Age of Ultron The Steve Rogers/Captain America Thread - Part 1

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Cap one one one with Ultron was like his best feat ever.
Like he legit was more capabale than Stark especially considering he was outnumbered by the drones and fighting on a moving target.
Caps intel shouldn't be mocked. Again he's the field general who puts the team in position to win.
Stark being the focal point at the end is logical. Ultron is literally his problem.
 
Cap was on point the whole movie and I love how Whedon missed with us at the end when he almost said the battle cry Avengers……

The fight between Cap vs. Ultron was sick, Cap not only held his own against him but he did with such style and strength that visually u saw a Super soldier in top form.

I love the witty banter between him and Stark.

Cap was defiantly Commander and chief no mistake about it that speech about fighting and if you die walk it off was powerful.

I love the look of the suit and the shield.
 
So, according to the last movie, Cap doesn't really want the happy ending? No relationship, no kids......
 
So, according to the last movie, Cap doesn't really want the happy ending? No relationship, no kids......

I wouldn't say that, I'd say he believe for now his purpose is best served in fighting the good fight until his time is up. I do think that if the writers do it right with Sharon Carter in Civil War, Steve might see that he can have a life and relationship and still be Captain America.
 
ACK are there untagged spoilers in here?

*ducks out again*
 
Anyone else notice how chipper Cap seemed? He came off as so much more comfortable and funny! He was a bit too serious in TA and TWS, which made sense because he just got defrosted and thrown into a strange new world.

Cap finally seems to have found his place.
 
So, according to the last movie, Cap doesn't really want the happy ending? No relationship, no kids......

I was slightly annoyed by it. It's like he simply gave up after losing Peggy. I think Steve is a lot more interesting if there is a bit of an inner struggle between not feeling happy outside of battle and wanting to have a life outside of it.
It's a lot more tragic. This only makes him uni-dimensional.

I wouldn't say that, I'd say he believe for now his purpose is best served in fighting the good fight until his time is up. I do think that if the writers do it right with Sharon Carter in Civil War, Steve might see that he can have a life and relationship and still be Captain America.

Pffff, they would have to recast Sharon and make a great job making her interesting in CW for me to buy it.
 
Spoiler Cap vs. Ultron fight,


Can I say DAMN Power boost to Cap I love it he held his own against Ultron .
 
Pffff, they would have to recast Sharon and make a great job making her interesting in CW for me to buy it.

Emily is a good actress don't kid yourself, She showed that in her tv series "Revenge". The issue is how much attention the writers put into making Sharon a suitable fit for Steve like Peggy was but at the sometime make Sharon different from her Aunt.

Sharon in the comics is a prefect fit for Steve in how she's the girlfriend but also a force to be reckoned with she doesn't need rescuing she actual can take care of herself.
 
I love how wise he is. I've never been a big Cap fan, but Chris Evans and the writing of his character have won me completely over, how he sees the big picture while never ignoring other people's perspectives.
His lines to Hill walking and getting into the lift epitomize this imo.
 
Spoiler Cap vs. Ultron fight,


Can I say DAMN Power boost to Cap I love it he held his own against Ultron .


that was one hell of a fight!! In general that was my favorite, the entire dynamic of how badass Hawkeye/BW/Cap are in that scene, is great! because they are the humans that have no special armor or weapon to fight those robots and Ultron, but they are so coordinated and work so well together!
I also think that scene of Cap going one on one against Ultron, showed how well he can fight against an armor as such, which is a hint of how it could be in CW.

talking about Evans as Cap, from Esquire

Just as sickly Steve Rogers was given a chance to become the best version of himself in Captain America: The First Avenger, so too was Chris Evans. When Evans put on the red, white, and blue outfit, he realized what we had been waiting to see. It's not just that it's a role that deviates from his past ones. It brings out the best in him. Now he, and the Captain America movies, have become the consistent high points of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Avengers: Age of Ultron is no exception. When you look in Evans' eyes now, you see him being Captain America, not trying to be. There's genuine emotion there when required (say, when he's bedside with the dementia-suffering love of his life), as is intelligence (in action mode he has the constantly roaming eyes of a military tactician).

He also embodies Cap in a more literal sense: his physical bulk. But the more impressive accomplishment is that instead of using his physique as a shortcut to onscreen presence, he fills that formidable figure with an almost physical weight of authority. An authority that tends to evoke a kind of patriarchal, Father Knows Best quality, and a compatible tone that Evans continually manages to summon from his car hood-sized chest—despite the actor only being 33 years old. (He brought a similar ahead-of-his-years gravitas to his lead turn in last year's beloved international action movie Snowpiercer.) It's always there, whether Cap is chastising his teammates for language, improvising and assigning orders, or offering ideological lectures like "This isn't freedom. This is fear" in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, or "Every time someone tries to end a war before it starts, innocent lives die" in The Avengers: Age of Ultron.

It is, however, not just Captain America's fatherly sternness that Evans performs so well. It can be difficult to get the tone of Cap right, because he's both military bravado and Boy Scout innocence; gruff tactical efficiency and Atticus Finch empathy. But Evans nails the warmth of Cap with the same timbre of sincerity and conviction. (I swear he drops his voice an octave for this role to achieve that.) That element of the role offers a natural fit for Evans' abilities. His knack for boyish humor and charm are perfect for Captain America's old-fashioned good-naturedness and the lingering insecurity of a former 98-lb weakling. He's as believable nervously asking his neighbor out as he is gently ribbing his brothers-in-arms, or doling out mid-battle gallows humor. Chris Evans' Captain America is, in other words, a role that may fluctuate in tone, but never wavers in its performance. Like Rogers, Evans brings his innate gifts to his newly acquired ones.

There's a great scene in The Winter Soldier where Captain America knows he's about to be attacked by 20 men in a moving elevator, and says, "Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?" Evans performs it convincingly with equal amounts of mild boyish glee, amused lightness, matter-of-fact resignation, chutzpah, and confident menace. It's a wonderful moment, in no small part because you realize just how much fun it's become to watch Chris Evans excel at playing (and growing with) this character. It's one of many moments in a Marvel movie that makes you realize there really was greatness in Chris Evans. Just like Steve Rogers, all it took was Captain America to draw it out.
 
My absolute favorite thing about AoU was Chris' Cap, and especially his relationship with Tony.

It actually pissed me off that
Whedon had Vision pick up Mjolnir over Cap
but that was actually the only thing about Cap's story that didn't work for me. I prefer Cap making Tony feel like a little kid, and being his buddy. Those moments between Evans and RDJ were great!

Oh and all the fighting. They kept his skills from TWS! Perfect!
 
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classic Chris :funny: i still find it so amazing that he played The Human Torch and Captain America so exceedingly well yet you'd never mistake one for the other.


Iron Man also had his one on one
and blew him apart?
And Thor. And Vision.
In fact, knowing how vibranium work, the beams (energy) should have had less effect on it than a physical blow from the same material.
I don't like how weak was Ultron's vibranium cover treated anyway. I guess they had to de-power it from the comics.

Ultron's final form in the movie isnt made of vibranium. it was the Vision body that was made of it which he was making for himself but it was taken from him.


By keeping Cap clueless most of the time (Maria Hill telling the technicalities of the twins' powers to Steve then dumbing it down for him to understand- was painful to watch) and the key plans super-tech-based, the main lead was truly Iron Man's, once again (at least in the final battle).

In the comics Cap gets intel from the tech-savvy guys and assimilate it. In the film he is directly left out.

I'm getting a sour taste about the film and I left it happy, dammit! :woot:

well who knows if Cap improves in CW. his upgrades (for lack of a better term) seems to happen in his movies. the dumbing down of terminologies is for levity but also for the fact that regular movie goers needs to have jargon translated. sad reality my friend.


talking about Evans as Cap, from Esquire
thats an excellent article :up: finally someone writes well of Evans. not that im complaining but RDJ gets all the good press and it looks like he's carrying all the heavy lifting (which is hardly the case, half the time its not even him in the armour, its his stuntman or a CG creation). Evans anchors the movies and bears the heart of the Avengers team. you take that away. take himj away and we're left with drama queens.
 
Evans scaring Scarlett while on the Ellen Degeneres Show on Thursday.

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Ultron's final form in the movie isnt made of vibranium. it was the Vision body that was made of it which he was making for himself but it was taken from him.

Tony implied his final body was upgraded with vibranium. Plus Ultron was seen near his vibranium reserves prior to his upgrade.
It wasn't made very obvious but the hints were strong.
They took his first vibranium body (Vision) away from him and he made a replacement.
 
That's an amazing write-up on Chris as Steve. I absolutely agree with it.
 
Cap was still badass from TWS :) thanks weldon for keeping cap badass
 
Tony implied his final body was upgraded with vibranium. Plus Ultron was seen near his vibranium reserves prior to his upgrade.
It wasn't made very obvious but the hints were strong.
They took his first vibranium body (Vision) away from him and he made a replacement.

yep that's why when he beat the crap out of Thor you heard the Vibranium noise.
 
talking about Evans as Cap, from Esquire

Just as sickly Steve Rogers was given a chance to become the best version of himself in Captain America: The First Avenger, so too was Chris Evans. When Evans put on the red, white, and blue outfit, he realized what we had been waiting to see. It's not just that it's a role that deviates from his past ones. It brings out the best in him. Now he, and the Captain America movies, have become the consistent high points of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Avengers: Age of Ultron is no exception. When you look in Evans' eyes now, you see him being Captain America, not trying to be. There's genuine emotion there when required (say, when he's bedside with the dementia-suffering love of his life), as is intelligence (in action mode he has the constantly roaming eyes of a military tactician).

He also embodies Cap in a more literal sense: his physical bulk. But the more impressive accomplishment is that instead of using his physique as a shortcut to onscreen presence, he fills that formidable figure with an almost physical weight of authority. An authority that tends to evoke a kind of patriarchal, Father Knows Best quality, and a compatible tone that Evans continually manages to summon from his car hood-sized chest—despite the actor only being 33 years old. (He brought a similar ahead-of-his-years gravitas to his lead turn in last year's beloved international action movie Snowpiercer.) It's always there, whether Cap is chastising his teammates for language, improvising and assigning orders, or offering ideological lectures like "This isn't freedom. This is fear" in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, or "Every time someone tries to end a war before it starts, innocent lives die" in The Avengers: Age of Ultron.

It is, however, not just Captain America's fatherly sternness that Evans performs so well. It can be difficult to get the tone of Cap right, because he's both military bravado and Boy Scout innocence; gruff tactical efficiency and Atticus Finch empathy. But Evans nails the warmth of Cap with the same timbre of sincerity and conviction. (I swear he drops his voice an octave for this role to achieve that.) That element of the role offers a natural fit for Evans' abilities. His knack for boyish humor and charm are perfect for Captain America's old-fashioned good-naturedness and the lingering insecurity of a former 98-lb weakling. He's as believable nervously asking his neighbor out as he is gently ribbing his brothers-in-arms, or doling out mid-battle gallows humor. Chris Evans' Captain America is, in other words, a role that may fluctuate in tone, but never wavers in its performance. Like Rogers, Evans brings his innate gifts to his newly acquired ones.

There's a great scene in The Winter Soldier where Captain America knows he's about to be attacked by 20 men in a moving elevator, and says, "Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?" Evans performs it convincingly with equal amounts of mild boyish glee, amused lightness, matter-of-fact resignation, chutzpah, and confident menace. It's a wonderful moment, in no small part because you realize just how much fun it's become to watch Chris Evans excel at playing (and growing with) this character. It's one of many moments in a Marvel movie that makes you realize there really was greatness in Chris Evans. Just like Steve Rogers, all it took was Captain America to draw it out.

Fantastic article, :jd:
 
Pffff, they would have to recast Sharon and make a great job making her interesting in CW for me to buy it.

I wish they would dump the whole Sharon thing, because it's just icky. I really think they should just leave the relationships for Steve out of the MCU. Face it, he's like the ultimate good guy for us, and no matter what, no girl is going to be good enough for our Cap. But, if they do decide to go this route, I think they should just create a new character, someone not part of Shield or the Avengers, someone with no ties to Cap's past.

classic Chris :funny: i still find it so amazing that he played The Human Torch and Captain America so exceedingly well yet you'd never mistake one for the other.
Yeah. Amazing. Actors like Christoph Waltz (who I do love, make no mistake) and Daniel Day Lewis accumulate oscar awards and praises, for pretty much playing the same characters througout their careers, but little Chris Evans doesn't even get so much as a nod, despite playing several character arcs, exceptionally well. I wonder if we will ever see Chris Evans star on the Hollywood Walk of fame? I mean, Jim Parsons has one, for playing the same damn character in the same show for less than a decade, but not Evans?
 
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Yeah. Amazing. Actors like Christoph Waltz (who I do love, make no mistake) and Daniel Day Lewis accumulate oscar awards and praises, for pretty much playing the same characters througout their careers, but little Chris Evans doesn't even get so much as a nod, despite playing several character arcs, exceptionally well. I wonder if we will ever see Chris Evans star on the Hollywood Walk of fame? I mean, Jim Parsons has one, for playing the same damn character in the same show for less than a decade, but not Evans?

I like Waltz, he is really talented, but he plays himself in movies and I think he needs the writing and directing of Tarantino to make him shine; directors and their edition teams, are the ones that can make wonders with the actors´ performances. DDL is more of a character actor, I like that he gets into a character, but yeah, Evans has done many films, in the Iceman he is unrecognizable, and in Snowpiercer he is fantastic. But the two roles people have seen him the most, were two Marvel superheros, and he played them both so differently and so good, yet of course he won´t get an award, because CB movies hardly get FX or sound effect or make up.
 
He was much more effective and commanding here as a leader than in the first film. I liked how he was portrayed. This film definitely planted the seeds for Civil War and you can kind of see where they will go
 
It's a small detail but I really appreciated how he landed on his feet after being knocked into the air by Pietro in the opening.
 
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