The Walking Dead "The Walking Dead" General Stuff & Thaaaangs Thread - - - Part 12

[Man in the Suit]

Btw what would you guys say was the peak of the show? For me it had to be season 4, though I think season 3 was pretty damn great, minus most of the Woodbury scenes.

Seasons 4 and 5. Very focused with higher highs.

 

[squeekness]

The prison season was the weakest for me.

 

[Elevator Man]

I've been noticing a decline in quality since the middle of Season 6. The show at the moment still hasn't recovered, imo. I think Season 7 has dethroned Season 3 as my least favorite season. At least Season 3 had some great episodes (3.1-3.4, 3.12 "Clear", 3.15 Merle's redemption episode) in a very stretched out season. Aside from 7.2 "The Well" (introduction of Ezekiel, Shiva, and The Kingdom) and 7.13 "Bury Me Here" (Morgan reverting back into clear mode) Season 7 didn't have any episodes that I would consider near great.

 

[carrrnuttt]

I can't believe this hasn't been posted here yet: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/11/16131466/the-walking-dead-robert-kirkman-amazon-prime-deal

It’s been a busy week for streaming services, and Amazon is closing things out with a huge announcement: the company has closed an overall deal with The Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman, along with signing a first-look agreement for his production company Skybound Entertainment. In one fell swoop, it makes Amazon Prime Video the exclusive home for any new shows from the minds behind The Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead, and Cinemax’s Outcast.

Skybound historically has a close relationship with AMC, the network behind both Walking Dead TV shows. Two years ago, Kirkman signed an overall deal with the network that made it the home for any upcoming projects. (Outcast, which was already underway at Cinemax, was exempted from the deal.) Despite declining ratings over the last year, The Walking Dead has continued to be one of the biggest hits in television, and the overall deal was a way for AMC to keep one of its most profitable hitmakers in-house.

Another article about it with more details: http://deadline.com/2017/08/robert-kirkman-overall-deal-amazon-the-walking-dead-1202146941/

 

[Slick]

100 episodes used to be 4 seasons on a network series.

Most cable shows today will never reach it (since many are 10-13 eps a season and most don't last beyond 5/6 at most).

Yeah I think the only other cable show that made it to 100 was Nip/Tuck so I guess that means TWD will of course take its place. Going well past it.

 

[Slick]

I can't believe this hasn't been posted here yet: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/11/16131466/the-walking-dead-robert-kirkman-amazon-prime-deal



Another article about it with more details: http://deadline.com/2017/08/robert-kirkman-overall-deal-amazon-the-walking-dead-1202146941/

This should be obvious but I'm assuming AMC has rights to use future storylines from the comics right?

 

[carrrnuttt]

This should be obvious but I'm assuming AMC has rights to use future storylines from the comics right?

I would hope so.

If not, I'm an Amazon Prime subscriber, so it works out for me, either way.

 

[Zero_Effect]

Robert Kirkman, Gale Anne Hurd, Glen Mazzara, and David Alpert follow Frank Darabont in suing over the blockbuster zombie series, and potential damages could reach $1 billion.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...-massive-amc-profits-scam-new-lawsuit-1029197

 

[Man in the Suit]

Whoa.

 

[Kane52630]

#FrankWasRight

 

[carrrnuttt]

Robert Kirkman, Gale Anne Hurd, Glen Mazzara, and David Alpert follow Frank Darabont in suing over the blockbuster zombie series, and potential damages could reach $1 billion.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...-massive-amc-profits-scam-new-lawsuit-1029197

I knew the AMC execs were cheap, but damn.

No wonder Kirkman decided to sign with Amazon instead.

 

[carrrnuttt]

#FrankWasRight

It gives you perspective on the motive behind AMC putting out Frank's emails that made him look bad.

 

[Kane52630]

Yeah it was definitely a smear campaign.

 

[Elevator Man]

Robert Kirkman, Gale Anne Hurd, Glen Mazzara, and David Alpert follow Frank Darabont in suing over the blockbuster zombie series, and potential damages could reach $1 billion.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...-massive-amc-profits-scam-new-lawsuit-1029197

Serves AMC right for being greedy cheapskates. I won't be surprised if Gimple comes at AMC with a lawsuit next or in the near future.

 

[Elevator Man]

The Walking Dead: See more Glenn and Abraham in extended dream sequence

It was a fleeting moment of what could have been after the most gruesome deaths in Walking Dead history. After Glenn and Abraham had their brains bashed in by Negan in the season 7 premiere of The Walking Dead, we saw a brief peek into the future dream scene of an alternate reality in which the two (as well as Spencer) had survived and were enjoying a big Alexandrian feast.

It turns out there was more to that scene that we didn’t see… until now. EW has the exclusive first look at the extended dream sequence that will be included on The Walking Dead season 7 Blu-ray and DVD sets being released on Aug. 22, and it is even more heartbreaking.

See Glenn playing with the child he will never meet on a blanket while also admiring Eugene’s remote controlled car. Witness Abraham and a pregnant Sasha relaxing blissfully on a bench. Watch Maggie tickling her son and kissing Glenn one final time. Everyone looks so damn happy — even Carol, Michonne, and Aaron as they bring food, drink, and firewood to the table. Again… heartbreaking.

Grab some Kleenex and watch the scene for yourself above. And for more goodies like this, make sure to pick up your copy of The Walking Dead: The Complete Seventh Season — which includes a bevy of deleted scenes, featurettes, and commentary tracks — when it arrives Aug. 22 on Blu-ray (plus Digital HD) and DVD.

I'm glad this unnecessary dream sequence was cutdown. If only the rest of the footage that made the episode was cut as well. I always felt it was too sappy, contrived, and "on the nose". I get it. Glenn will never see or raise his unborn child. And Abe will never start a family with Sasha due to Negan taking both of their (Glenn & Abe's) lives. No need to beat the viewer in the head of what not only Glenn and Abe lost but Rick and co. lost as well. I didn't need a dream sequence to convey to me the obvious. Hopefully there won't be too many (if any) dream sequences for the remainder of this show.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Bear McCreary's Score Getting Vinyl Release

Lakeshore Records, along with Sparks & Shadows, is releasing the Bear McCreary-penned score to The Walking Dead onto vinyl. This will be the first vinyl release for the straight score. The 2xLP, gatefold release includes 140-gram green wax, a poster, and insert featuring liner notes by the composer. The vinyl comes out on October 20th. It will be priced at $34.98.We’ll keep you updated with when pre-orders launch.

Side A:
01. Theme from The Walking Dead
02. Rick’s Despair
03. Glenn’s Wheels
04. Lord of the Vatos
05. Bag of Guns
06. Message to Morgan
07. Herd on the Highway
08. Sophia
Side B:
09. Coalescence
10. Eulogy
11. Carl
12. Farm Invasion
13. Beside the Dying Fire
Side C:
14. C-Section
15. The Governor
16. Bye, Baby Bunting
17. A Return to Compassion
18. The Badge
Side D:
19. Welcome to the Tombs
20. Reconciliation
21. Three Questions
22. Negan
23. The Day Will Come

 

[Elevator Man]

Difficult to calculate without the track times, but based off the tracklist it doesn't look like it'll be a 2-CD set for the CD release. Probably a single disc. It seems to feature a couple of highlights from Seasons 1, 2, and 3. As well as features maybe one or two tracks from Season 4. And one track each from Season 6 and 7, but doesn't include any tracks from Season 5. Instead of condensing a certain amount of cues from nearly each prior season they should've released a volume for each season instead. It's better than nothing, I guess.

 

[Elevator Man]

How Tony Danza ended up on The Walking Dead (and other untold stories)

Season 7 of The Walking Dead had some downright gruesome moments. But it had a few fun and goofy ones as well. And the story behind perhaps the goofiest moment of all can be found on The Walking Dead: The Complete Seventh Season Blu-ray (plus Digital HD) and DVD sets available Aug. 22.

At the start of the season’s third episode “The Cell” — the one where Daryl is tortured by Negan and the Saviors — we see Dwight watching an old VHS copy of the opening credits to the 1980s sitcom Who’s the Boss? How did this end up happening? It turns out it came down to a few chance meetings between Who’s the Boss? star Tony Danza and Walking Dead favorite Norman Reedus.

“I ran into Tony Danza a couple of times actually,” Reedus says during the commentary track for “The Cell.” “It was originally in Atlanta at a wrap party a couple of seasons ago. And then I saw him again in front of The Four Seasons. And then his manager ended up sending an email via someone else to me about Tony doing something.”

That’s right, it seems Danza is a big Walking Dead fan and his team reached out about the former Tony Micelli appearing in some fashion on the AMC hit. When Reedus informed showrunner Scott M. Gimple of the interest, it eventually led to the screen-within-a-screen cameo. “[Scott] had asked me, ‘Hey, send an email and see if it’d be cool if we did something to the credits with his show.’”

It all worked out, but one thing that did not make the final cut, according to Reedus, was a creative suggestion from Danza’s manager. “We did that and then his manager wrote me back and said something like ‘Oh, it’s cool. It would be cool if Norman said like, ‘Oh, see — he’s still the boss.” Or something like that. Something crazy. Which, of course, we didn’t do.”

Cheesy one-liners aside, Reedus and The Walking Dead team have nothing but love for their celebrity fan turned cameo star. “He’s super cool,” says Reedus of Danza.

That’s not the only secret revealed during the season 7 commentary tracks. Here are a few other tidbits spilled by the stars and producers. Click through all three pages to read all the secrets of The Walking Dead. WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!

Spoiler

Why Abraham does not look at Sasha before Negan takes him out

Originally, Abraham was supposed to look over at Sasha before Negan bashed his brains in during the season 7 premiere. That was the plan. But then producers remembered that they had also filmed the scene from Abraham’s point of view in the season 6 finale cliffhanger, and that point of view never turned to the left. “I think I had even scripted it,” says Gimple of Abraham looking at Sasha. “And it couldn’t happen where Abraham actually looks at Sasha, and I realized dammit, we’ve already filmed his perspective. He doesn’t turn. And we were both bummed to lose that.”

But then, it was Michael Cudlitz who had the brilliant idea about a half-hour before filming to have Abe acknowledge Sasha by flashing her the peace sign — a call back to similar moments between the two in episodes 601 and 615. Cudlitz saves the day!

Sasha was pregnant… kinda

I guess Abraham and Sasha were trying to make pancakes after all. At least they were in the dream sequence from the season premiere in which you see a future in which Glenn, Abraham, and Spencer had all survived and were enjoying a feast together in Alexandria. Cudlitz notes during the commentary track that if you look closely you can see Sasha is sporting a baby bump. This was made clearer in a much longer version of the scene that never aired which also appears on the Blu-ray/DVD, and you can watch right here!

Norman Reedus thought he had become a TWD comic character

Daryl Dixon was the first major regular character that was original to the show and did not come from the comic book. But at one point Reedus thought that TWD comic creator Robert Kirkman had decided to add him to the original source material.

The confusion comes over the character of Dwight. First, a little background: In early drafts for The Walking Dead’s first season, the character of Daryl was actually called Dwight. So then, when Kirkman introduced Dwight in the comics in issue 98 — which came out after the show had already started — and gave the character a vest and a crossbow, Reedus naturally thought it was him. “I was so stoked thinking I was in the comic book,” says Reedus on the commentary track. Unfortunately for him, Kirkman then had to break the bad news that it was not him but an entirely new character — a character that would end up plaguing Daryl on the TV version.

‘A’ stands for…

Ever wonder what the giant ‘A’ on Daryl’s Sanctuary sweatshirt stands for? Co-executive producer Angela Kang enlightens us. “It just means a–hole,” says Kang on a commentary. “They’re being juvenile. Like an a–hole and an F and an S for f—face and s—head.” Reedus himself seemed surprised by that revelation. “I thought it meant Aquarius,” he jokes.

By the way, the original plan was for Daryl to be in a factory jumpsuit instead of sweats, but showrunner Gimple thought it bore too close a resemblance to another famous show. “Scott thought it would look too much like Lost,” explains Kang. Apparently, he didn’t want Daryl signing up for the Dharma Initiative just yet.

Where’s Tara?

Tara shows up to the Kingdom with Rick and Co. to recruit Ezekiel in “Rock in the Road,” but if you look closely, you will notice that you never see her face when the group walks into the theater for their first meeting with the king. That’s due to a scheduling snafu where Alanna Masterson had to shoot some scenes at the Oceanside beach for episode 6 at the same time. Well, at least she was there in spirit… I guess.

How long is the entire season 7 timeline?

While it seemed to take Rick a long time to go from a beaten down shell of a man to fighting back with his new army, co-executive producer Denise Huth reveals that the entire timeline of season 7 was only 19 days. That’s it! 19 days! I guess that helps explain why we still have never seen winter on this show.

Casting curiosities

The little boy who plays Benjamin’s younger brother Henry is Macsen Lintz. If that name seems familiar it’s because his sister Madison played Sophia from seasons 1 and 2. But Macsen almost made it onto the show before season 7. Originally, the roles of Lizzie and Mika (from season 4) were imagined as boy characters like in the comic book (where they were named Ben and Billy). Macsen auditioned for one of the brother roles before producers switched the gender.

Macsen is not the only newbie who had auditioned before. Gimple notes that Cooper Andrews (who plays cobbler-loving Jerry) had tried out for a variety of “tough guy roles” before landing his current part. “Jerry was basically made for him,” notes Gimple. “I knew that Ezekiel needed a foil.”

(Almost) choking on your own vomit

The choking sounds you hear as Morgan strangles Richard for causing Benjamin’s death were done by none other than showrunner Gimple, who adds that he almost threw up in the studio from making said choking sounds. The man suffers for his art!

Morgan kills a famous (fictional) president

Lennie James was practicing his stick training at home when he experienced a little mishap. “I was trying something out that I hadn’t been taught that I had seen on YouTube,” he explains on a commentary track. One second, James was swinging his stick around, and the next, it went flying into his TV. James was watching The West Wing at the time and notes that, “Josiah Bartlet got it straight through the head.” Can’t say Eastman would approve of that one.

There are tons more tidbits to be uncovered — as well as featurettes and deleted scenes — when The Walking Dead: The Complete Seventh Season is released Aug. 22 on Blu-ray (plus Digital HD) and DVD.

I wonder if The Walking Dead: The Complete Seventh Season Blu-ray/DVD will also include in the deleted scenes section that car chase that was cut from "The Cell"?

 

[Man in the Suit]

I'm mad about a deleted scene from the finale with Rick, Carl, and Michonne. It's only maybe 2 minutes long but it would've made Rick and Negan's scenes even better, while also having Rick actually talk to his son. They could've cut Sasha listening to an iPod and the junkyard people to include it. Ugh...

 

[Elevator Man]

Yeah I heard about that. It doesn't surprise me. We never got to see Rick and co. really grieve for Glenn and Abe, or Tara's reaction to Denise's death, or how Sasha was captured in the sanctuary, when she ran in there guns blazing.

Season 7, in general, really could've used more Rick and Carl scenes. We also should've been given a scene of Rick talking to Carl about his failed assassination attempt on Negan and the consequences of it, which somewhat resulted to the deaths of Spencer and Olivia. Both Season 6 and 7 had a lack of focus on their relationship, imo. Which is ironic b/c the show is supposed to be centered around both characters.

 

[Drizzle]

I'm pissed that they didn't add uncensored Negan to the Blu-ray like they said they would.

 

[Elevator Man]

That's AMC for you.

 

[KevTravels]

will season 8 be a return to form? loads of criticism over season 6 and 7. is AMC boosting the budget and hiring quality writers to make this show good again?

 

[Drizzle]

will season 8 be a return to form? loads of criticism over season 6 and 7. is AMC boosting the budget and hiring quality writers to make this show good again?

I liked season 7 for the most part but even I can admit it had plenty of flaws. They need to step up their game this season otherwise they're gonna lose a lot more viewers.

 

[Leenie]

Btw what would you guys say was the peak of the show? For me it had to be season 4, though I think season 3 was pretty damn great, minus most of the Woodbury scenes.

The series peaked at Season 1, specifically the very first episode ...