Comics The Real Possibility of MJ... *spoilers*

[gliderpilotgirl]

That was the single best arguement for keeping MJ alive I've ever heard. I really wish you were working for marvel and threw that nugget of information their way.


...stupid Joey Queer...he's the reason i havent had an urge to by a 616 comic in forever...(thank god for USM or i'd have nothing but the movies left)

Thank you for the compliment. If I knew Joe Quesada would seriously consider my letter, I would write one in a heartbeat.
To the others, sure, guys at the age aren't seriously thinking about marriage, it's a given. It's called immaturity and hormones. But don't try to tell me that guys don't deep down all want someday to be married, and have that wifely backing and support. It's built into you guys.
EDIT: Does anyone know how you actually would go about sending a letter or email to Quesada?

 

[Arach Knight]

While nobody wants to be alone, I don't know if every man wants to settle down with "wifey." I myself am getting married this December, but most of my male frieds are all about the "experience" of dating (i'm 23 mnd you, as are mos of my friends). I guess it all depends on how you are raised. I can agree though, that young guys can appreciate the dynamic of Peter and Mary Jane. Even though they are fictional, kids still look up to super heroes.

 

[Gnetic]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

 

[Narynan]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

Hey, Don't just come here in here and bust on people because they feel one way or the other. Thats totally F'ed and ... we'll face it, if that's the way you're gonna play while you're here; take your ball and go home.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

Hmmm...I take you haven't read much of Spider-man's history eh? He has 40 years of history with MJ. She grew from being a teenaged party-girl, hiding her true self, into the grown-up, secret strength behind Peter. You can't call a supporting character of nearly 40 years and her magnitude easily replaceable.
If I knew the death had a valid reason, and a point ( and it's been done before, see ASM 121-122 : The Death of Gwen Stacy ) I may be inclined to be more forgiving. The removal of MJ is happening solely because the writers and editors have hit a point where they are unwilling to make it work. Not because it can't.

 

[Arach Knight]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

It isn't that people love the fictional character to some creepy degree. It is the fact that we all have expectations based on the history and background behind the character. Comic books just work that way. People like the cage rattled, but they don't want it toppled over. They already turned Eddie Brock into a suicidal wimp...they made Gargan into Venom. They retconned the orgin of Peter's powers, to being mystical. People have a right to be angry when they are paying money to follow a story, that suddenly gets thrown out of whack.

 

[Eye Doc]

In the long run, when everyone has forgotten about MJ, I think it will be for the best.

Do you think everyone will actually forget about MJ?

Gwen Stacy has been dead since 1973. It seems that certain writers at Marvel haven't forgotten about her. Peter has married and moved on since then. Yet, Marvel won't LET you forget Gwen Stacy. She's been a constant presence in Spidey for the past several years (House of M, Spider-Man:Blue, and the awful Sins Past)

If Gwen gets that much attention for being a supporting character for less than 10 years (circa 1965-1973), I find it hard to believe people will just forget about MJ. She's been Peter's WIFE from 1987 to the present, and was a supporting character years before that. Heck, people on this board can't even let go of Ben Reilly! He was in the books for less than 3 years!

Eye Doc

PS-If MJ is killed off, I wonder if she'll get the same type of "attention" the long deceased Gwen has received over the past several years?

 

[Captivated]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

This statement is ignorant and [SIZE=-1]incoherent [/SIZE]on so many levels. You're either young and clueless, or just a jerk... not sure... so the verbal thrashing is suspended. For now.

 

[shinlyle]

You guys are such babies. Your gonna stop reading a book because a fictional characters wife dies. It's not like spiderman's dying. You should be more pissed off when a villan gets killed off. She's a supporting chacter easily replaced. Plus if they were to just kill off no body characters no one would care. It creates drama. It's an element of story telling, get over it fanboys.

Killing a character off as a natural progression in the character's life is one thing, but the way they are going about killing her off is so forced that it is ridiculous. Peter, the guy who has guarded his secret identity so well for all these years, decides to unmask on national television. This is so forced it's unbelievable.

Also, some characters SHOULD NOT be killed off. Mary Jane is one of them. She's now a staple in the Spider-Man mythos and she should remain there. Gwen died....that was Peter's great love that was lost because of him being Spider-Man. To do it again cheapens Gwen's death and puts the character in the position of never getting close to anyone else. Then we get more of the "I am spider" crap and we lose what little supporting cast the spider-books have left...which is Mary Jane and Aunt May.

Also, who the hell are you to come on here and tell people they can't complain? People can and will complain about things they don't like, so get over it.

Also, way to pull out the "fanboy" card on an internet message board...really cool....

 

[mre]

Do you think everyone will actually forget about MJ?

Gwen Stacy has been dead since 1973. It seems that certain writers at Marvel haven't forgotten about her. Peter has married and moved on since then. Yet, Marvel won't LET you forget Gwen Stacy. She's been a constant presence in Spidey for the past several years (House of M, Spider-Man:Blue, and the awful Sins Past)

If Gwen gets that much attention for being a supporting character for less than 10 years (circa 1965-1973), I find it hard to believe people will just forget about MJ. She's been Peter's WIFE from 1987 to the present, and was a supporting character years before that. Heck, people on this board can't even let go of Ben Reilly! He was in the books for less than 3 years!

Eye Doc

PS-If MJ is killed off, I wonder if she'll get the same type of "attention" the long deceased Gwen has received over the past several years?

I just have a feeling in order to not make Peter seem like a widow they might try to forget about MJ... could happen.

 

[Flint Marko]

I was in the comic shop this week (unusual huh?).

My main comic dude was telling me that he has this belief (after talking to others) that MJ is going to be killed off during the Civil War as a precursor to SM donning the black duds (in mourning) and leaving Avengers, changing sides, and going back to being a loner etc.
This would be drastic and piss a hell of a lot of people off, but the stuff Joe Q has been talking about recently in interviews has sometimes hinted towards this type of thing.
Talking about how peeps like PP best as a swinging bachelor, which basically makes for more fun story telling (Not that I think it would be the right path to take).

I didn’t really think Joe Q would go that far but my comic man was explaining that he reckons Joe really does not care about character mythos and long time supporting cast, all he cares about is shock stories and sky rocketing sales. Looking at it like that (and his recent track record) I’m starting to think of this in terms of something that may actually happen.
Is anyone else concerned?

if that happens, then marvel will have officially plummeted down the drains. Right now, the comics they produce are ok, besides the major retcons. Besides that, I'm liking the temporary changes (because i'm almost positive that the new suit, powers, and unmasking won't be permanent) but i hope they restore the classic spidey we know and love real soon

 

[Dangerous]

Hey Flint, welcome to the Hype!

I'm w/ you in hoping that the classic Spider-man status quo is returned to normal in the near future. Although its a bit of a head scratcher to think how they will restore his secret ID.
As for if they killed off MJ I think that would be something that Marvel would underestimate the effect of and many a long term reader would just drop SM.

 

[Flint Marko]

Hey Flint, welcome to the Hype!

I'm w/ you in hoping that the classic Spider-man status quo is returned to normal in the near future. Although its a bit of a head scratcher to think how they will restore his secret ID.
As for if they killed off MJ I think that would be something that Marvel would underestimate the effect of and many a long term reader would just drop SM.

I was hoping that some sort of cosmic being would just whipe everyones memory or something like that.

 

[OctoHaz]

I was hoping that some sort of cosmic being would just whipe everyones memory or something like that.

I'm hoping it's something a little less obvious than that. For example, how the whole Daredevil secret ID thing's been handled (from what I've seen of recent Daredevil comics) has been pretty satisfying; if Marvel does go the way of timewarp or memory wipe, I'll be quite disappointed in them. It'd take something really special for them to make me happy with that kind of solution.

That they'll restore Spidey's secret ID is, I think, inevitable. I'm just hoping they'll do it in a way that makes me go "wow, neat!" rather than "sigh".

Also, yeah, hi there, Flint. B) (Yay, someone with a smaller post-count than me! t: )

 

[Dragon]

I haven't followed DD in a long while. How was his ID reveal resolved?

 

[ragdus]

like i suggested in another thread when spidey ditches the sidekick suit the only other suit he can find is of the alien costume design

Such a thing is only important if you have an identity to preserve, which is no longer the case for Peter. Lost suit? Big whoop. Do battle in your street clothes. We all know who you are now anyways.

 

[shinlyle]

I haven't followed DD in a long while. How was his ID reveal resolved?

Matt just denied it. He was outted in the tabloids, after all, so it wasn't like it was the most reliable source. Still, he denied it, was locked up in Ryker's for being Daredevil (obstruction of justice), and broke out of jail. While he was incarcerated, there was a new DD out and about who was later revealed to be

Spoiler

Iron FIst

Daredevil's really the best book Marvel has out right now...well, next to Punisher MAX, anyways...

 

[shinlyle]

if that happens, then marvel will have officially plummeted down the drains. Right now, the comics they produce are ok, besides the major retcons. Besides that, I'm liking the temporary changes (because i'm almost positive that the new suit, powers, and unmasking won't be permanent) but i hope they restore the classic spidey we know and love real soon

Well said, and welcome aboard the Hype-train, man!

 

[Arach Knight]

At this point, i'm willing to believe that Marvel won't even try to undo Spidey's identity clean up. I mean, when Ironman did it, he at least had drones to pretend that he was in two places at one time (or even Jim Rhodes). Daredevil was locked in prison and had Danny Rand donning the suit, to make it appear as if he is in two places at once. With Ezikiel dead, there is no real easy way for Peter to pretend he is in two places at once. maybe i'm not thinking in a broad enough fashion, but they seem short of options on the "cool" scale, for undoing this little ordeal. If it does happen, I completly see some Wanda/House of M throwback being the solution.

 

[3dman27]

Well said, and welcome aboard the Hype-train, man!

i checke the tribulations pages not bad shynle now thats what a superhero comic should look like

 

[SpideyInATree]

Matt just denied it. He was outted in the tabloids, after all, so it wasn't like it was the most reliable source. Still, he denied it, was locked up in Ryker's for being Daredevil (obstruction of justice), and broke out of jail. While he was incarcerated, there was a new DD out and about who was later revealed to be

Spoiler

Iron FIst

Daredevil's really the best book Marvel has out right now...well, next to Punisher MAX, anyways...

Don't forget Captain America, Runaways, and She-Hulk

 

[shinlyle]

i checke the tribulations pages not bad shynle now thats what a superhero comic should look like

Thanks, man. I'm tryin'.

 

[shinlyle]

Don't forget Captain America, Runaways, and She-Hulk

Damn straight!

Young Avengers, Astonishing X-Men, and Ultimates are on the top of my list, as well...when they come out.

 

[freemadison]

With Ezikiel dead, there is no real easy way for Peter to pretend he is in two places at once. maybe i'm not thinking in a broad enough fashion, but they seem short of options on the "cool" scale, for undoing this little ordeal. If it does happen, I completly see some Wanda/House of M throwback being the solution.

Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Ben Reilly.
Kaine.

 

[Arach Knight]

1)Isn't Kane also kind of on the decased list, just like Reily?
2)I think the clone saga has messed up Spider-Man books enough. Even without the clone saga, Marvel has managed to ruin Spider-Man. Do they really need to reintroduce elements that contributed to the ruining of the book, to a book that is already on a downward slide? That seems beyond counter productive. Besides...I don't recall Kane having the spider powers. Just that offshoot, face scarring thing.