The real reason this world is such a crappy place.

[Cаrter]

I actually would, but I'd regret it after I got stabbed in the chest or something.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I will settle this. I will download some of her videos tonight and an hour later, I will post my thoughts.

It doesn't really matter. =/ I actually forgot up until I saw this post. XD

 

[Colossal Spoons]

As much as I'd want to say that I'd immediately break it up; nobody could guess why the kids were beating up the other kid. Suppose you stopped the fight and asked why they were attacking the kid on the floor and they responded "Cuz he molested his own sister". What do you do then?

 

[kainedamo]

I have taken it upon myself to intervene in certain situations several times.

I've never actualy intervened in a situation I thought was dangerous, though. But I would. I absolutely 100% would.

I agree that one reason why kids run so wild and get away with so much is because ordinary people let them.

In the news about a year or two ago there was a story about a man who was on a bus that got stabbed. The bus was full of people, everyone saw what happened, but no one interfered.

I 100% believe that many bastards do anti-social things or dangerous things because they think no one has the balls to stop them.

 

[hippy fascist]

As much as I'd want to say that I'd immediately break it up; nobody could guess why the kids were beating up the other kid. Suppose you stopped the fight and asked why they were attacking the kid on the floor and they responded "Cuz he molested his own sister". What do you do then?

I say report him to the police rather than kick the crap out of him

and if you're gonna play knight in shining armour do it solo, three in one is hardly courageous

 

[Spider-Grrl1516]

That is horrible. Why do people have to be so cruel?

Good job for doing the right, thing, though.

 

[kainedamo]

So I was driving home from work today and since I go through various villages on my way home I was only doing about 20mph. I noticed a couple of kids that I thought were trying to knock some railings over, but I realised when I got a bit closer that these three lads were kicking someone who was curled up into a ball against the railings. I pulled my car up onto the curb, ran over and grabbed one of them by the back of his jacket and chucked him onto the ground behind me. The other two ran off before I could get to them so I turned round to have a word with the one I'd grabbed. I asked him why the **** he was doing it in as scary a voice as I could muster and the kid turned and ran while screaming "cause he's fat".

After the three were gone I went over to make sure the kid was alright and I swear he couldn't have been older than 13 whereas his attackers were all clearly 16-17.I asked if he was ok and he said he'd be alright but he was covered in bruises and had a bloody nose. He told me that this happens to him every day!

Now at this point these kind of rants would normally start having a go at the kids or the parents but that wasn't what bothered me about this, yes the kids were bastards and their parents should give them a good hiding but, 4 cars went past before me and probably many more since this was a busy road and it had clearly been going on for 5-10 minutes. The kid seemed genuinely SHOCKED that I'd stopped. Like I was doing him some big favour!

The real problem is not the scallies or their parents, it's the fact that out of at least five people I was the ONLY one who stopped to do something about it. It's not like these kids had dragged him into a dark alley and set on him, they were doing it in plain sight and not one person thought to stop and break it up. The problem with this world can be encapsulated in one sentence.

"NOT MY PROBLEM"

So I ask you this, and be honest since I've made it a private poll so that you won't look like a coward if you say no, would you try to stop it if you were in my position?

Congradulations, by the way. You did the right thing. I really despise the type of person that wouldn't interfere in that situation. In fact, I'd even go as far as to say they are a worthless human being.

When I was about 13 years old, I went into town by myself. I was gonna meet some friends from school, but they didn't turn up. I went to a video game store and started playing a PC game. Some guys came over, about 6 of them, varying ages some 13 some a couple years older. They started messing with the machine, and telling me to get lost. I told them I hadn't finished my game. Eventually they were just bugging me too much so I got up to leave. While all of this is going on, while these guys are clearly picking on me, there must have been at least 10 adults in the store.

When I start leaving, one of them pushes me from behind. I turn around and look at him. I push him back. He doesn't do anything. I sort of give a laugh, and go to leave again. The ****er attacks me from behind. Then all of a sudden I'm swarmed. Knees start ramming into me. My head's pushed down. I can feel them hitting me. My heart beats fast and I get angry just thinking about it now. This must have went on for a good 2 full minutes before a staff guy even comes over to break it up. Now this is the ******ed part. He tells us all to leave. As if I'm one of them! I start walking out of the shop. This is probably the part that makes me the angriest when I think back to it - a middle aged man pushes me as I leave the store!! What the hell?? Way to completely get it wrong, jackass.

So I leave the store. I can hear the group of boys talking. Some of them are saying "c'mon let's just go!". But two of them decide to follow me. I'm walking down a street in town - a crowded street. Seriously hundreds of people walking around doing their shopping. I get punched in the back of the head. Then again. I don't even look behind me to see which of them is doing it. Tears are streaming down my face. At one point I start yelling at them to just leave me alone. I keep walking away, and they keep running up to punch me in the back of the head. Eventually, one of them grabs me and throws me against a shop window, then they run off. THEN... about 5 people come over and ask me if I'm okay. I was so angry back then. I was seriously more angry with the people in the street, with the people asking me if I was ok, than I was with the kids.

The whole thing wouldn't have happened if someone with a little bit of balls just told them to stop.

 

[tzarinna]

It all depends on the scenario. I've always been for helping out the little guy,rooting for the underdog and all. I've been known to try to stop fights and I've been told not to jump in cause I could get hurt. I was an itty bitty thing. I'm still not so big. I'm nothing against a 300 lb. man beating on his wife/girl friend in the parking lot which I've seen. I recall some guy getting pounded in the early morning and I had the hardest time getting stores to call the cops for me. They just looked at me like I was crazy.

So I'd have to say no,as much as I'd like to.
When taking First Aid/CPR they tell you not to risk your own safety to aid the other.

 

[kainedamo]

As much as I'd want to say that I'd immediately break it up; nobody could guess why the kids were beating up the other kid. Suppose you stopped the fight and asked why they were attacking the kid on the floor and they responded "Cuz he molested his own sister". What do you do then?

You could use your common sense. They shouldn't be beating up a kid - period. Seriously, it's a looooooooooooooong shot that a group of kids beating the crap out of one single denfenseless kid have honourable reasons for doing so. You should still interfere.

 

[kainedamo]

No. I wouldn't want to get involved in anything like that, they might turn on me next. And I am kind of hoping to keep this nose for another ten years at least. I mean it in a non-mean way though. Maybe if the bashers went away, then I would ask if he's okay.

By then it's too late. How can you "mean that in a non-mean way"? For all you know, the person getting beat up is gonna get serious injuries or ****ing die, and all you care about is your nose?

 

[hippy fascist]

By then it's too late. How can you "mean that in a non-mean way"? For all you know, the person getting beat up is gonna get serious injuries or ****ing die, and all you care about is your nose?

Exactly, which is why I just yanked the kid away and threatened him. If I'd been given a credible reason I would have taken the kid they were beating to the police station myself but by not getting involved it's a lose-lose situation.

I should admit at this point that I've studied martial arts (one to red belt, one to green) over a five year period so the danger factor was somewhat lessened...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

You could use your common sense. They shouldn't be beating up a kid - period. Seriously, it's a looooooooooooooong shot that a group of kids beating the crap out of one single denfenseless kid have honourable reasons for doing so. You should still interfere.

I've already made the step to interfere in my example. I asked what you do after that point? Do you console the molester and scold the attackers?

 

[Cаrter]

I just carry around my brass knucks.
Keep em in my inside coat pocket.

True Story.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

My father had me extensively trained in taijiquan, just in case, for whatever reason, my escort was overwhelmed.

 

[kainedamo]

Exactly, which is why I just yanked the kid away and threatened him. If I'd been given a credible reason I would have taken the kid they were beating to the police station myself but by not getting involved it's a lose-lose situation.

I should admit at this point that I've studied martial arts (one to red belt, one to green) over a five year period so the danger factor was somewhat lessened...

Because of what happened to me (see the post above) I made a promise to myself that I'd interfere if I could. The problem is, when should you let something slide and when should you go berzerkerberage?

One thing I let slide - Over a year ago I went to see a movie with some friends. Outside the cinema, two of my friends were clowning around with each other. A man, older than us and bigger than us, started making derogetory remarks about them - and he had two friends with him, also older and bigger. We sort of walked away, while my friend called them *******s under his breath. He's a small guy. I mean seriously he's tiny. I'm 6'0, and my other male friend is a homosexual so he wouldn't be much good in a fight! I thought about yelling something at the guys as we walked off but thought better of it.

One time I went berzerkerberage - I was out with friends, celebrating my homosexual friends birthday party (same homo from the first story there). He was dancing on the dancefloor, then came over to where we were sitting in great pain. At the time I just thought he was sick and thought nothing of it. He was in pain for a long time. Later, he told me some guy punched him in the balls, deliberately and as hard as he could. I asked him to point the guy out. He did. I went to the dancefloor and looked at the guy. I waited for my chance, then pounced on him. I must have knocked him to the ground with a punch. I remember swinging punches, and then him being on the ground and me on top of him, gripping his t-shirt and shouting at him. Then I was thrown out of the club. No regrets or anything about that incident.

One time I went berzerkerberage - About 4 years ago I was playing pool with my friends (no gays this time). There was a group playing pool at the table next to us, and they were being a bit rude and obnoxious. We thought nothing of it and continued to play pool. At one point one of them took a packet of crisps that was clearly one of ours. My friend that owned it said nothing, I wasn't gonna start something over a packet of crisps but I did give the guy dirty looks! Anyway, at one point one of them comes over, acting all drunk (and I emphasise the word act, he was just putting on the show of being an ass) and tries to shake our hands individually. Each of us politely ignore him. When he got to my friend Seamus, Seamus shook his hand. When he did, the ******* punched Seamus right in the eye. I was in shock so much, I didn't do anything at first. The guy is bouncing around yelling, "'cmon, c'mon!", Seamus is holding his face in pain. I'm about to get up, when my friend Frank shoves the guy. I see the other guys at the other table get ready to move, I knew what the *******s were up to. This was planned. They just wanted a fight. I grabbed my snooker que, held it above my head, and started yelling at the first guy that punched Seamus. He almost fell over trying to get away from me. The other guys threw balls at me but missed. The bouncers/security came up and proceeded to kick them out.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

So, since your friend is a homosexual, he's automatically no good for a fight?

 

[kainedamo]

I've already made the step to interfere in my example. I asked what you do after that point? Do you console the molester and scold the attackers?

How can you really know he's a molester just based on their words? It could be part of a cruel joke on the kid - label him a molester. Or a cruel rumour.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The real problem is not the scallies or their parents, it's the fact that out of at least five people I was the ONLY one who stopped to do something about it.

Actually it is.

 

[kainedamo]

So, since your friend is a homosexual, he's automatically no good for a fight?

That was just a bit of a joke. But seriously, I've known him a long time. He'd be almost useless in a fight. He's too sensitive.

 

[hippy fascist]

My father had me extensively trained in taijiquan, just in case, for whatever reason, my escort was overwhelmed.

mine was jiu-jitsu and judo. I picked them as they are both reactive and therefore defensive rather than aggresive.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

How can you really know he's a molester just based on their words? It could be part of a cruel joke on the kid - label him a molester. Or a cruel rumour.

I'm gonna call you Mr. Benefit Of The Doubt from now on. You're right though, you can't know that and taking the situation at face value; you'd have to agree that the assault is wrong and must be stopped.

 

[kainedamo]

I'm gonna call you Mr. Benefit Of The Doubt from now on. You're right though, you can't know that and taking the situation at face value; you'd have to agree that the assault is wrong and must be stopped.

Agreed.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

However, when you find out later that you saved a racist molester; you're gonna kick yourself

 

[kainedamo]

mine was jiu-jitsu and judo. I picked them as they are both reactive and therefore defensive rather than aggresive.

I keep meaning to take up a self defense class at some point. So far in my life, I've been fortunate enough to not really need self defence (except for when I had my ass kicked when I was 13). What would you recommend? Jiu-jitsu or judo? How long roughly does it take to get the hang of it so it's actually useful?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

That was just a bit of a joke. But seriously, I've known him a long time. He'd be almost useless in a fight. He's too sensitive.

lol I was joking. Don't stress it. I forget this place doesn't emit my thoughts too well.