deserves an A+++

 

[NoirMan82]

This thread has strayed so much it's actually pretty funny. But, yeah, a C is conventionally average.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

It has nothing to do with striving for B-'s it has to do with the grading system, how could a B- be "average at best" when alphabetical grading systems all dictate C as average?

I agree. No way, IMO, is B just "average". B, as I have always seen it, is good.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^It's not your opinion, it's a fact that B isn't an average score.

 

[co2]

Kids...

I have watched this debate go on for days...and have to step in because it is driving me nuts watching people mis-interpret one another.

Someone initially used the term "B" in the context of refering to a substandard movie. Let wiki clear this up...

The term B movie originally referred to a motion picture made on a low or modest budget and intended for distribution as the less-publicized, bottom half of a double feature during the so-called Golden Age of Hollywood. Although the U.S. production of movies intended as second features largely ceased by the end of the 1950s, the term B movie continues to be used in a broader sense, referring to any low-budget, commercial motion picture meant neither as an arthouse film nor as pornography. In its post–Golden Age usage, there is ambiguity on both sides: on the one hand, many B movies display a high degree of craft and aesthetic ingenuity; on the other, the primary interest of many inexpensive exploitation films is prurient. In some cases, both are true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_movie

Ya know...Jerry Seinfeld recently made an animated movie who's title was a riff on this term.

After the comment was made, then someone else came in and said that a movie given a "B" grade was not considered a bad film. True, but now we are talking about two different uses of the term. And then other people started chiming in and it exploded from there.

This place is funny sometimes because you see people start arguing simply over mis-understanding each other, but it gets to a point where watching mass ignorance just drives me up a wall.


Can this be over now?