The Story.

[Rodrigo90]

i dont think he set out to be a symbol of inspiration. that effect was unforeseen. i think thats something he recognized after the fact but embraced as part of his responsibility.

but he set out to help people by using his super powers. its going to be revealed that he's an alien, one from krypton. he wears the suit to represent and honor that heritage.

but regardless, whatever it is that inspires him to do this i think should be born from something positive, rather than something negative.

Clark should already want to be a hero from an early age, without any tragic motivation. It should be born from his upbringing, his empathy for people, and most importantly, his humanity.

 

[kal-elrebooted]

Clark should already want to be a hero from an early age, without any tragic motivation. It should be born from his upbringing, his empathy for people, and most importantly, his humanity.

Exactly

 

[Motown Marvel]

Clark should already want to be a hero from an early age, without any tragic motivation. It should be born from his upbringing, his empathy for people, and most importantly, his humanity.

yeah im in total agreement with that....(thats what i've been saying).

 

[hopefuldreamer]

i dont think he set out to be a symbol of inspiration. that effect was unforeseen. i think thats something he recognized after the fact but embraced as part of his responsibility.

but he set out to help people by using his super powers. its going to be revealed that he's an alien, one from krypton. he wears the suit to represent and honor that heritage.

but regardless, whatever it is that inspires him to do this i think should be born from something positive, rather than something negative.

This is where I loved what they did in Birthright - it combined all the aspects together really. He wants to make a suit so that he doesn't have to hide anymore, and he does model it on what the 'tablet' shows him kryptonian garb is like, but it's his idea, his choice of colours, his decision to create a new persona by wearing a costume.

And looking at the storyline as a whole, is why I can see that you can have something bad happen... but still not have negativity be the decision maker.

After Kobe's death, he says:

'Something happened in Africe, something pretty awful. But for a minute - just one minute, and for the first time - I got called upon to give my all. To have purpose. Like I was finally part of something, rather than standing alone on the sidelines. Like I was connected to the world. And man, I want to feel that way again. That means no more running from who I really am.

I really like that.

You can show how something shocking and dramatic brings out the confidence and direction needed to become the hero he's wanted to be his whole life, without it being 'Somebody died because I wasn't strong enough, woe is me, i'd best dedicate my life to saving people now so it never happens again because I feel so guilty and grief ridden'.

 

[8wid]

I sort of like the approach that Superman IV took towards combatting nuclear weapons. Why can't supes stop Global Warming or a sudden break out of nuclear war from happening, especially if it is provoked by a being such as Brainiac or Mongul? Battling a catalyst in the weather should be able to get man to think about it.

 

[Rust]

Clark should already want to be a hero from an early age, without any tragic motivation. It should be born from his upbringing, his empathy for people, and most importantly, his humanity.

I disagree, so I think what you meant to say was that Clark want to help people from an early age, not be a hero. That sounds kinda narcissistic/egotistic. You cant make yourself a hero. That's only something others can make you. You do good deeds and people will call you a hero. You know?

 

[KrypJonian]

After Kobe's death, he says:

'Something happened in Africe, something pretty awful. But for a minute - just one minute, and for the first time - I got called upon to give my all. To have purpose. Like I was finally part of something, rather than standing alone on the sidelines. Like I was connected to the world. And man, I want to feel that way again. That means no more running from who I really am.

That is awesome... that's a fully good reason for him to dedicate his life to saving others...

That or something like it, would be an awesome speech. Like in SR when he flies Lois up and tells her about about all the people crying for a savior...

 

[KrypJonian]

I disagree, so I think what you meant to say was that Clark want to help people from an early age, not be a hero. That sounds kinda narcissistic/egotistic. You cant make yourself a hero. That's only something others can make you. You do good deeds and people will call you a hero. You know?

I'm not sure where this would place me... But as a child of 10 or so (born in 82) I used to ride my bike with my broomstick (Bo Staff) and my cape, and follow the sounds of sirens, hoping I could help catch some criminal... All thanks to being raised on Superman...

Obviously, I couldn't, I was no vigilante or life saver, but if I had special powers...

Imagine if Clark was raised on the Justice Society and what he might do...

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I disagree, so I think what you meant to say was that Clark want to help people from an early age, not be a hero. That sounds kinda narcissistic/egotistic. You cant make yourself a hero. That's only something others can make you. You do good deeds and people will call you a hero. You know?

Well I guess that's the fine line here isn't it.

If he is aware when he comes up with the costume that he is creating a 'symbol' for people to look up to, then he IS deciding to become a hero, not just deciding to help people.

It all depends on how they write it really.

I'm fine with either way actually. I don't think it makes him look egotistic. It'll come across the same as Batman (though hopefully not written EXACTLY the same Goyer ), except instead of being a symbol of fear, he's making himself into a symbol of hope.

 

[Rust]

Ok, so you're talking about heroism as an inspiration. I was merely refering to Clark the boy who I reckon wasnt mature enough to think like that.
But yeah, the two terms very much go hand-in-hand.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I disagree, so I think what you meant to say was that Clark want to help people from an early age, not be a hero. That sounds kinda narcissistic/egotistic. You cant make yourself a hero. That's only something others can make you. You do good deeds and people will call you a hero. You know?

Not want to be Superman at an early age, but want to be a hero so he can help people. I think that could stem from his upbringing and helping the Kents on the farm.

I was like that at an early age, wanting to be a hero. Its not to get love or recognition by all means, but a job that helps people and puts criminals in their proper place - jail. Thats the type of kid I think Clark should be like. Its also inspirational for anyone who watches it, where you have people thinking "I wish I was more like him" and "I want to raise my kid like that"

Clark should be the perfect example of a good and decent human being...the irony t:

And I read stuff like "He only becomes Suprrman because he's good? Thats boring"

Its not boring, anyone can be good or bad, but its never shown enough the reason behind being good. You can create an interesting story behind the good motivation, which becomes Superman eventually.

But the way I see it really, Clark's good and heroic nature should be presnt before even thinking of becoming Superman. His powers should only be second to the person he is. Without the powers, he might have become a cop (which he pondered over originally) or a fireman, or a doctor. Maybe not even thinking of being a hero, but just being one because of his good nature.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Not want to be Superman at an early age, but want to be a hero so he can help people. I think that could stem from his upbringing and helping the Kents on the farm.

I was like that at an early age, wanting to be a hero. Its not to get love or recognition by all means, but a job that helps people and puts criminals in their proper place - jail. Thats the type of kid I think Clark should be like. Its also inspirational for anyone who watches it, where you have people thinking "I wish I was more like him" and "I want to raise my kid like that"

Clark should be the perfect example of a good and decent human being...the irony t:

And I read stuff like "He only becomes Suprrman because he's good? Thats boring"

Its not boring, anyone can be good or bad, but its never shown enough the reason behind being good. You can create an interesting story behind the good motivation, which becomes Superman eventually.

But the way I see it really, Clark's good and heroic nature should be presnt before even thinking of becoming Superman. His powers should only be second to the person he is. Without the powers, he might have become a cop (which he pondered over originally) or a fireman, or a doctor. Maybe not even thinking of being a hero, but just being one because of his good nature.

I'd love that. I doubt they will play it that way, but i'd love it.

For some reason, it's considered more cool too explore the sacrifices of being a hero, the harships, the responsibility...

It makes it look like majority of superheroes out there don't want to be a hero, but end up becoming one as a side effect of selfish reaons or tragedy.

That's never been Clark Kent to me.

I agree, he's naturally heroic. Always has been.

That's what makes him someone to look up to IMO, more than any Superhero. Because he's not a hero by circumstance, he's just born that way. Powers or no powers.

Creating the persona of Superman takes inspiration for him IMO. But being heroic doesn't.

 

[Motown Marvel]

I disagree, so I think what you meant to say was that Clark want to help people from an early age, not be a hero. That sounds kinda narcissistic/egotistic. You cant make yourself a hero. That's only something others can make you. You do good deeds and people will call you a hero. You know?

i dont think he would set out to be a "hero", or at least thats not the word he would use. he just wants to help people. but undeniably, his actions are what the public would perceive to be a hero. and i think that was obviously the point of Rodrigo's post, all semantics aside.

 

[Cats]

I'd like to see it explained in a logical way how Clark, I assume who grew up without glasses and has been recognized that way by small town folk during his formative years, can transition to his internationally recognized non-masked Superman alter ego without getting pointed out by anyone living in Smallville. And I wouldn't accept that people in Smallville don't read the news or don't own a telly.

I'd also love to see an explanation as to why fragments of Kal El's home planet can be so lethal to him.

After Nolan did so well with believable reality in his Batman series, I hope some of his influence rubs off on Zack Synder's crew. Given that it's a stretch to believe in an alien from a now defunct planet with superhuman strength and lasers coming out of his eyes, I still hope they give both the character and its audience enough respect to develop the character of Clark Kent with much greater depth than ever before, before leaping into the action sequences.

And I too agree there should be a definite distinction that makes Superman different from the other super heroes that we've seen. Not born out of guilt or grief, but from plain kindness and good upbringing. I'd like to see the influence Johnathan and Martha Kent have over him, and what might've happened if Clark had landed on anyone else's doorstep. I believe that's finally what stems Superman's sense of morals and life's convictions, and sets him apart from the rest.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I'd like to see it explained in a logical way how Clark, I assume who grew up without glasses and has been recognized that way by small town folk during his formative years, can transition to his internationally recognized non-masked Superman alter ego without getting pointed out by anyone living in Smallville. And I wouldn't accept that people in Smallville don't read the news or don't own a telly.

Well the only believable way around that is have had him wearing glasses for most of his life. Like, as soon as they discover he has powers and is going to have trouble not standing out like a sore thumb, they stop him from doing sports, and they decide it's best if he wears glasses because it changes people's perceptions of you (geek etc).

 

[Rodrigo90]

The glasses is to throw off the people of Metropolis into thinking he's Superman. The curl in his hair is throw off the people in Smallville.

SV Townsy
"If Superman didn't have that curl on his forehead, I'd swear it was...Christopher Reeve"

SV Townsy 2
"Are you kidding? He looks more like Brandon Routh, I bet its him"

SV Townsy 3
"No way. I bet Superman is Tom Welling, you can totally tell"

SV Townsy 4
"...I think its Clark Kent"

SV Townsies 1, 2 and 3
"**** OFF!!!"

 

[hopefuldreamer]

The glasses is to throw off the people of Metropolis into thinking he's Superman. The curl in his hair is throw off the people in Smallville.

SV Townsy
"If Superman didn't have that curl on his forehead, I'd swear it was...Christopher Reeve"

SV Townsy 2
"Are you kidding? He looks more like Brandon Routh, I bet its him"

SV Townsy 3
"No way. I bet Superman is Tom Welling, you can totally tell"

SV Townsy 4
"...I think its Clark Kent"

SV Townsies 1, 2 and 3
"**** OFF!!!"

Yeah, cause a curl once fell down on my friends forehead and I was like 'OMG, where did he go, and who is this guy?'

 

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah, cause a curl once fell down on my friends forehead and I was like 'OMG, where did he go, and who is this guy?'

I know, how about the town of Smallville gets blown away in the tornado, and nobody survives?

"They found old Dorothy Gale hundred miles away"

"Hundred miles away? Jesus"

"I think she was on her way to Oz"

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I know, how about the town of Smallville gets blown away in the tornado, and nobody survives?

"They found old Dorothy Gale hundred miles away"

"Hundred miles away? Jesus"

"I think she was on her way to Oz"

Yeah but then we've got the 'my entire home town was blown away in a tornado killing everyone in it, and I only saved Lana/Pete/My Parents' guilt for the rest of the story

Let me think... Ummm... He's just one those kids who always wore sunglasses and a hat with a hoodie over the top?

 

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah but then we've got the 'my entire home town was blown away in a tornado killing everyone in it, and I only saved Lana/Pete/My Parents' guilt for the rest of the story

Let me think... Ummm... He's just one those kids who always wore sunglasses and a hat with a hoodie over the top?

"All those I can do. All those powers...AND WHY GOD COULDN'T I SAVE THE TEN PEOPLE OF SMALLVILE? WHHHHHHHY?!"

Emo Clark. Us fans whould skin Sam Raimi for introducing the concept

 

[Rodrigo90]

Another explanation for the glasses as a teenager, could do with the fact he has unusual bright blue eyes, and wants to hide them.

You could even create Clark having a fear of being discovered for being 'different', and the eyes are a giveaway, even creating a story where he says
"I dont want people to look at me like I'm a freak"

But of course when he starts preparing to become Superman, he gets over that.

Or the Kent's could be the ones that tell him to wear glasses, because its their fear. Which would be understandable.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Or the Kent's could be the ones that tell him to wear glasses, because its their fear. Which would be understandable.

Yeah that's basically what I was saying before.

They know he's an alien, and figure the best way to keep him safe is to keep him 'forgettable', someone you wouldn't look twice at. He's afraid, they are afraid, and it all facilitates the idea he's been hiding his whole life - glasses included.

 

[Young Superman]

Do we know who the villain in Man of Steel is yet?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Michael Shannon has been cast as Zod.

Pretty sure that's the main villain.

 

[Young Superman]

Thanks