"The Walking Dead" developed by Frank Darabont and AMC - Part 4

[Kurosawa]

I don't mind the changes from the comics because Kirkman is involved in them. Otherwise, I always want as much faithfulness to the source material as possible, but if the original author is involved, then it is completely different. It's his creation, and if he wants to change things for the TV version, then that is his right as an artist.

 

[Rowsdower!]

The Rick/Shane confrontation was epic. I knew Shane was going to die somehow but I didn't see Rick stabbing him like that. Nice slight of hand there. And Rick's meltdown as he was killing him was amazing.

Also, for those who think having a kid shoot someone is shocking... that kinda thing has been going down on TV for years. I remember on the show Picket Fences -- which aired back in the 1990s -- they had a kid pull out a gun and shoot another kid. In a SCHOOL.

Now, that was pre-Columbine, but regardless... a kid shooting a zombie really isn't anything to get fired up about.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I don't really see what Kirkman's involvement has to do with anything. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that he's involved with the show and recognized the need to change things.

Yes, it would be a nice consideration to the original creators for any adaptation to stay 100% faithful to its source material. But it would also be boring as ****. If people have already read the same story in the comic, it would be a waste of time to watch it play out on screen. That's why I never really bother with many of DC's direct to DVD cartoons.

On top of that, it is an adaptation. Certain changes need to be made. TV and comics may both be visual media, but they're hardly the same thing. Pacing has to be changed, and visual aspects need to evolve to fit the screen instead of tiny boxes on a sheet of paper.

 

[carrrnuttt]

I for one am GLAD that they've deviated from the comics. Had they *attempted* to stay as close as possible to the comics, the comic fans in here will find even more things to ***** about, I guara-damn-tee it.

It's one thing to have a story told that is reliant on the whims of a writer and an artist, and another that needs an expensive production and the coordination of literally hundreds of people to make it come to life. Not to mention that in the comics, in-between panels, the scenes are wholly executed in the brains of the reader.

There's a show, there's a comic. We're in the TV forums. If you want to ***** about the show, do it here, if you want to ***** about how the show isn't the comic, do it in the comic forums.

 

[Sawyer]

Considering the fact that I got bored of Rodriguez/Miller's Sin City after, like, the second time I watched it, I'm always in favor of surprises, as long as they don't wander too far off the beaten path.

 

[HighFivingMF]

No one thinks that this group sitting on the farm for 12 episodes was good or the whole Sophia thing taking forever.

I did.

 

[kevin2323]

I did.

me too

 

[carrrnuttt]

me too

Me three.

 

[kane9321]

Oh sweet *****

Hey glenn, maggie wants you...wtf is ur problem. Are u that dumb?

 

[The Apocalypse]

when did they shoot a kid? they shot a walker. and tonight the same thing happened.

They shot a kid right in the chest on LOST. It just made more sense for Rick to kill Shane in this situation.

 

[Boom]

I'm afraid I haven't kept up with this season.

Have we found out what Dr. Jenner whispered to Rick in Season One's finale yet?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Basically but it will be revealed in the finale.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

we're supposed to next week.

 

[Boom]

And what's the general consensus on Season Two overall?

I heard it drags out.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

the first half drags out, but the second half is balls to the wall awesome.

 

[Marvin]

This show suffers from clarity imo.

What exactly triggered Shane's kill attempt? Was it what lori said?

Karl [BLACKOUT]killed his second father figure to save his first...but technically Shane was a zombie and all Karl really did was kill a zombie[/BLACKOUT]...what a big dilemma...

Shane [BLACKOUT]turning into a zombie after being killed says nothing about the nature of the virus. For all we know Shane's been long infected since he's been all but licking blood off his knives.[/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]Daryl putting Dale out of his misery and calling him brother is forced. If say Andrea did the deed after their history, finally cementing her bad ass status say Glen after their good times then you have something.[/BLACKOUT] But the show just continually presents stuff it thinks mean more than they do.

 

[dark_b]

please tell me there is a big twist in the last episode? and its not that they are all infected? because i didnt read the comics and i knew it when Rick first saw the policeman. the writters dont think that we are that stupid right?

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

nah, you are just too smart next to rest of us.

 

[RetroNaz]

The "coming back as a zombie when dead" twist will be a "twist" for the actual characters in the show. Not so much the audience.

There have been numerous hints at this for the laymen to put two and two together.

 

[Asgard]

Great ep. The climax was pretty tense.

My only problem was Shane planning to kill Rick so close to the farm. It just didnt make any sense with how he was going to explain the murder.

Rick was badass. Looks like he didnt know about dead bodies turning into zombies.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

This show suffers from clarity imo.

or is it that they dont feel the need to hit us over the head with an anvil to explain things?

What exactly triggered Shane's kill attempt? Was it what lori said?

ya think?

Karl [BLACKOUT]killed his second father figure to save his first...but technically Shane was a zombie and all Karl really did was kill a zombie[/BLACKOUT]...what a big dilemma...

Don't think they really sold it as one. Carl didnt look all that torn about it.

Shane [BLACKOUT]turning into a zombie after being killed says nothing about the nature of the virus. For all we know Shane's been long infected since he's been all but licking blood off his knives.[/BLACKOUT]

It pretty much confirms that you dont have to get bit to turn which is what the people on the show believed previously.

[BLACKOUT]Daryl putting Dale out of his misery and calling him brother is forced. If say Andrea did the deed after their history, finally cementing her bad ass status say Glen after their good times then you have something.[/BLACKOUT] But the show just continually presents stuff it thinks mean more than they do.

When Daryl said that it wasnt meant as some kind of term of endearment. Daryl seems like the type of guy who would call everyone "brother" or "chief" or some other similar name.

the writters dont think that we are that stupid right?

Only if they're judging us by our spelling....

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yes, it would be a nice consideration to the original creators for any adaptation to stay 100% faithful to its source material. But it would also be boring as ****. If people have already read the same story in the comic, it would be a waste of time to watch it play out on screen. That's why I never really bother with many of DC's direct to DVD cartoons.

I'd love that actually, wouldn't be a waste of my time. But I'm one of very few people who feels this way.

 

[Kane52630]

Not reading the spoilers but is the finale an hour and a half?

 

[SuperFerret]

I've never said that the show needs to be 100% accurate, but certain pivotal moments are important because of the way they played out. Carl was cheated a prime character development moment, and it would have been made MORE significant due to the relationship he and Shane had in the show. This is like killing Gwen Stacy without the use of a bridge.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I didn't mind the change because the stand off between Rick and Shane was so damn intense. I'll be honest, I did really think Carl was going to shoot Shane because they built to it so well throughout the entire episode. I at least had a strong feeling Shane was going to bite it. But I loved it. Very well acted from both. My heart was racing in that scene because I expected Carl to shoot Shane. So I didn't expect Rick to stab Shane. Took me in another direction and I liked it a lot.

Plus I found it interesting that Rick and Carl's roles were reversed from the comic. Carl shot Shane dead then now knowing the dead come back without being bitten, Rick left Hershel's farm to drive back to the Atlanta campsite, dig Shane up and finish the job.

Now that I think about it, Rick killing Shane benefited more for what the show is going for.

Lincoln's delivery was so damn good. You could just feel him feeling incredibly hateful and saddened by killing his best friend. Everything he said about Dale and trying to retain his humanity was kinda thrown out the window there and he knew it.

The second half is just a hell of a lot better than the last half. And this is post Darabont's absense? If so, they're going to be fine.