The Rush Limbaugh Thread II

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Say what you want but when I've listened to him - which has never been regularly - he's offered a clear point of view. Some of it well thought and insightful, some of it complete balderdash. My big gripe with him is his inability to give credit, when due, to any non-republican. It would undermine his credibility as a a journalist - if he was or if he had any start with, which he isn't and he didn't. But to deny he can layout a clear point of view, even if it isn't one you necessarily agree with in all or part, is kinda silly.
 
@The Overlord, what the heck are you talking about...

I didn't say you couldn't talk about him, or had a valid reason. I simply said, he has the ability to keep people talking about him.

How the hell did you get this...

That's not fair, there is a perfect valid reason to talk about and especially to criticize him, he's an infotainer and I loathe infotainment.

out of what I said?????

Calm down TO, I'm only Fiscally Conservative, not Socially Conservative, there is no need to read a slam into everything I post.
 
Say what you want but when I've listened to him - which has never been regularly - he's offered a clear point of view. Some of it well thought and insightful, some of it complete balderdash. My big gripe with him is his inability to give credit, when due, to any non-republican. It would undermine his credibility as a a journalist - if he was or if he had any start with, which he isn't and he didn't. But to deny he can layout a clear point of view, even if it isn't one you necessarily agree with in all or part, is kinda silly.

As Phoenix Wright might say: OBJECTION!
 
I love the way that Rush makes people lazy and ignorant, not the individuals themselves.
 
I think its that ignorant/lazy people just gravitate towards his show and he exploits that. He may not make them that way, but he sure as **** isnt helping the discourse in this country.
 
I think its that ignorant/lazy people just gravitate towards his show and he exploits that. He may not make them that way, but he sure as **** isnt helping the discourse in this country.

In the list of people hurting discourse in this country, Rush is far from the top.

I mean you have a large section of the Democratic Party who try to hide socialism by using the word "progressive" and you have institutions that don't explain what "Capitalism is" what a "Free Market" is and what sort of government our Founding Fathers wanted.

You have respected liberals trying to call a "Public Option" a "Free Market" solution (due to the public option competing with private insurance).

I remember Alan Colmes actually tried to make that argument on the Factor the other night and Bill didn't even bat an eye at that comment. I lost every ounce of respect I had for Bill that night.
 
In the list of people hurting discourse in this country, Rush is far from the top.

I mean you have a large section of the Democratic Party who try to hide socialism by using the word "progressive" and you have institutions that don't explain what "Capitalism is" what a "Free Market" is and what sort of government our Founding Fathers wanted.

Ok, I agree that there are many people hurting discourse in this country, and sure, many are Democrats, but the rest just seems like something Beck would have up on his chalk board. The Dems are hardly socialists, thats just Republican fear mongering.

[/QUOTE]You have respected liberals trying to call a "Public Option" a "Free Market" solution (due to the public option competing with private insurance). [/QUOTE]

How is not adding to peoples options not in the spirit of the free market? I'm no economist, but it seems the real worry here is that private insurers wont be able to compete. Well, maye they need to change their business practices abit.

[/QUOTE]I remember Alan Colmes actually tried to make that argument on the Factor the other night and Bill didn't even bat an eye at that comment. I lost every ounce of respect I had for Bill that night.[/QUOTE]

As far as political pundits go, I prefer O'Reilly over Hannity, Beck, or Ingram
 
I think its that ignorant/lazy people just gravitate towards his show and he exploits that. He may not make them that way, but he sure as **** isnt helping the discourse in this country.

What is your evidence of this...????
 
@The Overlord, what the heck are you talking about...

I didn't say you couldn't talk about him, or had a valid reason. I simply said, he has the ability to keep people talking about him.

How the hell did you get this...

Now see you said:

"He has the ability to make some people so angry that they speak incoherently and babble about nothing, and therefore never actually get their own ideas out there, only angry rants about him..."

Now see some people could take as a slam, that people criticize him for no reason besides unthinking rabid hatred.

If I hate the concept of infotainment, then I'm babbling about nothing, I'm talking about something I think is important.

Now that may not have being your intention, but the paragraph can make people think that it conveys that intention.

out of what I said?????

Calm down TO, I'm only Fiscally Conservative, not Socially Conservative, there is no need to read a slam into everything I post.

Alright fine, no real offense was taken. I wasn't really angry.

I love the way that Rush makes people lazy and ignorant, not the individuals themselves.

He's an enabler.

Say what you want but when I've listened to him - which has never been regularly - he's offered a clear point of view. Some of it well thought and insightful, some of it complete balderdash. My big gripe with him is his inability to give credit, when due, to any non-republican. It would undermine his credibility as a a journalist - if he was or if he had any start with, which he isn't and he didn't. But to deny he can layout a clear point of view, even if it isn't one you necessarily agree with in all or part, is kinda silly.

I could care less whether he has a clear point or not and the fact he is a complete hypocrite undermines any clear vision he may have.

Frankly he reduces complex issues to simplified talking points, that's why I don't like him. If he was well spoken person who delivered thought criticism of Obama, I wouldn't agree with him, but I could respect him.

In the list of people hurting discourse in this country, Rush is far from the top.

I mean you have a large section of the Democratic Party who try to hide socialism by using the word "progressive" and you have institutions that don't explain what "Capitalism is" what a "Free Market" is and what sort of government our Founding Fathers wanted.

You have respected liberals trying to call a "Public Option" a "Free Market" solution (due to the public option competing with private insurance).

I remember Alan Colmes actually tried to make that argument on the Factor the other night and Bill didn't even bat an eye at that comment. I lost every ounce of respect I had for Bill that night.

I don't see how just saying the Democrats are socialists raises the level of public discourse.

Just saying the Dems are socialists is like saying the GOP are racists, all it does is promote irrational paranoia, not civil debate.

Plus considering actually socialists don't think the Dems are socialist, how are they socialists? If Obama is a socialist, why do actual socialists criticize him and seem to get offended when someone calls Obama a socialist? Do you know more about socialism then socialists?

Socialists would have never approved of the bail outs, that against the ethos of socialism. So saying Obama is a socialist ignores the actual ethos of socialist. Socialists don't like him, because he does things that go against the ethos of socialist. The bail outs simply go against the ethos of socialist, just because something is big government doesn't make it socialist.
 
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What is your evidence of this...????

It seems alot of his audience has a problem with Obama on racial grounds..."not born here", "muslim", "not one of us". Racist=ignorant. So when a person who already has a problem with Obama hears Rushbo using coded racial language, they will more often than not gravitate towards him. His audience is 95% white, mostly men over 35. Are all of them ignorant, no. I never said they were, I just said that ignorant/intellectually lazy people like Rush, because He ACTIVELY COURTS THEM.


http://www.quantcast.com/rushlimbaugh.com
 
It seems alot of his audience has a problem with Obama on racial grounds..."not born here", "muslim", "not one of us". Racist=ignorant. So when a person who already has a problem with Obama hears Rushbo using coded racial language, they will more often than not gravitate towards him. His audience is 95% white, mostly men over 35. Are all of them ignorant, no. I never said they were, I just said that ignorant/intellectually lazy people like Rush, because He ACTIVELY COURTS THEM.


http://www.quantcast.com/rushlimbaugh.com


So because they are 95% white, men over 35 they are racist? Really?

I never said you said they were ignorant...


Do you listen to him frequently?
 
So because they are 95% white, men over 35 they are racist? Really?

I never said you said they were ignorant...


Do you listen to him frequently?

I don't think I ever said they were racist because they are white etc...I said the people who have problems based on race are racist. And yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment and listen every now and then.
 
Now see you said:

"He has the ability to make some people so angry that they speak incoherently and babble about nothing, and therefore never actually get their own ideas out there, only angry rants about him..."

Now see some people could take as a slam, that people criticize him for no reason besides unthinking rabid hatred.

If I hate the concept of infotainment, then I'm babbling about nothing, I'm talking about something I think is important.

Now that may not have being your intention, but the paragraph can make people think that it conveys that intention.



Alright fine, no real offense was taken. I wasn't really angry.



Actually, that specific quote comes from my 6x a year that I listen to Rush. I listen to his program on the way to Plano, and back, 3x a year. Summer vacation, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

I have heard on EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 6 programs, people who verbally align themselves with a liberal point of view, and they call and totally go ballistic, it is hysterical to hear, he pushes buttons better than than most, which is what I was saying. Now mind you he goes ballistic too, and that is just as entertaining to me, please do not take any of this as I agree, or listen to him regularly because I don't....but I do believe very strongly that he has every right to do what he does, as do liberals on the other side of the coin.

Now, if he came on this forum, because of the FAQs that we follow, calling names, etc....and he did that....he would get an infraction. :yay:
 
I don't think I ever said they were racist because they are white etc...I said the people who have problems based on race are racist. And yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment and listen every now and then.


It was implied in your post....

Racist=Ignorant (which I agree with incidentally)

So you brought up Racist, in terms of his listeners...to you Racism = Ignorant, which you did call his listeners, and in your facts to back up your "lazy and ignorant" statement, you show percentages of white/male/over 35. That is fairly easy to imply what you meant.
 
Ok, fine. The majority (again, NOT ALL, try and not ignore it this time) of Rush Limbaugh listeners are ignorant racists. Sure they say they have a problem with government spending, but only when a black Democrat that makes them feel stupid do they actually feel outrage. Just like the Tea Partiers. To say other wise is disengenous.
 
Again, prove that...that is a hell of a generalization.
 
Actually, that specific quote comes from my 6x a year that I listen to Rush. I listen to his program on the way to Plano, and back, 3x a year. Summer vacation, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Fair enough, but without that context someone could mis interrupt what you were saying. That's all I am saying, I'm not offended.

I have heard on EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 6 programs, people who verbally align themselves with a liberal point of view, and they call and totally go ballistic, it is hysterical to hear, he pushes buttons better than than most, which is what I was saying. Now mind you he goes ballistic too, and that is just as entertaining to me, please do not take any of this as I agree, or listen to him regularly because I don't....but I do believe very strongly that he has every right to do what he does, as do liberals on the other side of the coin.

Now, if he came on this forum, because of the FAQs that we follow, calling names, etc....and he did that....he would get an infraction. :yay:

He has the right to say whatever wants but that doesn't mean I have like him or not be appalled by the hero worship he receives. Even if I didn't support his right to free speech, it wouldn't matter, I have no power to prevent him from speaking.

He has the right to say what he wants, I don't dispute that. That doesn't change the fact I think he is morally repulsive, because of his personal behavior.

I think he's a bad person and not just because I disagree with him, I like Ron Paul even though I don't agree with him, I don't like Glenn Beck, he may be a good person. I may think him foolish and paranoid, maybe he's a good father, maybe he has good intentions. I don't know, I'm not going to judge his personal life.

I think Rush is bad person, period. He isn't even honest about his opinions, which should be basic for a standard pundit. He mocks people with Parkinson's disease and I find that appalling not because I'm a liberal, but because I have basic human empathy for people suffering from devastating. Not making fun of people with Parkinson's should not be a liberal or conservative issue, its kind of thing decent human beings should just avoid doing.

He commends people for he crimes he commits; he demands harsh punishments for drug users and goes ahead and uses drugs himself. Then when he gets caught, he uses his money and power to weasel out of the charges, what happened to tough charges for drug users, he applies rules to others, that he himself doesn't follow.

Most of why I dislike him has to do more with personal conduct conduct then anything else. I think he is a morally repulsive person and the fact that people still worship him as a hero, makes me dislike him, more then anything else about him.
 
Rush Limbaugh: Keeping MediaMatters well employed since 2004 :awesome:
 
surprised to see Rush beat Pat Robertson to the punch on "explaining" why the Iceland volcano erupted...
 
Didn't Rush say that Hippy Ninjas were beind the oil spill?

Yes. Hippy Ninjas.

I ****ing love the concept.
 
According to the AP, Rush Limbaugh announced that he will marry his girlfriend this weekend at a ceremony in Florida. (This will be his fourth marriage.)
 

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