The Wrestling Thread Has Until 5! - Part 40

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lantern Venom]

Superstar of the year - CM Punk

Face of the year - CM Punk

Heel of the year - Mark Henry

Top 5 Matches of the year -

1. CM Punk vs Cena (MITB)
2. CM Punk vs Cena (Sumerslam)
3. Kofi Kingston vs. Sheamus (Extreme Rules)
4. Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston, 2 out of 3 falls (RAW)
5. Christian vs. Randy Orton (Smackdown)

Promo of the year - CM Punk shoot

PPV of the year - TLC

Best Moment of the year - CM Punk's shoot promo

Worst pushed wrestler of the year -Samoa Joe

Worst big match of the year - Hardy vs Sting

Worst PPV match of the year - Lawler vs Cole (Wrestlemania)

Most improved wrestler of the year - Zack Ryder

Diva of the year - Beth Phoenix

Most consistently good in-ring performer of the year - Kofi Kingston

Best angle of the year -Punk leaving WWE with the WWE belt

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Do you think these two have a special place for you because you were there live?


Glad these two are winning you over a bit.

Ha, I knew I'd hear about it for those.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer:

1. While not necessarily a great technical wrestling display, I thought Miz v. Cena had a lot going in the storyline department. I thought Miz' build to that main event was one of the best build ups and character builds in awhile. That's when Miz was firmly solidified as one of my favorites.

2. I thought there were enough events, with the involvement of The Rock, the pre-match promo packages, and everything else to make it stand out.

3. I was emotionally invested from #1, I actually gave a **** about what happened.

4. I was there live

5. Like I said, I had a hard time remembering all the matches this year, and that was one of the top 5 that actually popped into my head that I enjoyed.

As far as the overall PPV goes, I actually liked Wrestlemania 27, regardless of whether I was there or not. To be honest, I think WM27 would be remembered more fondly if Edge v. Del Rio didn't open the show. I'll be honest, since it's at the beginning of the card, it's a match that easily kind of gets discarded. If it was towards the top (where it should have been), it'd have had an incredibly strong top card with Orton v. CM Punk, Edge v. Del Rio, Undertaker v. Triple H, and Cena v. The Miz.

As far as Rhodes and Ziggler go - they are growing on me. I still think they are in the perfect spot (upper mid card) and shouldn't be put in the upper card / main event yet. Not because they can't handle it. But because I think they are actually uplifting the mid card scene, and that's a desperate need right now. While Rhodes and Ziggler are finally growing on me, I think it's important that they stay in the mid card for the time being to give those belts some much needed legitimacy. Right now might be the best I've seen the mid card scene in quite some time. I don't want to see it get lost in translation to force push Ziggler and Rhodes into the main event scene.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Ok guys, 5 fueds/angles you'd like to see in the WWE in 2012?

Ha, I knew I'd hear about it for those.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer:

1. While not necessarily a great technical wrestling display, I thought Miz v. Cena had a lot going in the storyline department. I thought Miz' build to that main event was one of the best build ups and character builds in awhile. That's when Miz was firmly solidified as one of my favorites.

2. I thought there were enough events, with the involvement of The Rock, the pre-match promo packages, and everything else to make it stand out.

3. I was emotionally invested from #1, I actually gave a **** about what happened.

4. I was there live

5. Like I said, I had a hard time remembering all the matches this year, and that was one of the top 5 that actually popped into my head that I enjoyed.

I didn't feel they had any chemistry in the ring at all but I can see how you got to the place you did with it as the build I hated you loved, and that can make or break a match. One thing I always recall is that Miz banged his head hard early on and was concussed I believe, yet he finished the match to his credit.

As far as the overall PPV goes, I actually liked Wrestlemania 27, regardless of whether I was there or not. To be honest, I think WM27 would be remembered more fondly if Edge v. Del Rio didn't open the show. I'll be honest, since it's at the beginning of the card, it's a match that easily kind of gets discarded. If it was towards the top (where it should have been), it'd have had an incredibly strong top card with Orton v. CM Punk, Edge v. Del Rio, Undertaker v. Triple H, and Cena v. The Miz.

That's fair enough, I hated the build for all those matches but did enjoy Punk vs Orton.

As far as Rhodes and Ziggler go - they are growing on me. I still think they are in the perfect spot (upper mid card) and shouldn't be put in the upper card / main event yet. Not because they can't handle it. But because I think they are actually uplifting the mid card scene, and that's a desperate need right now. While Rhodes and Ziggler are finally growing on me, I think it's important that they stay in the mid card for the time being to give those belts some much needed legitimacy. Right now might be the best I've seen the mid card scene in quite some time. I don't want to see it get lost in translation to force push Ziggler and Rhodes into the main event scene.

With Rhodes I agree as I think he could do with another 6 months with the IC belt as his mission was to make it relevant, but I think Dolph needs to move up at the latest, post- Mania. Punk needs a top heel and the show doesn't have one for him, I think Dolph can become that guy.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

5 angles I'd like to see in 2012:

1. The return of the monster heels. Mark Henry. Big Show maybe? Brodus Clay perhaps. Give us villains we believe will kill the heroes. Miz and Del Rio aren't cutting it.

2. CM Punk vs. Jericho to find out the best in the world.

3. Rebuild the tag team division.

4. A finish to the anonymous RAW GM story.

5. Rock vs. Heel Cena from Mania to SS.

 

[Metallo]

Punk vs HHH at Wrestlemania

Kharma vs The Divas of Doom

Jericho vs Punk feud

Cody Rhodes vs Goldust. Title vs career at some point would be cool

Main event push for Dolph Ziggler. Against Punk or Cena.

btw heres a cool pic.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Ok guys, 5 fueds/angles you'd like to see in the WWE in 2012?

HA! Most of what I want to see revolves around Jericho coming back:

Jericho v. CM Punk
Jericho v. The Miz
The Miz v. CM Punk
Cena heel turn leading into or coming out of Wrestlemania
Kane regains his bad assery of 1999 - 2000 when I first started watching and he was one of my favorites.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Ok guys, 5 fueds/angles you'd like to see in the WWE in 2012?

1. John Cena (heel) vs. Rey Mysterio
2. Dolph Ziggler as a major main event star
3. Kharma running roughshod over the WWE Divas
4. If not Kharma, someone with legit talent or a converted female MMA fighter as WWE Diva like Cyborg or Carano.
5. Daniel Bryan as a legit player in the WWE.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

OOh,I wanna play.

Superstar of the year - CM Punk

Face of the year - Zack Ryder

Heel of the year - Mark Henry

Top 5 Matches of the year -

1.CM Punk vs John Cena(Money in The Bank)
2.Randy Orton vs CM Punk(WrestleMania)
3.Randy Orton vs Christian(Summerslam)
4.Miz vs Rey Mysterio(Raw)
5.Mark Henry vs Big Show(Vengance,Mostly for the Ring collapse)

Promo of the year -Punk's Shoot on the establishment

PPV of the year - Money in The Bank

Best Moment of the year - The Rock's Return(Goosebumps)

Worst pushed wrestler of the year -TIE:John Morrison and Samoa Joe

Worst big match of the year -Hardy vs Sting

Worst PPV match of the year -Hardy vs Sting(It's in a league of it's own)

Most improved wrestler of the year -R-Truth

Diva of the year - Beth Phoenix(Could have been Kharma)

Most consistently good in-ring performer of the year -Daniel Bryan

Best angle of the year -CM Punk vs The Establishment or Mark Henry The Monster

 

[Hunter Rider]

When I put the worst push category I was actually thinking of wrestlers that shouldn't have been pushed, but I see most have taken it as wrestlers whose pushes were badly handled lol, in which case I'd say Christian.

Some interesting angle selections.

Mine would be:

1. CM Punk and Triple H (Ideally at Mania)
2. Heel Cena and The Undertaker
3. CM Punk and Dolph Ziggler (Perhaps Dolph's first title win)
4. CM Punk and Kane (Kane wants to destroy the symbol of the new WWE)
5. John Morrison and The Miz (Yes I still hold out hope)

 

[The Sage]

Great lists everyone. I've got to get in the mix and come up with mine.

 

[Wheels]

My 5 angles would be:

1. CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler
2. Zack Ryder vs Cody Rhodes
3. vicious heel Cena becoming the biggest heel since Triple H.
4. Kings of Wrestling debut in WWE.
5. Brodus Clay return

This isn't really an angle, so I wanted to through it in.

Drop the bling bling belt.

 

[Heretic]

Superstar of the year - CM Punk

Face of the year - The Rock

Heel of the year - Mark Henry

Top 5 Matches of the year -

1.CM Punk vs John Cena(Money in The Bank)
2. I never keep track of this stuff...
3.
4.
5.

Promo of the year -Punk's first Pipe Bomb

PPV of the year - Money in The Bank

Best Moment of the year - Punk winning/leaving with the belt

Worst pushed wrestler of the year - I'll divide this up...
***Least deserving push: Dixie Carter being the focus of the main feud of TNA for over a year
***Most botched push: Kharma, by default (with Christian, Del Rio and Beth Phoenix close behind)
***Guy they should push, but dont: Alex Shelley

Worst big match of the year -Hardy vs Sting

Worst PPV match of the year -Hardy vs Sting

Most improved wrestler of the year - Dolph Ziggler (Cody is a close 2nd)

Diva of the year - Um, Madison Rayne (since Kharma and Beth were botched from the start and at least Madison had a few solid good months before it went to hell)

Most consistently good in-ring performer of the year -Sin Cara. Just kidding, Dolph Ziggler

Best angle of the year -Mark Henry is angry (the punk angle was botched)

 

[Van Petrol]

My 5 angles would be:

1. CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler
2. Zack Ryder vs Cody Rhodes
3. vicious heel Cena becoming the bigget heel since Triple H.
4. Kings of Wrestling debut in WWE.
5. Brodus Clay return

This isn't really an angle, so I wanted to through it in.

Drop the bling bling belt.

This is all I really want.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[JabarR]

WWE is in talks with Shed Media, the company behind Tough Enough, to help produce new reality programming for the WWE Network.

With WWE looking to run new reality-based programming, the company is to film television episodes the week that they are set to air on television. This is unlike what most reality shows do (ie. UFC’s Ultimate Fighter), which is to film the entire season before the first episode airs. Filming the whole season at once allows producers to see where storylines are going and produce the show accordingly.

Booking the show on a week-to-week basis will hurt their ability to tell long-term shorelines, which some have joked is similar to how WWE television is written.

(Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

 

[SuperFerret]

See, I respect that because it puts reality back into reality TV. There are no storylines in real life.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Milu]

Drop the bling bling belt.

Yes. Even Cena thinks that design's run its course.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

My Top 5 Potential angles for 2012(In no particular order)

1.Beth vs Kharma
2.Kurt Back in WWE
3.R-Truth WWE title run
4.Motor City Machine Guns return
5.Jericho vs Punk

 

[bullets]

My 5 angles would be:

1. CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler
2. Zack Ryder vs Cody Rhodes
3. vicious heel Cena becoming the biggest heel since Triple H.
4. Kings of Wrestling debut in WWE.
5. Brodus Clay return

This isn't really an angle, so I wanted to through it in.

Drop the bling bling belt.

Good list mine is Jericho/punk,Jericho/undertaker,punk/heel triple h, punk/heelcena,and Chrstian/Daniel Bryan. Also. Kane /orton

 

[NotFadeAway]

I am starting to believe, or atleast I hope, the angle with Masked Kane will result in Kane forcing Cena to revert back to the violent, chain carrying thugaboo of 03-04. Everyone is questioning why Kane ripped off Cena's shirt Monday and the answer is obvious. Kane is character driven by hate, and he is going to force Cena to be hateful in time to face The Rock. Speaking of Kane, it's amazing how the character hit an all time low this past summer when he basically tried to run away from Mark Henry, but now with the mask and old entrance back it's like 1997 again.

I said earlier, keep Kane hot heading into Mania and put him against Sheamus. Kane can be kept hot even if he loses to Cena by it requiring multiple AA's and a chain shot to keep him down for the three count.

 

[bullets]

My 5 angles would be:

1. CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler
2. Zack Ryder vs Cody Rhodes
3. vicious heel Cena becoming the biggest heel since Triple H.
4. Kings of Wrestling debut in WWE.
5. Brodus Clay return

This isn't really an angle, so I wanted to through it in.

Drop the bling bling belt.

Good list mine is Jericho/punk,Jericho/undertaker,punk/heel triple h, punk/heelcena,and Chrstian/Daniel Bryan. Also. Kane /orton

 

[bullets]

My 5 angles would be:

1. CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler
2. Zack Ryder vs Cody Rhodes
3. vicious heel Cena becoming the biggest heel since Triple H.
4. Kings of Wrestling debut in WWE.
5. Brodus Clay return

This isn't really an angle, so I wanted to through it in.

Drop the bling bling belt.

Good list mine is Jericho/punk,Jericho/undertaker,punk/heel triple h, punk/heelcena,and Chrstian/Daniel Bryan. Also. Kane /orton

 

[mjdiddy1]

I am starting to believe, or atleast I hope, the angle with Masked Kane will result in Kane forcing Cena to revert back to the violent, chain carrying thugaboo of 03-04. Everyone is questioning why Kane ripped off Cena's shirt Monday and the answer is obvious. Kane is character driven by hate, and he is going to force Cena to be hateful in time to face The Rock. Speaking of Kane, it's amazing how the character hit an all time low this past summer when he basically tried to run away from Mark Henry, but now with the mask and old entrance back it's like 1997 again.

I said earlier, keep Kane hot heading into Mania and put him against Sheamus. Kane can be kept hot even if he loses to Cena by it requiring multiple AA's and a chain shot to keep him down for the three count.

I'm in total agreement with you. It seems like the writers are trying go deeper and metaphoric in their writing as of late. Even in the 'It Begins' trailer I believe it is Jericho but the writers are trying to get you to think now (hard to believe isn't). The boy once said the girl was the key to his return and he obviously cant come back without the wwe fans caring.... yet he recently said in the last promo that he cannot help the girl anymore so if he comes as a heel he cant "save us" anymore. the boy is jericho and the girl is either the wwe, the wwe fans, or both..... its a complex metaphor for him coming back again but he will not come back to save us.