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"In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Cavill) is a young twentysomething journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond anyone's imagination. Transported to Earth years ago from Krypton, an advanced alien planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question - Why am I here? Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Costner), Clark soon discovers that having super abilities means making very difficult decisions. But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as "Superman," not only to shine as the world's last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves."

No thanks......not my Superman.
 
God, that all sounds brilliant. Add Zod to that and you have a great first movie. I definitely see what Nolan saw in the idea when he got it pitched to him.
 
"In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Cavill) is a young twentysomething journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond anyone's imagination. Transported to Earth years ago from Krypton, an advanced alien planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question - Why am I here? Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Costner), Clark soon discovers that having super abilities means making very difficult decisions. But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as "Superman," not only to shine as the world's last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves."

No thanks......not my Superman.

Just because it's not your Superman doesn't mean it can't be good. I mean really, with any director attached to any comic book hero, will it really be "Yours" from the comics anyway? Sure there could be a lot of elements from the comics carried over that you prefer, but will the whole thing be exactly? Not completely. In the case with Superman, there seem to be a lot of interpretations of him over the years, and elements that people what they cal theirs. There's really no sense of ownership when waiting for these comic book films. Because the director will not always take what is yours.
 
Just because it's not your Superman doesn't mean it can't be good. I mean really, with any director attached to any comic book hero, will it really be "Yours" from the comics anyway? Sure there could be a lot of elements from the comics carried over that you prefer, but will the whole thing be exactly? Not completely. In the case with Superman, there seem to be a lot of interpretations of him over the years, and elements that people what they cal theirs. There's really no sense of ownership when waiting for these comic book films. Because the director will not always take what is yours.

No judgement/opinion re. the film's quality, obviously that's impossible until it's released, but the personality traits in that synopsis are not the character I grew up with. That's all.
 
Dark Horizons noticed something about this synopsis. That it's in part word-for-word the same one leaked to another site way back in April.

http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/

That one goes on further though...

General Sam Lane, the father of Lois Lane, is a central figure in director Zack Snyder’s Superman reboot. This really is as Zack described in several interviews about the film, a “real world” Superman. I’m told that when Superman arrives on the scene; people don’t know what to think. He’s an alien from another planet. What are his real intentions? He’s not human and that scares a lot of people. Here’s a guy who can fly, see through walls, is bullet proof and can lift a tank. The military views him as a potential threat to national security. They find kryptonite, pieces of his home planet, and discover its radioactive elements can be harnessed as a near unlimited source of power, both literally and figuratively. It’s a brand new form of energy that is secretly developed by the government. The military, under the direction of General Sam Lane, uses kryptonite to power an experimental cyborg super solider named Metallo. He’s ultimately exploited as a weapon against Superman.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/21520/-man-of-steel-synopsis-reveals-story-details
 
No judgement/opinion re. the film's quality, obviously that's impossible until it's released, but the personality traits in that synopsis are not the character I grew up with. That's all.

Well I hope you keep an open mind about it when you see it.
 
"In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Cavill) is a young twentysomething journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond anyone's imagination. Transported to Earth years ago from Krypton, an advanced alien planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question - Why am I here? Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Costner), Clark soon discovers that having super abilities means making very difficult decisions. But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as "Superman," not only to shine as the world's last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves."

No thanks......not my Superman.
He's an 80 year old character, the interpretations will change with the times. There's no way a Superman like Chris Reeve's would "fly" in today's world. As much as I loved that interpretation he's way too cheesy of a character. They need an interpretation for modern times that is relatable to the GA, this sounds just like what is needed. It really has an Earth One feel to it based on this.
 
He's an 80 year old character, the interpretations will change with the times. There's no way a Superman like Chris Reeve's would "fly" in today's world. As much as I loved that interpretation he's way too cheesy of a character. They need an interpretation for modern times that is relatable to the GA, this sounds just like what is needed. It really has an Earth One feel to it based on this.

I agree, it's time to move on and hopefully it's in the direction of Earth One.
 
"In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Cavill) is a young twentysomething journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond anyone's imagination. Transported to Earth years ago from Krypton, an advanced alien planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question - Why am I here? Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Costner), Clark soon discovers that having super abilities means making very difficult decisions. But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as "Superman," not only to shine as the world's last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves."

Sounds like a strong synopsis. And as I've mentioned before, Zod is the ideal villain for a story about Superman torn between his alien heritage and his human upbringing. If his arc is feeling lost and unable to fit in with this world, Zod and his minions represent potential kindred spirits for him, and the appeal of being with people like himself. Choosing to stand against them when their world-conquering ambitions become clear, and in turn finding his place in the world as Superman, should give Clark Kent a meaty arc over the course of the film.
 
Also, to the person saying this isn't their Superman, this approach should hardly be a surprise. Way back months ago, in his foreword to Superman: Secret Origin, David Goyer talked about how young Clark's line to his father in that story, "I don't want to be special, I want to be you son", served as a major launching point for his own characterisation of Clark in his script. And the idea of a Superman torn between his humanity and his alien nature is hardly one that's been pulled out of left-field in recent years.
 
Dark Horizons noticed something about this synopsis. That it's in part word-for-word the same one leaked to another site way back in April.

http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/

That one goes on further though...

General Sam Lane, the father of Lois Lane, is a central figure in director Zack Snyder’s Superman reboot. This really is as Zack described in several interviews about the film, a “real world” Superman. I’m told that when Superman arrives on the scene; people don’t know what to think. He’s an alien from another planet. What are his real intentions? He’s not human and that scares a lot of people. Here’s a guy who can fly, see through walls, is bullet proof and can lift a tank. The military views him as a potential threat to national security. They find kryptonite, pieces of his home planet, and discover its radioactive elements can be harnessed as a near unlimited source of power, both literally and figuratively. It’s a brand new form of energy that is secretly developed by the government. The military, under the direction of General Sam Lane, uses kryptonite to power an experimental cyborg super solider named Metallo. He’s ultimately exploited as a weapon against Superman.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/21520/-man-of-steel-synopsis-reveals-story-details
The "problem" is, neither Metallo nor Lane have been announced or even rumored in the most recent stages of production. With Zod and Faora already confirmed, it's a little doubtful that portion of the synopsis is even true at this point.
 
Also, to the person saying this isn't their Superman, this approach should hardly be a surprise. Way back months ago, in his foreword to Superman: Secret Origin, David Goyer talked about how young Clark's line to his father in that story, "I don't want to be special, I want to be you son", served as a major launching point for his own characterisation of Clark in his script. And the idea of a Superman torn between his humanity and his alien nature is hardly one that's been pulled out of left-field in recent years.

It's not a surprise....more a disappointment. I want my Superman to be a larger than life action hero, and not a tortured soul, searching outside of himself for identity, purpose and direction.


jedi42 said:
He's an 80 year old character, the interpretations will change with the times. There's no way a Superman like Chris Reeve's would "fly" in today's world. As much as I loved that interpretation he's way too cheesy of a character.

He's a bit younger than 80, but rounding up makes this point even better.
S:TM is 33 years old. There was 40 years of interpreting the character prior to that.
To clarify my preference........George Reeves Superman; is my Superman.
 
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It's not a surprise....more a disappointment. I want my Superman to be a larger than life action hero, and not a tortured soul, searching outside of himself for identity, purpose and direction.
This is the origin of Superman. I'm sure he will be that by the end of the movie. This is what is called a character arc :rolleyes:
 
Dark Horizons noticed something about this synopsis. That it's in part word-for-word the same one leaked to another site way back in April.

http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/

That one goes on further though...



http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/21520/-man-of-steel-synopsis-reveals-story-details
This is fake, obviously, or maybe they changed Lane's character with Swannwick or Colonel Hardy. Maybe Hardy is Metallo but i doubt it. Dont think this movie is going to have more villains besides Zod and Faora.
 
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It's not a surprise....more a disappointment. I want my Superman to be a larger than life action hero, and not a tortured soul, searching outside of himself for identity, purpose and direction.

This is the origin of Superman. I'm sure he will be that by the end of the movie. This is what is called a character arc :rolleyes:

Well said, Daniel. Just making him the grinning can-do action hero who punches stuff plays into the (in my opinion, inaccurate and unfair) stereotype that many people - even many comic fans - have about Superman: that he's not an interesting character, that he's just an all-powerful lug with no vulnerability - physical or otherwise - and thus with no human interest or drama to make him interesting.

If Man of Steel is to succeed, one of its biggest hurdles will be to break that perception. It has to get to the humanity of Clark Kent and what drives him to be Superman, the same way that Batman Begins struck gold by getting to the humanity of Bruce Wayne and what drives him to be Batman.
 
Well said, Daniel. Just making him the grinning can-do action hero who punches stuff plays into the (in my opinion, inaccurate and unfair) stereotype that many people - even many comic fans - have about Superman: that he's not an interesting character, that he's just an all-powerful lug with no vulnerability - physical or otherwise - and thus with no human interest or drama to make him interesting.

If Man of Steel is to succeed, one of its biggest hurdles will be to break that perception. It has to get to the humanity of Clark Kent and what drives him to be Superman, the same way that Batman Begins struck gold by getting to the humanity of Bruce Wayne and what drives him to be Batman.


I am taking some liberties here, as we do not have a full synopsis. I want to preface my comments with that.

BUT based on what I know about Snyder and Nolan's style and recurring themes, the wording of the synopsis and the source material, I could see a heavy part of act 2 involving Zod becoming a mentor to Superman (who doesn't know his true intentions/history) and eventually trying to corrupt Kal-El under the guise of becoming "benevolent dictators," to Earth. There have been several elseworld stories about Superman becoming the ruler of Earth with good intentions (only to have it go horribly wrong) and like I said, those types of stories fit Nolan and Snyder to a T.

If I am right, I'd imagine that it will make up a good portion of the character's arc and development. That being said, if I'm right (I'm not sure that I am, but if)....I'm not too enthused as it just reaffirms what I have believed all along: Snyder and Nolan are not right thematically for Superman. They are too dark and gritty (which I know are words that cause fan-gasms now-a-days, but some characters just don't need that treatment). Superman needs to be made more human on screen, but that isn't the way to accomplish it.
 
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So basically what we have here with the official synopsis is a mix of Secret Origin and Birthright, with a mix of Zod. Am I right?

If so, I'm down for it....
 
I am taking some liberties here, as we do not have a full synopsis. I want to preface my comments with that.

BUT based on why I know about Snyder and Nolan's style and recurring themes, the wording of the synopsis and the source material, I could see a heavy part of act 2 involving Zod becoming a mentor to Superman (who doesn't know his true intentions/history) and eventually trying to corrupt Kal-El under the guise of becoming "benevolent dictators," to Earth. There have been several elseworld stories about Superman becoming the ruler of Earth with good intentions (only to have it go horribly wrong) and like I said, those types of stories fit Nolan and Snyder to a T.

If I am right, I'd imagine that it will make up a good portion of the character's arc and development. That being said, if I'm right (I'm not sure that I am, but if)....I'm not too enthused as it just reaffirms what I have believed all along: Snyder and Nolan are not right thematically for Superman. They are too dark and gritty (which I know are words that cause fan-gasms now-a-days, but some characters just don't need that treatment). Superman needs to be made more human on screen, but that isn't the way to accomplish it.

Hasn't this been visited in the trades somewhere as well? I'm drawing a blank....AS Superman maybe?
 
hmmmmm........this is the first I have heard of Metallo being in the movie. Not sure how I feel about it, because Zod is big enough of a villian that he can carry a film alone. However, perhaps Metallo is the Scarecrow to Zod's Ras Al Ghul. If so, this will be Metallo in name only. No John Corben, instead it will be Christopher Meloni's Colonel Hardy. Just a hunch. Maybe the Hardy part is BS and it's Colonel Corben.

I'm not saying.....I'm just saying!
 
I heard about Metallo a while back...would be cool if they set him up as villain in the sequel
 
I heard about Metallo a while back...would be cool if they set him up as villain in the sequel

Agreed....

Even after Superman proves himself to Earth, after Zod's path of destruction the military decides that they need a fail safe if Superman were to ever turn into a tyrant or more Kryptonians showed up. So they take Kryptonite to LexCorp so it's power can be turned into a weapon.

But even if not, I have gotten to a point that I believe if done correctly, Bizzaro can make a much better pawn for Lex to use against Superman. Bizzaro could be a very tragic story and place an emphasis on the bruta, cold nature of Luthor.
 
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