BvS The Official Zack Snyder Directs Everything Thread - Part 3

[Mutato]

And TFA was made as a response to the awful Prequels trilogy that really set the franchise back. It has over 90% RT score, 2 billion WW in the box office, and revived the brand for a new generation. Said what you want about its similarity with ANH, the movie accomplished what it set out to do and then some.

The PT did not "set the franchise back." SW was more popular and financially successful than ever in the 2000s. The Clone Wars show was especially a big hit and helped keep the franchise alive through the lean years, before the dark times* Disney sale.

The fandom, of course, was split and much of the early marketing (practical effects! Real locations! Oh, like the PT?) for TFA was based on the (faulty) premise that the PT set the franchise back, sure. The movie itself doesn't actually bear that out, though (no, "this will begin to make things right" is not a meta PT diss).

Back on topic: Zack Snyder sucks.


*nerd joke, I'm totally down with Disney buying it

 

[Matt]

The PT did not "set the franchise back." SW was more popular and financially successful than ever in the 2000s. The Clone Wars show was especially a big hit and helped keep the franchise alive through the lean years, before the dark times* Disney sale.

The fandom, of course, was split and much of the early marketing (practical effects! Real locations! Oh, like the PT?) for TFA was based on the (faulty) premise that the PT set the franchise back, sure. The movie itself doesn't actually bear that out, though (no, "this will begin to make things right" is not a meta PT diss).

Back on topic: Zack Snyder sucks.


*nerd joke, I'm totally down with Disney buying it

The PT hurt Star Wars in a way. There is a reason George Lucas sold the property. If the PT were better received, do you believe for a second that he would not have done the sequel trilogy himself? If Lucas tried to create a sequel trilogy there would've very likely been backlash and it probably would've underperformed. In other words, the prequel trilogy hurt George Lucas's brand, so much so that he was forced to sell the franchise to salvage it.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Snyder brand is dead.

WB just needs to decide if a release date is worth killing DC's brand too.

 

[batfreakforever]

Snyder brand is dead.

WB just needs to decide if a release date is worth killing DC's brand too.

That's the biggest BS on the net. Snyder has done these comic book movies 300. Watchmen. MOS. BvS and now JL part 1 and 2. All for Warner Bros. No matter how they were or are received. He isn't going anywhere now. They obviously were impressed with MOS enough to give him a sequel to direct. BvS is the most successful Superman film yet. Warners is keeping him. So keep dreaming.

 

[Frodo]

They're keeping him for at least for the first JL film. That cake is already baked ,so unless they bring everything to a halt, they'll keep him on with studio oversight, which if the rumors are to believed , the studio already plans on having a more hands on role with JL part 1.

After that however, its wishful thinking to hope that WB won't look elsewhere in the directing department for JL 2.

 

[batfreakforever]

Wrong. Man of Steel. BvS and both parts of JL are Snyders story. That's why it's has a part 2 because it's the second part of the story for JL. Snyder is directing. Its just Internet BS that goes around trying to get hits for their sites.

 

[First Avenger]

Wrong. Man of Steel. BvS and both parts of JL are Snyders story. That's why it's has a part 2 because it's the second part of the story for JL. Snyder is directing. Its just Internet BS that goes around trying to get hits for their sites.

It's not Internet BS. It's under everyone's eye that BvS is a trainwreck. WB is just too stupid to notice it.

 

[Casual_Consumer]

Chris Terrio himself said he only wrote one script, which is the one being used to film Justice League "Part 1".

It's almost certain that Zack Snyder wouldn't be directing anymore DC films after this one.

 

[Kanye West]

BvS was underwhelming.


Some of you like to make it seem like it was much worse than that.

 

[TheScarecrow]

That's the biggest BS on the net. Snyder has done these comic book movies 300. Watchmen. MOS. BvS and now JL part 1 and 2. All for Warner Bros. No matter how they were or are received. He isn't going anywhere now. They obviously were impressed with MOS enough to give him a sequel to direct. BvS is the most successful Superman film yet. Warners is keeping him. So keep dreaming.

I'll let you enjoy your lovely view of the sand.

The writing is on the wall for Snyder. Whether it's now or after Justice League flops (which it absolutely will with him at the helm).

 

[AnneFan]

It seems people don't want to see Snyder succeed, rather to be proven right that 'he sucks'.

 

[Loki882]

Oh I liked his DOTD remake, it was a lot of fun. I also liked Watchmen, 300, and MOS. Heck I even think that Sucker Punch had some interesting ideas/themes, if poor execution. So I don't reflectively hate Snyder, at all. But, this movie just didn't work imo.

 

[WBwins]

Snyder has been given enough chances.Most people just dont want to see him disappiont again.So they want him out.

 

[Jaxon]

Snyder has been given enough chances.Most people just dont want to see him disappiont again.So they want him out.

Snyder's only failure is the criminally misunderstood Sucker Punch.

 

[WBwins]

Snyder's only failure is the criminally misunderstood Sucker Punch.

i said disappointment not failure and im talking about DCEU films.
The fact that Snyder is consistently "Misunderstood"is a testament to his flaws.He is incapable of properly conveying his story in a way that can be "understood"or appreciated by the audience.Poor storyteller

 

[the last son]

Nobody wanted Snyder to fail. I didn't impatiently wait for two and a half years to hate a movie. Man of steel is probably my top 5 hero movie. I'm not even the biggest superman fan. I love 300.This movie here was so bad I wanted to walk out. No characters were likeable and I mean none. Batman is my favorite and I never thought I would hope superman would end this imposter of Bruce Wayne. WW was the only decent portrayal of a hero and it doesn't matter because she's not in it enough. This should have been a feet stomping, crowd clapping and rallying movie to inspire. Instead a movie I waited for had me with my head resting on my hand wondering if I should walk out. He dropped the ball so bad, justice league is worth stalling and replacing him. You have a batman this gone and psychotic I can't get down. Same goes for the direction superman was taken after what I thought worked in man of steel. Terrible movie. Terrible direction. You don't get a redemption movie after this Snyder.

 

[MadVillainy]

Snyder's only failure is the criminally misunderstood Sucker Punch.

Snyder's last 3 movies before MoS lost money. And none of them got beyond okay reviews either.

I liked Watchmen a lot, but I'm not gonna lie and say it was a success.

 

[GreenKToo]

They're keeping him for at least for the first JL film. That cake is already baked ,so unless they bring everything to a halt, they'll keep him on with studio oversight, which if the rumors are to believed , the studio already plans on having a more hands on role with JL part 1.

After that however, its wishful thinking to hope that WB won't look elsewhere in the directing department for JL 2.

I think we are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

On one hand, Snyder does need some help, his visuals are great but everything else is pretty bad.

On the other, Studio interference has killed one than one film's chances in the past.

I'm not gonna hold my breath for JL making a 180 turn, I think the fans will suffer in the end AGAIN.

 

[jmc]

I'm perfectly ok with people liking Snyder's work, everyone has their own tastes, but jesus effing christ live in the real world. Most of his films have failed with both critics and audiences. Accept that is the case, stop looking for excuses and move on.

 

[MadVillainy]

It seems people don't want to see Snyder succeed, rather to be proven right that 'he sucks'.

Do you actually have proof of this on here? Besides very few outliers I don't see it.

The vast majority seem to have wanted Snyder to succeed. How does it benefit us if he fails?

There are some really tired statements:
"People wanted this/Snyder to fail"
"There's a bias against DC and that's why this didn't do that well"


Why can't people just accept that some didn't like this film and have apprehensions about the creative direction of the next film? If you like/love the film. Then great! Just know that not everyone agrees. It's not very rational or mature for anyone to write people who dont like the film as people wanting it to fail.

 

[GreenKToo]

I sure don't trust him now, not without some major help, and even that may not be enough.
I wish he could direct the visual scenes and let someone else do the character interaction moments.

 

[Light]

I sure don't trust him now, not without some major help, and even that may not be enough.
I wish he could direct the visual scenes and let someone else do the character interaction moments.

Snyder is not capable of crafting an entire universe let alone crafting one fantastic movie, bearing in mind if he is the mastermind of the DC verse this means he will have an input on every project meaning his taint will be placed on every DC property. He is like the dark one in the wheel of time tainting with a touch.

 

[The Joker]

BvS was underwhelming.

Some of you like to make it seem like it was much worse than that.

It was.

It seems people don't want to see Snyder succeed, rather to be proven right that 'he sucks'.

In fairness it's already been proven that he sucks. His track record shows that. If there was a good chance he could achieve greatness there would be a lot more optimism for JL. It's like how people were not writing Sam Raimi off in spite of Spider-Man 3, because they knew he was capable of greatness because of the first two Spidey movies.

Can't say the same for Snyder.

 

[Mutato]

The PT hurt Star Wars in a way. There is a reason George Lucas sold the property. If the PT were better received, do you believe for a second that he would not have done the sequel trilogy himself? If Lucas tried to create a sequel trilogy there would've very likely been backlash and it probably would've underperformed. In other words, the prequel trilogy hurt George Lucas's brand, so much so that he was forced to sell the franchise to salvage it.

No, he sold the franchise because he was done making blockbusters. He was too old to complete the training commit to another trilogy, and had a newborn baby and wife to spend time with. He accomplished what he set to accomplish (finish what eventually became the Anakin Skywalker saga) and was done. He sold it for legacy reasons. Whether one likes the PT or not, no matter what their perception in hindsight is--the Star Wars franchise never stopped printing money.

On topic: F Zack Snyder

 

[shauner111]

Snyders best films are average. Of course I want him to be gone.