The Strongest In The Marvel Universe?

[DACMAN]

honestly I wouldent mind much if hulk said "ok juggs,I cant beat you into a pulp or even close to a pulp,I probably cant even break your nose so im walking away" and did what he did id be ok because he stopped him in his path.

He did stop him! HA! I love it!

Who can stop the Juggernaut?

THE HULK!

 

[CBG]

I wonder if Cain will finally utilize more of the Ruby's powers. . .

 

[Spade]

There's also the earlier "Dr. Strange can kill Hulk at the cost of his soul".

Strange already did that. Remember how he and many others have said that releasing Zom was the equivalent of losing his soul? He was desperate when he made himself a host for the demon, and even then Hulk humbled him big time. So Strange really doesn't have anything else to add.

It's not impossible to say that- unless he sends him to another world- the Hulk is capable of surviving anything Strange has to offer even as Sorceror Supreme. Bruce may never reach that level again, but WWH proves that he can beat him.

 

[Vanguard07]

Herc threw the first punch.

No he didnt. Read it again. Herc blocked Hulk's attack and countered with an uppercut. Then when Hulk got up (after a few seconds of being layed the **** out) Herc fully told him he wasnt gonna fight him. Took the best that the Hulk had while doing nothing more than attempt to explain to him that they only wanted to help him. Hulk eventually stopped on his own when he realized that he was being ******ed.

Admittedly Herc did pass out right afterwards but it doesnt change the fact that Herc is infinitely more awesome than the Hulk.

 

[Phenomenal]

Actually, it is more or less. What you're advertising is suspension of belief (or was it disbelief?

I am not "advertising" anything, I am simply telling you stop applying heavy physics to a comic book.

It is if evidence says otherwise.

Just Like Galactus SUPPOSED Solar System destroying power? Again your using a double standard.

Actually, it's the universe in-between the spaces of atoms (or was it molecules?), if I remember it correctly. Created by the Makers?

It's a microverse which means small.

They're the ones advertising it.

And what the author says > what CBG says.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Strange already did that. Remember how he and many others have said that releasing Zom was the equivalent of losing his soul? He was desperate when he made himself a host for the demon, and even then Hulk humbled him big time. So Strange really doesn't have anything else to add.

It's not impossible to say that- unless he sends him to another world- the Hulk is capable of surviving anything Strange has to offer even as Sorceror Supreme. Bruce may never reach that level again, but WWH proves that he can beat him.

One, that Zom empowerment definitely wasn't like even half power Zom, as Zom's mere existance pushed the Living Tribunal into planetary destruction mode, as to seal him originally, gods of the magic world had to work together, including Dormammu. So using his essence super powered him, but nothing I would say to super cosmic levels. THOUGH, any essence of Zom should create problems for just about anyway, but we don't know how much power he channelled. What we DO know for sure, is that this invocation allowed him to lay the loving SMACK DOWN on the Hulk, until Strange voluntarily powered down.

I am not "advertising" anything, I am simply telling you stop applying heavy physics to a comic book.




Just Like Galactus SUPPOSED Solar System destroying power? Again your using a double standard.



It's a microverse which means small.



And what the author says > what CBG says.

Actually, it wasn't supposed about Galactus. Galactus flat out wiped OUT those three solar systems, and most of the Annihilation wave with it, which led to the Annihilation wave actually signing a treaty with the Kree, now that they were so reduced, the Kree could probably stomp them.

 

[Zenien]

Strange already did that. Remember how he and many others have said that releasing Zom was the equivalent of losing his soul? He was desperate when he made himself a host for the demon, and even then Hulk humbled him big time. So Strange really doesn't have anything else to add.

It's not impossible to say that- unless he sends him to another world- the Hulk is capable of surviving anything Strange has to offer even as Sorceror Supreme. Bruce may never reach that level again, but WWH proves that he can beat him.

You have to realize that Hulk took advantage of Stranges wish to resolve the situation peacefully, and crippled him, and the majority of his ability to use his magic. The Hulk didn't fight Doctor Strange proper, who could vanish him him into the sun if he was so inclined.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Strange could have simply snatched Hulk's astral form out of his body and imprisoned it on the astral plane. On the astral plane Hulk is no stronger than an ordinary human because all his strength is in his physical body.

 

[X]

Dr. Strange has also beaten the Hulk a half dozen times, so it really doesn't matter.

Sadly, none of these were during high publicized events, so fanboys get to play the eyes shut ears plugged game.

He's flat out KO'ed The Hulk.

Banished the Mindless Hulk.

Imprisoned the Savage Hulk.

Turned The Hulk back into Banner.

 

[X]

Also, it's doubtful that Strange was channeling any more of Zom's powers than any high end magical deieties bestow to magic users channeling their powers.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Also, it's doubtful that Strange was channeling any more of Zom's powers than any high end magical deieties bestow to magic users channeling their powers.

I'm sure there was more than that, as Strange has done stuff like this before. But in all truth, there's NO WAY he was channeling even a quarter of Zom, without having the Living Tribunal show up again.

 

[CBG]

I am not "advertising" anything, I am simply telling you stop applying heavy physics to a comic book.

It's also common sense.

Just Like Galactus SUPPOSED Solar System destroying power? Again your using a double standard.

He is star system destroying power.

It's a microverse which means small.

Whether molecular smaller, or smaller -- atom --, I can't remember.

And what the author says > what CBG says.

Indulged in hyperbole as hard evidence says.

 

[PemLam]

Not a big Hulk fan (actually can't stand him) but gotta give him credit for being able to stand toe to toe and trade blows with someone supposedly as strong as the Sentry. Can't/won't say who would've won had the fight continued but I'll give credit where it's due.

Now I'm gonna go into the bathroom and gargle with antifreeze for even remotely acknowledging any Hulk feats.

 

[DACMAN]

You might want to try and drink a little.

 

[shapeshifter]

this thread goes no where.
i wish we could just agree on something, but nope

 

[DACMAN]

The HULK won. He beat everyone. How can we not agree on that? He did things people here eariler said he couldn't. He fought off Prof. X's mind attack, he stopped Jugg head, he beat the Sentry. It isn't hard.

 

[bkhedr]

The HULK won. He beat everyone. How can we not agree on that? He did things people here eariler said he couldn't. He fought off Prof. X's mind attack, he stopped Jugg head, he beat the Sentry. It isn't hard.

Hulk stalemated Senty, Banner beat Reynolds.

Hulk failed to overpower Juggs. Juggs stood toe to toe with him and Hulk couldn't put him down or even hurt him.

Hulk crippled Doc Strange after making him believe he was going to stop fighting. If he hadn't done that (dirty pool) Doc could have just turned him into a butterfly or something.

FACT

FACT

FACT


Seriously, I know you won't admit it, but you know its true.

that being said, he is the world's strongest mortal and WWH 5 was pretty good. It went a long way towards redeeming this series.

I should also add that as far as i'm concerned, aside from the Zom debacle (total rubbish) the series was believable.

1. An uber juiced up Hulk beats Black Bolt? Absolutely

2. An uber juiced up Hulk kicks the crap out of the Avengers and Iron Man and the Fantastic Four? I'll buy that (Thor wasn't present)

3. An uber juiced up Hulk cheats to beat Doc Strange because he can't beat him straight up? Sure. We know the Hulk can't beat Strange and since he has a history of being a cheap shot artist this is in character.

4. An uber juiced up Hulk even surviving Zom?

5. An uber juiced up Hulk put a good licking on the Ghost Rider but fails to do any real harm? Sure

6. An uber juiced up Hulk is completely stalemated by Juggs? Definately.

7. An uber juiced up Hulk pwns the X-men? Works for me

8. Resists Xavier's mental attack? Puh-leaze.

9. Stalemates the Sentry? I can see it.

So all in all this Hulk love fest is 6 for 9 on the accuracy scale. Not bad

 

[shapeshifter]

So if he is the most indestructible character in the MU. IF.
Does that not make him the most boring character? What do you do with someone who cannot be beat? What are they going to do now, make Hulk Kryptonite? DC learned this lesson years ago. If your character is to powerful they get stale.
Maybe thats why I refuse to believe that hulk is unbeatable. I thought maybe Marvel was smarter than that.

 

[bkhedr]

Man

Juggs is so much more indestructible than Hulk you should be ashamed of yourself for even posting that as an IF scenario.

Juggs being invulnerable is like the Hulk getting stronger as he gets angrier...its what defines the character and makes him what he is.

And he's not unbeatable. He had to cheat again Strange and couldn't overpower Juggs. And there are people on the food chain that make those two look like kindergarteners.

 

[shapeshifter]

can you post the hulk juggs fight in its entirety? None of these DACMAN style scans.
The political spin doctor of the Marvel Universe

 

[bkhedr]

Sure

keep in mind that this is classic Juggs against Uber Hulk. Also notice how Juggs draws blood (which Hulk can't do because Juggs is invulnerable). Notice how the Hulk acknowledged that Juggs has beaten him before. Also notice how for all his big talk and how he's stronger than ever all the Hulk managed to do was take advantage of Juggs being distracted and side step him. He couldn't overpower him or get through him. He then proceeded to get out of there like he was late to pay his taxes (pretty cowardly for someone who's supposed to be so bad ass)

In any case the scans speak for themselves. The only world where this is a Hulk win is the twisted green one in Dac's head.

 

[shapeshifter]

Okay
Looks like a puss out by the big green.
If he was as badass as they say he would have trashed him in less time than that.
thanks for the scans. I like the artwork too.

 

[DoomRulz]

That splash page with Juggernaut (along with the dialog with Juggernaut in bold) emerging from the flames is multiplied by 1 000 000.

Hulk couldn't draw blood, but he did crinkle Jugg's armour. Surely that counts for something. I dunno...I think Hulk could've won.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the intent was probably to show that they're evenly matched. Jugs bloodies the Hulk's lip, the Hulk dents Jugs' armor a little. Tit for tat.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Hulk stalemated Senty, Banner beat Reynolds.

Hulk failed to overpower Juggs. Juggs stood toe to toe with him and Hulk couldn't put him down or even hurt him.

Hulk crippled Doc Strange after making him believe he was going to stop fighting. If he hadn't done that (dirty pool) Doc could have just turned him into a butterfly or something.

FACT

FACT

FACT


Seriously, I know you won't admit it, but you know its true.

that being said, he is the world's strongest mortal and WWH 5 was pretty good. It went a long way towards redeeming this series.

I should also add that as far as i'm concerned, aside from the Zom debacle (total rubbish) the series was believable.

1. An uber juiced up Hulk beats Black Bolt? Absolutely

2. An uber juiced up Hulk kicks the crap out of the Avengers and Iron Man and the Fantastic Four? I'll buy that (Thor wasn't present)

3. An uber juiced up Hulk cheats to beat Doc Strange because he can't beat him straight up? Sure. We know the Hulk can't beat Strange and since he has a history of being a cheap shot artist this is in character.

4. An uber juiced up Hulk even surviving Zom?

5. An uber juiced up Hulk put a good licking on the Ghost Rider but fails to do any real harm? Sure

6. An uber juiced up Hulk is completely stalemated by Juggs? Definately.

7. An uber juiced up Hulk pwns the X-men? Works for me

8. Resists Xavier's mental attack? Puh-leaze.

9. Stalemates the Sentry? I can see it.

So all in all this Hulk love fest is 6 for 9 on the accuracy scale. Not bad

pretty good post here