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My dream is to go to London but honestly I'm not claustrophobic or anything but the thought of being on a plane for 9 hours between two fat ladies is unappealing.
I've been from London to Miami its not that bad a flight. I flew U.S Airways and it was half empty plane there but full back. Some little kid projectile vomit on the plane though.

I can just about handle flights to the U.S if its the east coast any longer and I start getting really claustrophobic.
eh, i thought I was being pretty clear on how London is the ultimate pain the ass city, but to explain further...it is a commuter's nightmare...the buses run at a snail's pace cause the traffic situation is out of control...the tubes are jam packed...a helluva lot of people have given up on driving their cars into the city centre,...and that's the reason why the Mayor instigated a campaign to give out free bicycles around the city, where folk can pick up them up and use them to get into work, returning them later for other's use.

Once you have visited the big landmarks, it is just like any other city, except a major pain to get around. Camden market is good though, for the music scene and the market at the weekend. That would be one good point about living there.
Well to be fair the population of London is larger than the entire population of all of Scotland so it will be more crowded than Glasgow.

I'm a Londoner its not that bad. Most major capitals in the developed worlds are expensive especially the tourist areas.

The tubes are usually packed at rush hour but its not that crowded at other times of the day. I've felt like I was gonna die on packed tubes in the summer in the deep lines like victoria with no air conditioning.

Traffic isn't that bad with the congestion charge cutting alot of the traffic that used to be in the city. Apart from heavily built up areas like the West End traffic isn't that bad.

There is lots of stuff to do in London besides visit the landmarks. There is something going on somewhere in the city every night if you know where to go.

If you have been to Camden have you ever had a drink in The Worlds End Pub or been Koko or The Camden Roundhouse?
 
You know why Batman the Brave & the Bold is the greatest show ever?
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Nazi Dinosaurs.
 
With London the best places to visit are the side streets and parts of the city off the beaten track.

Ben Crouch's Tavern down alley next to HMV on Oxford Street is a cool Gothic themed Pub.

This is Camden for you Yanks.

Its a area of North London which is home to Londons Alternatice scene for decades so you see plenty of Punks, Goths, Ravers, Emos, Scenesters, Heavy Metal Heads, Hippies, Indie Rock kids, Rastas, Skaters, Rockabilly types ect

Plus a large number of drug dealers (which is probably why Amy Winehouse lived in the area)
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Ye Camden was the coolest place in my short visit to London.
 
Love it with so much love. It's a truly fab place and i just absolutely adore london in general. Though I'll like it a lot more when all these riots have stopped

I'm glad that my girlfriend and I don't live near where that looting and rioting is going on. And I'll be very glad when its stopped

Ever seen Futurama?

Know how there are other Bending Units besides Bender Bending Rodriguez?

Same reason why there are multiple versions of those characters. Don't think of them as characters, think of them as toasters that love f**king.

Which are the best kind of toasters surely :up:
 
There is lots of stuff to do in London besides visit the landmarks. There is something going on somewhere in the city every night if you know where to go.

If you have been to Camden have you ever had a drink in The Worlds End Pub or been Koko or The Camden Roundhouse?

I've not been down to London in years and years, as my bro moved to Wales a few years ago. But, aye, I have been down in Camden a good few times, our band played there a couple of times as well, 1st time we played at the Laurel tree, with Alex from FranzFerdinand's 1st band the Blisters, and Uresai Yatsura(sic), Cherry Red records had just put out an album with some of our songs on it, so they organised the gig, we were crap that night though, lol, too knackered.
The other time we played was in the Camden Falcon, that was a pretty good venue, nice big stage, we played real good that night iirc. I always regretted forgetting to give the sound guy a tape to record us that night, he asked me for one, and i forgot as i was so busy rushing around getting things set up.
The NME came down and gave us a wee review that night, i think they only caught the last couple of songs of our set. We were not the most organised band, and never had any kind of management, so both of those were set up by the record labels that we did records for at the time.

I drank in a few other pubs, but I don't recall the names of them, there was that famous one i don't recall the name of right now, the Dublin Castle i think it was called, where bands like Suede and Elastic played their first gigs in. I remember walking in there with the old superhero domino mask type make up over my eyes(this was one of the nights we played in camden), the bar was packed, but the barmaid came up to me and served me rightaway and i think that was cause of the make up, lol.
Also drank in the Good Mixer, went to watch some Euro 96 game in there one afternoon.

and aye, maybe it is just my lifelong aversion to being stuck on buses and whatnot, but i always found it a pain getting around, and i have never had much money, so London was always a pain for the cash as well.

and y'know, just things like getting home from a club at night, impossible unless you have a stack of money for a taxi home, i nearly got staranded at this massive multi-levelled club when i went there with this Macedonian friend of mine, he had moved there after art school, and worked in soho, so i hung out with him round the bars there, and went to this crazy club. i lost him and wandered around for two hours in the place, until i found him just before he walking into the vip section, so i got in too, and the place was full of tranvestities, transexuals, bisexuals, everything but straight out hetrosexuals, lol, he even told me to say i was bi if anyone asked, just to show i was open minded or whatever.
but, man, if i had not found him at that point in the night i would have been ****ed, lol, stranded, my train home was the next morning as well. In Glasgow, no matter where you live, it is pretty much walkable to get home, you wouldn't get stranded like that.

the comic shops are amazing though, I landed in london the next day after the big Forbidden Planet opened, so missed Adam West doing his gala opening of the shop and signing session(which Grant Morrison talks about in his new book), my bro was feeling real guilty he did not notice that until after he bought my ticket for travelling. But, aye, picking through all the back issues i caught up on all the ASM i missed for the last couple of years, as i had been spending all my money on computer games. i couldn't have done that in any of the glasgow back issue shops, very sparse selections.

But man, i would probably sit in the house a lot if i lived in a city like that, as it can be a lot of hassle to get around, and i am a bit sick of sitting in the house as it is, lol.
 
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so i got in too, and the place was full of tranvestities, transexuals, bisexuals, everything but straight out hetrosexuals, lol,

Do you remember the name of the club

Sounds like my idea of the perfect club :atp:
 
Taxis and minicabs are insanely expensive especially crossing the river.

You have to get a minicab that can take six of you and your mates then split the cost so it isn't as much money.

Thats if you all live in the general same area. If not you get the dreaded Night Bus.

Getting on a Night Bus in London is a horror beyond horrors.

Forbidden Planet by Covent Garden is good.
 
Do you remember the name of the club

Sounds like my idea of the perfect club :atp:

Nah, i don't recall the name of that club at all, i mean, the mian club, of which there were several massive levels, was just the usual type of rave-y club, that was just the vip part i was talking about, which was not that big. My friend's wife was the manager of a pub in soho, so he knew tons of folk there, he was a very cool guy, I was pissed off when i lost his phone number years later, he probably thought i didn't bother phoning him again or something, which a lot of folk did with him once he moved away.

man, that was a brutal hangover i had to battle through to get back in time for my train the next morning, I didn't even know where i was going, had no money(enough for one can of juice), and a bus pass that had expired the previous day, but luckily the bus folk did not notice that on any of the buses i went on, lol. But i made it back in time.
 
Ah no worries then

Hahaha sounds like you had quite a night. Sorry to hear you lost touch with your friend it always sucks when that happens :csad:
 
Forbidden Planet by Covent Garden is good.

There was another comic shop in Camden that was pretty good, just a small shop, I don't recall the name of it though, but again I got some good back issues i wanted, and the old movie poster of the Adam West Batman movie, that would have been about 89/90, so i don't know if it's still there.

and aye Mystirious, losing contact with that guy was a real shame, he was like my mentor in my second year of art school, turned me onto some good books, and opened up my eyes to some aspects of life, i would have been about 21, he was in his mid-thirties.
He always had this thing of not considering you his friend until a couple of years had passed and you had proved yourself to him, lol, man, i liked him a lot, looked like Jeff Goldblum, funnily enough a few of my female friends had fancied him from afar i found out later, as he worked in a student bar they went to, lol.
He was quite funny, he always challenged your way of thinking about things, and a lot of the other students hated that, lol, they found him intimidating, he was, but he was also a good guy who just wanted to get to the truth of the matter about things, no bs.

So by the time of knowing him for two or three years, he moved away, and when i looked him up in london, he was like 'Now, i know you are my friend Villy! (he always pronounced the W in my name like a V) the other people i thought were my friends from art school, they did not call me after i moved to London, and were not interested in talking to me really when i called them up.'

So, i hate the fact he probably thinks I stopped calling him like they did, the last time i spoke to him i was high as a kite in my flat, jumping about dancing to tunes with my friends, so it was not the most coherant conversation, i even wrote his number down on two bits of paper, but lost them both somehow in that crazy flat. I couldn't even google his name, as he had a very long Macedonian name that there is no way i could remember how to spell.
 
There used to be a small comic shop at the top of Tottenham Court Road around the corner from Forbidden Planet.

Hey Bumwhowalks what instrument do you play?
 
There used to be a small comic shop at the top of Tottenham Court Road around the corner from Forbidden Planet.

this one I went to was just off one of the little rivers that ran through it.

Hey Bumwhowalks what instrument do you play?

First I started on the drums, played them in secondary school for a few years, first live performance was in a school assembly thing, then the first instrument i bought was a bass guitar, which was the first instrument i played in a recording studio ...then I graduated to guitar, which I played in the band that i ended up playing in regularly.
But, as i was saying in the guitar thread, my hands have been messed up for quite a few years, and don't have that spring-y ness to them anymore, so I stopped playing.
If I ever get that sorted out, I will probably pick it up again.
 
thanks, and aye, we'll have to see if sci-fi tech can rustle up some healing factor for my delicate handie wandies some day. I'm gonna stick to trying to write some prose for the foreseeable future though, I like that cause it's all on me, with a band, man, it can be a real headache trying to get everyone on the same creative page sometimes, and i did that for years.

edit: actually, feel a little guilty saying that, the guys i was in the band with gave me a lot of creative freedom, they were great people, and when you ended up getting something going it was worth it, but every creative endevour has it's pros and cons, with a band, you have to organise this that and the next thing, so it's a nice change to do the writing with the immediateness of it, and even apart from all the pros and cons, i just think writing prose is where I'm at right now as what I want to do.
 
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To be fair, that's like the 25th Star Wars porn Parody.
 
My dream is to go to London but honestly I'm not claustrophobic or anything but the thought of being on a plane for 9 hours between two fat ladies is unappealing.

I live in California. If I flew to London, I'd have to endure that twice. Once to catch a connecting flight in New York, and again to cross the Atlantic.


**** it, I'll just go to Hawaii. It's all the adventure of visiting a different country without actually visiting a different country. And it's closer.
 
I don't know why but I always fall back into the batboards. It might be the stench of stupidity I find interesting.
 
I peaked my head in there today for the first time actually. No thank you. I want to go into TDKR without knowing every possible detail of the film. I already feel like I know too much.
 
Yeah I feel like the idea that we know what Bane looks like kinda ruins it a bit for me.
 
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