The WHO DO YOU TRUST Official Thread

[Roughneck]

triple agent/

 

[Kingfish]

I don't know...I don't watch BG

well its intensly similar to the plot of that show.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

This might just be due to the nature of the story. I mean I've never gotten around to watching BSG (something I keep kicking myself in the head for), but I saw Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and they had a similar "Who Can you Trust" motif with their changelings.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Another comment from the Upset Fan,basically all of the comments ive read from you are negative.You really are like your username,but your signature makes sence.Do you agree that this event will just be huge recons that will make fans angry?

 

[Roughneck]

I think it will be a huge set of recons that will make some fans happy, it's gonna reset the Status Quo...by the end of this:

The Avengers will be the Avengers

Heroes will all get along

Spidey's Identity will be secret

Fury will be in charge of Shield

Cap will be alive.....


Prolly not, but man would that ever be an easy way out.....I'm just hoping for that Gwen Skrull

 

[Red Mask]

Next year Marvel should just reveal them all in some silly ceremony. Joe Q and Bendis can be on stage in tuxedos as they announce the imposters. One by one they come from behind the curtain, all smiling.

"Elektra was a Skrull! Publicist Sarah Day is a Skrull! Rogue is a Skrull! Kitty Pryde is a Skrull! Agatha Harker was a Skrull! Aunt May was a Skrull! Jessica Jones is a Skrull! The She-Hulk who tapped Juggernaut was a Skrull! The Sentry's late wife was a Skrull! Tigra is a Skrull!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think it will be a huge set of recons that will make some fans happy, it's gonna reset the Status Quo...by the end of this:

The Avengers will be the Avengers

Heroes will all get along

Spidey's Identity will be secret

Fury will be in charge of Shield

Cap will be alive.....


Prolly not, but man would that ever be an easy way out.....I'm just hoping for that Gwen Skrull

again, they made way to big of a deal about caps death WORLD WIDE in the news to have him come back anytime soon... marvel is getting great publicity with there symbolism... caps gonna be dead for a few years.. prob longer then jean has been

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Do you agree that this event will just be huge recons that will make fans angry?

Don't know yet. I like Skrulls so that's a plus.

I'm certainly worried that this is a case of Bendis thinking he's much more clever at weaving a mystery than he really is (Ronin).

again, they made way to big of a deal about caps death WORLD WIDE in the news to have him come back anytime soon... marvel is getting great publicity with there symbolism... caps gonna be dead for a few years.. prob longer then jean has been

Well, how long was Superman dead?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Ignore.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Again......Jessica Drew won't be a Skrull. Bendis has a hard on for her the size of the one he has for Luke Cage. Those two definitely not Skrulls.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well, how long was Superman dead?

thats because alot of people complained... and they realised they had just killed off there flagship character....

cap's death is nothing compared to what marvel would suffer if they killed spider-man or wolverine

 

[stillanerd]

Can you say Invasion of the Body Snatchers anyone?

"THERE HERE! THERE HERE ALREADY! WE'RE ALL IN DANGER! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE! YOU'RE NEXT! YOU'RE NEXT!"

As for who the "pod people" a.k.a Skrulls are:

*Charles Xavier is a good guess. It gives them all kinds of access in terms of monitoring the mutant community, especially if they managed to replicate Xavier's power.
*Maria Hill I think is more of a useful idiot rather than a Skrull, although certainly someone on SHIELD is one.
*Spider-Woman could be a good guess too, as that New Avengers #32 preview suggests that she has had access to both SHIELD and HYDRA, and my guess would be that she was replaced sometime during the Savage Land story.
*Luke Cage and Jessica Jones are not Skrulls, but the baby sure is.
*I don't think Mary Jane would be a Skrull, although it would appear to be a simple "solution" to the Spider marriage, because: 1. It's a retread of how Marvel retconned Johnny Storm's marriage to Alicia, and 2. If she's been a Skrull all along, Spidey still married her and if she's killed it makes him a widower which "ages" him and that's something Joe Q has said over and over he doesn't want, or if she's been a Skrull since MJ disappeared in ASM #13 vol. 2, it still means Spidey was/is married to her and if she is in fact dead Spidey's still a widower. No, my guess is "One More Day," which is supposed to resolve the marriage question, will use some other ridiculous way to do this, especially since it's supposed to tie into things JMS did during his entire run. Then again, I certainly wouldn't put this past Marvel.
*Clint I don't think is a Skrull either. He's just the HOM version of Clint misplaced in the current 616 reality.
*Norman Osborn as a Skrull I could easily see Marvel doing, especially to satisfy long-time complaints that he should never have been brought back to become a Lex Luthor rip-off.
*Tigra as a Skrull would make sense, especially in light of her role in Civil War and her seducing Hank Pym.
*Miriam Sharpe as a Skrull would also be something I'd see Marvel doing, in that while they may not have started Civil War, they certainly nudged things along. (I'd suggest Hulkling falls into the same category.)
*Interesting how some are suggesting Storm is a skrull, but what about Black Panther?
*I'm guessing Somebody inside the Red Skull's organization is a skrull and is manipulating him, especially it light of killing Captain America, who definately was not a Skrull.
*I'm probably a Skrull so you can't trust anything I say anyway.t:

 

[hippy fascist]

Superman was always intended to return

It's called a publicity stunt

 

[spideyboy_1111]

HULKING IS NOT AN EVIL SKRULL hes only half one... AND DOES NOT want to be a part of them

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Superman was always intended to return

It's called a publicity stunt

that 2

 

[stillanerd]

HULKING IS NOT AN EVIL SKRULL hes only half one... AND DOES NOT want to be a part of them

Okay, my bad. But you do have to admit that if the Skrull's did play a part in escalating the conflict in Civil War he played into their hands by releasing those prisoned unregistered heroes from the Negative Zone.

 

[Roughneck]

HULKING IS NOT AN EVIL SKRULL hes only half one... AND DOES NOT want to be a part of them

Or So he wants us to think.


Here's a couple new Theories and Hopes.

- Gwen Stacy was a Skrull, I doubt stuff will go this far back, and I really don't see what the Skrulls could stand to gain from this but they swapped Gwen out and it was a Skrull that was killed.

Why? Because the Skrulls wanted to replace Norman Osbourne, so they had him kill Gwen to that Spidey would then fight him to his Death so they could replace him.

Flaws? Why would they just not let Norman kill the real Gwen or just kill him themselves.

Story Possibilities? Peter's marriage is on the rocks, what better way to puch that sit overboard then to have Peter's first love Gwen Stacey come back into his life after he thought her dead or years,


- Wolverine is a Skrull.

Why? Because he's on the Avengers and the X-men, he's a big player in the Marvel U. Plus his speech in Fallen Son #4 about when they were putting the Aengers together was inorrect. He and Pete just passed it off as some motivational Speech thing because Logan wasn't there when the New Avengrs Formed....didn't seem like Wolverine to me, though it could just be some bad writing by Loeb. Another good point is that he said the Skrulls are fooling his senses, another good reason to take him out, so if we see someone else smelling them then we know they've got Logan...and it wouldn't be the first time he was replaced by a Skrull and no one noticed (Apocalypse: The Twelve)

Flaws: His solo arc during Civil war just doesn't strike me as a Skrull move unless to bring Atlantis into conflict with the Surface World, but he couldn't have planned on that....he must have just been gotten Recently if he is.

Story Possibilities: Wolverine breaking out and wreacking havok on the Skrull homeworld or ship, Skrullverine helping to plant more Skulls on both the X-men and New Avengers.


Other folks I am sure are Skrulls

Captain America
Norman Osbourne
Tigra
Clint Barton
Colossus

 

[hippy fascist]

Colossus isn't a skrull. Whedon brought him back from death and actually managed to do it in a way that was welcomed by fans. Do you really think marvel are going to mess with one of the few well recieved retcons of recent years in light of the reaction to captain marvel's return and the beyonder as an inhuman debacle?

 

[Darthphere]

Colossus isn't a skrull. Whedon brought him back from death and actually managed to do it in a way that was welcomed by fans. Do you really think marvel are going to mess with one of the few well recieved retcons of recent years in light of the reaction to captain marvel's return and the beyonder as an inhuman debacle?

Welcomed by fans? No. More like ignored or accepted because "OMG Whedon is teh awesome!11!111". It's easily one of the lamest and laziest resurrection stories of my lifetime.

 

[Dread]

Welcomed by fans? No. More like ignored or accepted because "OMG Whedon is teh awesome!11!111". It's easily one of the lamest and laziest resurrection stories of my lifetime.

What I liked about the Colossus resurrection is Whedon didn't deny that Colossus actually died. Most resurrections stink because they undo the death itself; claim that never happened, like with Norman Osborn or Jean Grey (the first time), or Magneto or no end of revivals. Whedon just negated the cremation. Plus, he treated it as something miraculous with reactions, vs. the characters being as cynically casual about it as fans are. ("Oh, so you're back, Psylocke? What took ya?")

However, I'm definately in the boat of while Whedon's Astonishing is readable, the pacing/schedule moves at a sluggish pace and it is overrated.

 

[hippy fascist]

Welcomed by fans? No. More like ignored or accepted because "OMG Whedon is teh awesome!11!111". It's easily one of the lamest and laziest resurrection stories of my lifetime.

Quality means nothing in marvel land. Astonishing sells by the bucketload and colossus is a major part of that.

 

[Darthphere]

What I liked about the Colossus resurrection is Whedon didn't deny that Colossus actually died. Most resurrections stink because they undo the death itself; claim that never happened, like with Norman Osborn or Jean Grey (the first time), or Magneto or no end of revivals. Whedon just negated the cremation. Plus, he treated it as something miraculous with reactions, vs. the characters being as cynically casual about it as fans are. ("Oh, so you're back, Psylocke? What took ya?")

However, I'm definately in the boat of while Whedon's Astonishing is readable, the pacing/schedule moves at a sluggish pace and it is overrated.

But he didn't explain how Ord revived him either, if I recall correctly (BrianWilly I'm sure has been alerted), so it's still lame.

 

[hippy fascist]

but the whole

Spoiler

colossus as the prophecied (sp) destroyer of ord's world brought back to life by the man who has dedicated half of his life to preventing this disaster

...is kinda cool

 

[Dread]

But he didn't explain how Ord revived him either, if I recall correctly (BrianWilly I'm sure has been alerted), so it's still lame.

The idea I got was they used advanced alien technology to revive him that us puny humans hadn't mastered yet.

Of course, now that we have seen Breakworld and how ruthless it is, it seems unlikely so warlike a people would have invented a hospital, much less ways to revive people who have been clinically dead for weeks. But, that's neither here nor there.

 

[Darthphere]

but the whole

Spoiler

colossus as the prophecied (sp) destroyer of ord's world brought back to life by the man who has dedicated half of his life to preventing this disaster

...is kinda cool

Or stupid. If he's dead already, leave him dead. That way he can't destroy your homeworld.