The Real Deal Oscar Predictions - Part 3

I watched the WHOLE show and it wasnt horrible but it definately wasnt on par with the previous year or Jackmans, which was the best in years if you ask me, so oh well. The winners didn't shock me but i do think Fincher and Nolan were snubbed. Switch those two awards and you have a perfect show for me.
 
There's one man on the planet who can cater to the youngsters while still being able to perform the typical professional duties of a show host. Think big Irish head, chalk white skin, shares his name with a Robert E. Howard superhero.

Oscar producers, make it happen.
 
There's one man on the planet who can cater to the youngsters while still being able to perform the typical professional duties of a show host. Think big Irish head, chalk white skin, shares his name with a Robert E. Howard superhero.

Oscar producers, make it happen.
Very very tall? :cwink:

I still have his opening for the 2006(?) Emmy's on my computer. It was glorious. :awesome:
 
Man Chris Rock was the best host!!!


It was one of the most watched Oscar IF NOT the most watched when he Hosted.



And Why did Chris Nolan lose for best ORIGINAL Screenplay???


How MORE Original can Inception get???

I can see other movies beating Inception for best movie BUT c'mon for Original Screenplay, that's Nolan all the way!!!
 
Forgot to comment on Christian Bale's speech. Very cool, very touching. I kinda chuckled when he crossed that line from thanking/honoring Dickie to plugging his services and website, especially as people started booing. Oh well. There are far more annoying causes actors have plugged when using the thank you podium as a bully pulpit.

People weren't booing. They were awwwing.
 
Man Chris Rock was the best host!!!


It was one of the most watched Oscar IF NOT the most watched when he Hosted.



And Why did Chris Nolan lose for best ORIGINAL Screenplay???


How MORE Original can Inception get???

I can see other movies beating Inception for best movie BUT c'mon for Original Screenplay, that's Nolan all the way!!!

Too much coffee is bad for you.
 
Hush said:
I watched the WHOLE show and it wasnt horrible but it definately wasnt on par with the previous year or Jackmans, which was the best in years if you ask me, so oh well. The winners didn't shock me but i do think Fincher and Nolan were snubbed. Switch those two awards and you have a perfect show for me.

I actually didn't like Jackman's at all. All of his jokes seemed to be about how he likes to sing and dance. As I feel that Franco and Hathaway would've been better choices for the Golden Globes or MTV Awards, I feel that Jackman was better suited for the Tony Awards.

I don't like in general, when a serious actor is selected to host the Oscars. The Oscars by their very nature are self-indulgent, "look how great we are," B.S.. I think you need a guy like Billy Crystal who is a comedian first, an actor second. Who is enough of a part of Hollywood to make their roast-style endearing, but also not so ingrained in Hollywood that they can still take shots at the actors and knock George Clooney off of his pedestal when he does something like taking credit for the Civil Rights Movement. You need someone like that to keep the show grounded. Jackman wasn't that guy and he really needed to be that year considering Sean Penn won Best Actor.

Its why I think Conan is the ideal Oscar host. He can be 1/3 self-depreciative, 1/3 roast master, and 1/3 absurdist comedian. Its perfect for the Oscars.
 
Man Chris Rock was the best host!!!


It was one of the most watched Oscar IF NOT the most watched when he Hosted.



And Why did Chris Nolan lose for best ORIGINAL Screenplay???


How MORE Original can Inception get???

I can see other movies beating Inception for best movie BUT c'mon for Original Screenplay, that's Nolan all the way!!!

Because Inception as a script wasn't all that good. The character development was at best hollow, at worst non-existant. The plot was so-so and relied on lazy quick fixes that are justified by "Its teh dream worldz!" What made Inception special was its visual style, which isn't exactly related to the screenplay.
 
Oscars have gotten way too predictable.

Pretty much all of the major winners these past four years have been good films, albeit stuffy and esoteric. None of them, in my opinion, seem like classic or memorable films.

Slumdog Millionaire, No Country for Old Men and The Hurt Locker were all good films, but don't really seem to have the same longevity that past Oscar winners had to make them classic films. They just don't seem quite as worthy.

Maybe the film industry really is in a slump. When I think of Best Picture, I think of Forrest Gump, Braveheart, Shawshank Redemption (should have won), A Beautiful Mind and Silence of the Lambs. Not the stuffy fare that we've been getting for the past several years.

I'm not saying any of the winners from the past few years are bad...just not as good.

That and it's become too easy to predict who will win.

Well I hate to tell you this but Forrest Gump and Shawshank Redemption were the same year and only one could have one (it should have been Pulp Fiction btw :oldrazz: )

I wouldn't include NCFOM on that list. It was not my choice for 2007 (I preferred There Will Be Blood and Atonement of the nominees and several films like Zodiac, Sweeney Todd and the Assassination of Jesse James which were not nominated). However, it is not that the list of movies haven't been great in recent years (other than 2009's general weak offering). It's just that the Academy picks the wrong film.

For example in 2008, I think The Dark Knight has the appeal of Jaws or Empire Strikes Back and will live on as a mainstream audience favorite. Milk will have longevity of a film that explored gay rights in a humane and non-baitish way. The LGBT community will keep that movie relevant. Slumdog Millionaire was a simple feel good movie that people will forget. The Hurt Locker was an excellent war movie that is not war defining as say Platoon, Apocalypse Now or Saving Private Ryan were....but it was timely and made a doubly politically good statement (war is bad, women directors are good). It is a perfectly fine movie. But what else came out in 2009? Inglourious Basterds, a film that will live on as if nothing else but one of Tarantino's best (which means it will be remembered for decades to come) and Christoph Waltz's iconic performance as the ultimate Nazi villain.

This year films like The Social Network, Inception and Black Swan all have elements that will cause audiences to revisit them for years to come, IMO. TSN is a cultural milestone as the first film about the Digital Generation and even if it doesn't define it, it gives it a reflective quality much the same way The Graduate, Easy Rider and Midnight Cowboy were the first to really tackle the baby boomer generation in the late 1960s, even if none of them are definitive accounts. Of those, only Midnight Cowboy won a major Oscar.

Inception is a technical marvel that will be explored for its layered narrative and originality in exploring dreams in such a visceral way. If (and that is still if) Nolan becomes one of the true iconic masters this will be one of his signature films for its vision and technical prowess. Black Swan is already on its way to be a much spoofed/homaged soon-to-be clichéd allegory of the artist who killed herself for her art. Natalie Portman's performance is one for revisiting for years, if not decades, to come.

The Academy chooses movies like The King's Speech all the time. That doesn't mean it is the only great movie of the year.
 
I don't like in general, when a serious actor is selected to host the Oscars. The Oscars by their very nature are self-indulgent, "look how great we are," B.S.. I think you need a guy like Billy Crystal who is a comedian first, an actor second. Who is enough of a part of Hollywood to make their roast-style endearing, but also not so ingrained in Hollywood that they can still take shots at the actors and knock George Clooney off of his pedestal when he does something like taking credit for the Civil Rights Movement. You need someone like that to keep the show grounded. Jackman wasn't that guy and he really needed to be that year considering Sean Penn won Best Actor.

Its why I think Conan is the ideal Oscar host. He can be 1/3 self-depreciative, 1/3 roast master, and 1/3 absurdist comedian. Its perfect for the Oscars.
A serious actor also isn't used to ad-libbing when he's starting to lose an audience. Comedians and late night talk show hosts are trained for that.

CONAN FOR OSCAR HOST! :awesome:
 
Actually, it won Best Visual Effects and the two Sound Effect awards. Inception was the technical category winner this year. Also it tied King's Speech in overall wins. So, it was a big winner in its own right.



Going by the numbers, it was King's Speech, Inception, and Social Network. KS and Inception won 4 Oscars and SN won 3. Alice in Wonderland, The Fighter, and Toy Story 3 won 2 each.

I like inception but the technical awards are generally considered less important by the Academy. That is why poorly reviewed films like Alice in Wonderland and The Wolfman can become Oscar winners and nobody makes a big deal out of it, because those aren't "the big awards."

The biggest technical awards are Editing (usually a precursor to Best Picture, though not this year), Cinematography and Original Music. Of those, Inception won one. Which is a big deal, it was a major salute to Inception when they gave it award that usually doesn't go to summer fare they don't care about (like when Spider-Man 2 picked up all the sound and visual effects awards). However, The Social Network picked up the other two and one of the eight major awards--Best Adapted Screenplay. Inception didn't get one of the "major awards" so you could view it as a shutout if you overlooked that Best Cinematography was a concession, at least to the technical aspects, of how great Inception as a movie was.
 
I think the main reason why the host weren't all the special is because they wanted it to play safe after the Golden Globes debacle. It's the Academy way of showing "ohh look how sophisticated we are and look how insane they were with their host." Its a shame, I always wanted to see Louis C.K as the Oscar host :awesome:
 
I hate to say it, but the only other host besides Conan who can bring in the young while still being sharp and professional is:

Ryan Seacrest
 
I hate to say it, but the only other host besides Conan who can bring in the young while still being sharp and professional is:

Ryan Seacrest
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If you're going to get co-hosts, get two people who are on the same page. Hathaway was East, and Franco was West. You want my suggestion? Let Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law tag-team it next year.

Anyway, I went on over to AwardsDaily to read Sasha Stone's sulk-fest. What a horribly biased article.
 
A serious actor also isn't used to ad-libbing when he's starting to lose an audience. Comedians and late night talk show hosts are trained for that.

CONAN FOR OSCAR HOST! :awesome:

Actually, Hugh Jackman is one of the best ad-libbers I've ever seen. He didn't get to do too much of it at the Oscars (if he did at all, and I loved him as a host). But at The Boy From Oz? Holy crap. The last time I saw it, it ran more than 30 minutes over because of all the ad-libs. :wow: :funny:
 
There's one man on the planet who can cater to the youngsters while still being able to perform the typical professional duties of a show host. Think big Irish head, chalk white skin, shares his name with a Robert E. Howard superhero.

Oscar producers, make it happen.

Very very tall? :cwink:

I still have his opening for the 2006(?) Emmy's on my computer. It was glorious. :awesome:

A serious actor also isn't used to ad-libbing when he's starting to lose an audience. Comedians and late night talk show hosts are trained for that.

CONAN FOR OSCAR HOST! :awesome:
Yes. My three choices for Oscar hosting duties for the next few years are Conan, Robert Downey Jr (He'd be great) and the return of Billy Crystal. I'm sure Conan will host one eventually.

I hate to say it, but the only other host besides Conan who can bring in the young while still being sharp and professional is:

Ryan Seacrest
Ugh, never. And young people don't give a **** about him either.
 
If you're going to get co-hosts, get two people who are on the same page. Hathaway was East, and Franco was West. You want my suggestion? Let Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law tag-team it next year.

Anyway, I went on over to AwardsDaily to read Sasha Stone's sulk-fest. What a horribly biased article.

Sad thing about Sahsa is that she's actually a very good writer, this year though ever since the guilds went for TKS she's acted like a spoiled brat who didn't get the pony she wanted.
 
well the ratings were down from last years

ABC’s sleepy presentation of the Academy Awards not only turned off most critics (and blew up Twitter), but also sank in the ratings from last year.
The show was down 7 percent in the preliminary numbers among adults 18-49, despite the Academy picking youth-targeted hosts Anne Hathaway and James Franco to draw younger demos. The telecast delivered a 24.6 household rating and a 14.5 household number among adults 18-49.
Still, these numbers improve on Oscar ratings from 2008 and 2009. More to come…
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/28/oscar-ratings-201/

and the reviews for the show werent that great either

I want Chris Rock to come back, but I dont think people liked him that much and if I remember hearing he offended some people, I dont remember with what specifically
Conan would be cool. I just think they should get a comedian/comedians, not just actors who can be funny
 
Some Oscars trivia from the Oscars boards:

- Bale is the youngest living male acting winner. Portman is the 2nd youngest (youngest is Anna Paquin) living female acting winner.
- True Grit tied as the second most nominated film with no wins (together with Gangs of New York).
- The Fighter is the 8th film to win both supporting categories. The last time was for Caine and Wiest for Hannah and Her Sisters. The last time a movie got 2 acting awards was Million Dollar Baby in 2004 (Swank and Freeman).
- Leo & Bale are the second mother-son Oscar-winning team. The first was Fricker & Day-Lewis for My Left Foot
- Natalie Portman is the 4th actress to win in leading after been nominated in supporting once before following Grace Kelly, Maggie Smith and Cher.
- Melissa Leo is the 6th actress to win in supporting after been nominated in leading once before following Wendy Hiller, Shelley Winters, Whoopi Goldberg, Judi Dench and Cate Blanchett (not including Helen Hayes perfect track record).
- 3 out of 4 acting winners won on their 2nd nomination (Firth, Portman, Leo). 1 won on his first nomination (Bale).
- Amy Adams is now the youngest triple supporting actress loser in history.
- In the last ten years only 4 Best Picture winners also won a Golden Globe Best Picture.
- For the 4th time a film with Leonardo DiCaprio in the lead won the most oscars of the year (or tied to).
- Once again Colleen Atwood tied with Sandy Powell in having three wins out of nine nominations in total. Seven times they faced off each other.
- Rik Baker won his 7th Best Make-Up Oscar for "The Wolfman". He also won the very first oscar given out in this category for "American Werewolf".
 
Didn't know Amy Adams has been nominated three times. Thought this was her second.
 
I want Chris Rock to come back, but I dont think people liked him that much and if I remember hearing he offended some people, I dont remember with what specifically

Yeah, watch out for that Sean Penn. He'll break bread with Saddam Hussein, but how dare anybody make a timid joke about Jude Law in his presence. :(
 
yeah I was just reading about the criticism
and apprently Rock said something about no heterosexual guy watching the Oscars. :dry:. Big deal.

Idk what theyll be doing but next year I hope its good

Speaking of next year, I know its early but what movies do you expect to see
 
Basically you need a host that will take the piss out of the industry for these things. But that isn't what they want.
 

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