The Dark Knight The Realism Debate thread

[CaptainClown]

Ya I think Nolan has bigger and better plans in mind. Though I wouldn't mind it, I would like it if he produces another series though.

 

[Agentsands77]

on the other hand it's nice that Nolan went for something different, a completely different take.

Agreed. I love gothic Batman and film noir Batman as much as anyone, but I don't want Batman to be only that. Nor would I want Batman to be only as he's presented in the Nolanverse. Nolan's vision isn't definitive, but no version is - Batman is a character that should be continually viewed under different lenses and approaches.

I'm glad we got a new, refreshing take on Batman that paints him in a different light than we've seen him. Does this approach sacrifice some things? Yes. But it also adds other things.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I agree, Sheldon.

Ya I think Nolan has bigger and better plans in mind. Though I wouldn't mind it, I would like it if he produces another series though.

I don't think you can have "bigger or better" plans than Batman unless he's going after Best director or plans to direct Spider-Man in the future


But hey, he could do the "best director" picture in between bat-films.

 

[Bright Knight]

Agreed. I love gothic Batman and film noir Batman as much as anyone, but I don't want Batman to be only that. Nor would I want Batman to be only as he's presented in the Nolanverse. Nolan's vision isn't definitive, but no version is - Batman is a character that should be continually viewed under different lenses and approaches.



I'm glad we got a new, refreshing take on Batman that paints him in a different light than we've seen him. Does this approach sacrifice some things? Yes. But it also adds other things.

Very well said.

 

[CaptainClown]

I agree, Sheldon.




I don't think you can have "bigger or better" plans than Batman unless he's going after Best director or plans to direct Spider-Man in the future


But hey, he could do the "best director" picture in between bat-films.

thats what I meant by bigger and better. I think he might want to make a good oscar worthy movie though

 

[Mr. Socko]

The Prestige was snubbed of many nominations.

 

[CaptainClown]

Oh ya def. I read somewhere that comic book movies are really draining so I dunno if he wants to keep all that up.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Draining?

As long as they've got good talent behind them, they'll do good. But that's just the problem. The studios are hiring sucky talent like Tim Story for FF and MSJ for Ghost Rider. It's people like Nolan who keep the genre afloat. Raimi was doing good at first too.

 

[CaptainClown]

Well I mean draining like its a tiresome not like he is bored with it just like physically draining.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Oh ok, I thought you meant something else. Yea, I bet they are tiresome. You can finish a non-fx movie within months. Can take up to years to do a superhero film.

 

[Bright Knight]

The Prestige was snubbed of many nominations.

Best Film of 2006 IMO. And that has nothing to do with being a fan of Nolan. I really really loved that film.

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya I love that film I think we have gone over that huh?

 

[Agentsands77]

The Prestige was snubbed of many nominations.

So were a number of great films from 2006. UNITED 93 didn't get its due, nor did PAN'S LABYRINTH, which, if there was any justice in the world, would have swept the awards.

 

[CaptainClown]

Last year there were a lot of good movies out. Pan's should have been in best film though.

 

[Crook]

The Departed deserved the award you losers.

 

[CaptainClown]

Oh ya I forgot about the Departed ya your right Departed deserved best film thats why I said a lot of good films

 

[Mr. Socko]

The Departed deserved the award you losers.

No one said it didn't.

I said Prestige should have gotten more noms is all.

 

[Doc Samson]

Agreed. I love gothic Batman and film noir Batman as much as anyone, but I don't want Batman to be only that. Nor would I want Batman to be only as he's presented in the Nolanverse. Nolan's vision isn't definitive, but no version is - Batman is a character that should be continually viewed under different lenses and approaches.

I'm glad we got a new, refreshing take on Batman that paints him in a different light than we've seen him. Does this approach sacrifice some things? Yes. But it also adds other things.

Precisely! Hopefully alot of people who dearly love Burton's films can understand it's not a fact of choice, rather a preference. Burton & Nolan delivered terrific Batman films, but definitive is something not even the comic books have mastered. No one should expect a film to either...

 

[roach]

I am against the hyper realism. In making these movies it's not about bringing these characters into our world but about recreating a world where a man dressed as a bat seems like a good idea. That is the major problem because if you have this hyper realism than you stand the chance of having your fim picked apart because of things not being real.

 

[CaptainClown]

I like the hyper realism on certain things, but I like it when its applied to fantasy things mainly because I feel a greater connection to that then a world I definitely know I would never see. It is like that false hope of going its possible.

 

[roach]

Batman in the real world would never work out the way it does in the comics

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya I know non of that would work in the real world but it really depends on the viewer, some like to keep their fantasy with fantasy and realism with realism and some like to see it mixed

 

[roach]

Some realism is fine..too much is not a good thing

 

[fcrowelle06]

I just want a mix of both, I mean this is a fictional based character in a comic-book world, and it's being made into a movie, if I wanted realism, I'd buy a bat-suit and start digging out a cavern and start punching clowns left and right...and then take a random kid who looks like me from an orphanage and give hime karate training

 

[TromaFreak64]

I just want a mix of both, I mean this is a fictional based character in a comic-book world, and it's being made into a movie, if I wanted realism, I'd buy a bat-suit and start digging out a cavern and start punching clowns left and right...and then take a random kid who looks like me from an orphanage and give hime karate training

I think this is pretty much how I am gonna live my life starting today.