CD Projeckt Red The Witcher 3

Oh man that whole bit was just awesome. One of the highlights in gaming akin to the end of Mass Effect 2 for me.
 
Except The Witcher 3 drinks Mass Effect's milkshake in every way. Especially Mass Effect 3.
 
I will never stop talking about how The Witcher 3 with its endings did all the things BioWare said Mass Effect 3 would be like and wasn't and lied to us about.

It's not about getting the happy ending, it's about getting the natural conclusion and outcome that you played for and earned. Some of the endings for The Witcher 3 were bittersweet. Some were happy. Some were actually quite bleak. One is really dark and sad. Also not disregarding established lore and plot developments to talk about space magic.

In The Witcher 3, the way you play determines what type of ending you get.
 
I really need to get on this. Much like MGS V, the controls take some time to get used to so I'm saving this for a time where I'm not going to be bouncing back and forth between games.
 
DarthSkywalker said:
Drinks Mass Effects milkshake, and then beats it to death with a bowling pin.
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Still mad over the ending? Lmfao.

They're both great franchises. Mass Effect wins over every Witcher besides 3. TW3 is just how that trilogy should have ended.

Now, back to obsessing over Ciri.
 
Andrew Lucas said:
Still mad over the ending? Lmfao.

They're both great franchises. Mass Effect wins over every Witcher besides 3. TW3 is just how that trilogy should have ended.

Now, back to obsessing over Ciri.
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No, I just find The Witcher series far superior. The first game is debatable, and I'd probably give it to Mass Effect. Assassins of Kings and The Wild Hunt are much better games then Mass Effect 2 and 3 imo. Not all that close.
 
Yeah the first Witcher game is nowhere near at this level.
 
I would take Assassins of Kings over any of the Mass Effect games in a heartbeat. The first Witcher is from a different era in PC gaming and really isn't comparable. If I were to compare it to the games of the time, I would say it's better than KOTOR2.
 
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DarthSkywalker said:
No, I just find The Witcher series far superior. The first game is debatable, and I'd probably give it to Mass Effect. Assassins of Kings and The Wild Hunt are much better games then Mass Effect 2 and 3 imo. Not all that close.
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The first one hasn't aged well, it's unplayable nowadays. As for Assassins Of Kings, really subjective. I didn't find it anything mind blowing because I'm a book reader, and that didn't really bring what made them great. So yeah, ME2 & 3 over that one.

As for TW3, truly a masterpiece.
 
Andrew Lucas said:
The first one hasn't aged well, it's unplayable nowadays. As for Assassins Of Kings, really subjective. I didn't find it anything mind blowing because I'm a book reader, and that didn't really bring what made them great. So yeah, ME2 & 3 over that one.

As for TW3, truly a masterpiece.
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That is funny because both me and my brother played through The Witcher over the last 18 months. And we didn't find it unplayable at all.

What does being a book reader have to do with anything? Assassins of Kings has better writing (character and narrative tie together), better combat and its mission variety is real. I enjoy all three Mass Effect games, but their narratives are not nearly as natural, and I am not a fan of the super easy combat of the sequels. If you are going to be a chest high wall shooter, you need to have combat at least on the level of Gears.

I'd go:

Wild Hunt
Assassins of Kings
Mass Effect
The Witcher
Mass Effect 3
Mass Effect 2
 
Witcher 3 and Mass Effect 2 are my favorite games of their respective franchises. Mass Effect 3 was mostly fan-service, but I still enjoyed it a lot. Original Mass Effect is probably the most influential CRPG of the last decade.

I think, Witcher 2-3, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided OWE it Mass Effect big time.
 
What does the Witcher own Mass Effect? The first Witcher came out right before Mass Effect, and the sequels do not mirror Mass Effect in anyway the first already didn't.
 
Mass Effect introduced cinematic presentation to CRPG genre.
 
Yeah... about that. The Witcher hasn't really changed the way it tells a story though, the localisation teams and voice acting have just gotten better because CD Project has had the funds to throw at those elements because of the company's other ventures like GOG.
 
DarthSkywalker said:
No they didn't. Why do you think this? Final Fantasy was doing it for years.
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Interaction between characters prior to Mass Effect was quite minimalistic in terms of visual presentation. Mass Effect made a huge leap in that. Ordinary dialogs looked unreal. They designed how it should look, how it should work. Overall, it was something new in terms of combining cinematic experience with RPG. Final Fantasy never did that. More of that, I don't find any role-playing JRPG. They're RPG only because of items and leveling.

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After that all major western RPGs went that way:
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OutOfBoose said:
Interaction between characters prior to Mass Effect was quite minimalistic in terms of visual presentation. Mass Effect made a huge leap in that. Ordinary dialogs looked unreal. They designed how it should look, how it should work. Overall, it was something new in terms of combining cinematic experience with RPG. Final Fantasy never did that. More of that, I don't find any role-playing JRPG. They're RPG only because of items and leveling.

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After that all major western RPGs went that way:
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Dialogue presentation. That is what you are talking about? One, that isn't cinematic presentation. Two, they started doing that in Knights of the Old Republic at least:

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Three, the Witcher has that:

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Four, Mass Effect did some stuff with movement, but those were cutscenes, just like all the other games up to that point. You still had stiff people standing across from each over conversing.

And what JRPG's have you played? There is no more roleplaying then a game like Person 4.
 
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DarthSkywalker said:
That is funny because both me and my brother played through The Witcher over the last 18 months. And we didn't find it unplayable at all.

What does being a book reader have to do with anything? Assassins of Kings has better writing (character and narrative tie together), better combat and its mission variety is real. I enjoy all three Mass Effect games, but their narratives are not nearly as natural, and I am not a fan of the super easy combat of the sequels. If you are going to be a chest high wall shooter, you need to have combat at least on the level of Gears.

I'd go:

Wild Hunt
Assassins of Kings
Mass Effect
The Witcher
Mass Effect 3
Mass Effect 2
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Oh cool, you and your brother. Well, me and my doorman found it unplayable. So, what's your point here? LOL.

Because TW2 barely touched what made his arc in the books so great, the most important characters to the saga are put aside, to give this half new cast more screen time when most of them didn't even return for the sequel, not mentioning the forced Triss romance from the very beginning. It's a good game on its own, not what I expected, though. And certainly not the one to capture the magic from the books.

I hope you could understand that now.
 
Andrew Lucas said:
Oh cool, you and your brother. Well, me and my doorman found it unplayable. So, what's your point here? LOL.

Because TW2 barely touched what made his arc in the books so great, the most important characters to the saga are put aside, to give this half new cast more screen time when most of them didn't even return for the sequel, not mentioning the forced Triss romance from the very beginning. It's a good game on its own, not what I expected, though. And certainly not the one to capture the magic from the books.

I hope you could understand that now.
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If it were unplayable, I don't think we would have finished it. :cwink:

Your point literally has nothing to do with the game, its content, and simply ignores what is happening. The narrative is not only sound, it works beautifully in conjunction with the books. The new characters are great, he hangs out with plenty of book characters, and he is most definitely not just killing time. He is looking for his memories, to understand why the other things are important. And I am not exactly sure what is forced about his relationship with Triss. You don't have to be with her. Shagging women is something Geralt does. Sorry.
 
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DarthSkywalker said:
If it were unplayable, I don't think we would have finished it. :cwink:

Your point literally has nothing to do with the game, its content, and simply ignores what is happening. The narrative is not only sound, it works beautifully in conjunction with the books. And I am not exactly sure what is forced about his relationship with Triss. You don't have to be with her. Shagging women is something Geralt does. Sorry.
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I don't think you got the' hasn't aged well' bit.

It has everything to do with the game, you're just having trouble to deal with that. The books tell the story of Geralt & Ciri. They're the main protagonists. Always were. Also, their tales where lived with Jaskier, Yennefer, Vesemir and etc at their side. TW1-2 literally forgets half of that. I'm not saying they're bad games, but only that it doesn't feel like Geralt's story, whether you agree with that or not, that's your thing, and I'm not questioning what you prefer.

The game starts with Geralt lying besides a naked Triss. They barely had a real thing in the books, and I went for Shani in the original, btw.

Yes, he does. He literally wanted to build a small place for him and Yennefer in the books once they finally reunited. Geralt is one indecisive prick, but he wouldn't cheat on Yen were they together. That's just a thing.

FYI, the Geralt I roleplay is yet to use brothel, or anyone that wants some.
 
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