The Wrestling Thread Is At Home Until Further Notice - - Part 141

[TheNextNolan22]

Hulk Hogan in that Radioshack Super Bowl commercial!

 

[Specter313]

Hulk Hogan in that Radioshack Super Bowl commercial!

Slaughter too!

 

[TX85]

I marked for Hogan in vintage 80's attire in that commercial!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Now that I think about it, I DID see Slaughter in that commercial!

 

[Hunter Rider]

And that's the other thing. WWE apparently hasn't explained to their talents how the WWE Network featuring Wrestlemania XXX will impact the bonuses they normally receive.

I won't argue that the way Punk left was unprofessional. It could've been done differently. But it's like I had said, it's hard to not understand since it's something most people have felt before in their jobs, including myself.

Also, while him having a long historical reign is good to have on paper, if you look back, he only headlined a few of the shows despite being WWE Champion. That was one of the problems in Punk's mind likely: He's champion, but not the man. John Cena was still the focus. Think about it:

Royal Rumble 2012: obviously the match is the show closer here, no problem with that.

Elimination Chamber 2012 Headliner: Cena vs Kane in an Ambulance match. The Elimination Chamber match for WWE title was the show's opening match!

Wrestlemania 28 Headliner: Rock vs Cena. Understandable here

Extreme Rules 2012 Headliner: Cena vs Brock. Understandable here.

Over the Limit 2012 Headliner: John Cena vs John Laurinaitis. Yes, this was the headlining main-event, not the WWE title match between Punk and Bryan.

No Way Out 2012 Headliner: Cena vs Big Show in a steel cage. Not the triple-threat for the WWE title match.

WWE Money in the Bank 2012 Headliner: RAW's Money in the Bank match, which featured John Cena. The title match wasn't.

And the rest of the year, the title match was the headliner because A) Rock made an appearance and said he was going to challenge the champion at the Royal Rumble, so automatically they had to make the belt important again. B) Cena challenged for the belt in the next several PPVs, and they were trying to push Ryback.

So yes, Punk had that great historic reign but he wasn't the central focus. It was still John Cena, despite Punk having the belt.

And then 2013, he lost to the Rock twice, lost to Cena on RAW, lost to the Undertaker, lost MITB and then lost to Brock. So every high profile match he had he lost. His match with Jericho he won but I wouldn't consider it high profile, IMO. And then he faced Ryback and Axel, the Wyatts and the Shield. Ryback and Axel are boring midcarders. The Wyatts and Shield are midcarders as well.

So it did feel like he was shunted back down after his reign. It was almost as if they Jericho'd him. Remember after Jericho lost the Undisputed title, he went on a PPV match losing streak that lasted until September? Jericho took that in stride, but obviously Punk isn't that type of guy.

And then whatever arguments on creative's decisions and their use of talent. It's just hard to say he comes across as a baby here. Unprofessional? I'll agree with that. Disrespectful? Probably, but he probably felt disrespected as well.

This is a good summation, the words respect and professionalism are being used a lot lately, but they go both ways, WWE don't seem to feel they have to treat the talent with respect or professionalism, they treat them based on the whim of the elite few voices that make the calls, and it's pretty clear calls are made based on preference not professionalism.

In Punk's reign he should have went last on all those events in truth, the bottom line is IF you want your audience to see him and the title as important you have to SHOW them. People have bought the PPV by the time it starts, they aren't going to revolt based on what goes on last.

Punk's WWE title reign is something WWE went 80-85% of the way with, but they didn't have him close enough PPV's and they turned him heel simply to facilitate a WWE title win for Rock that was never needed. In the end he lost every major match he was in, in 2013, show me a year that happened to any other top guy.

 

[Specter313]

I marked for Hogan in vintage 80's attire in that commercial!

Now that I think about it, I DID see Slaughter in that commercial!

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[The Sage]

Many people in WWE are "not unhappy" that CM Punk walked out on the company last week, according to Dave Meltzer. Meltzer stated in a recent installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that there we a lot of negativity towards Punk from several people in the company.

Meltzer also noted that the reason Vince McMahon wants Punk to stick around is because he feels there aren't many top WWE Superstars in the company right now. As for why Punk walked out, Meltzer said there may not be just one specific reason.

As reported earlier, Punk was not excited to face Triple H at this year's WrestleMania pay-per-view. With his contract expiring in July and people within the company not expecting him to re-sign, he likely knew the direction that the match would go in.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/393394771.php

Translation: At Mania, Punk was going to do that J-O-B.

 

[sweetre15]

So apparently Cena suffered some kind of eye injury and had to miss a house show. That's going to really put WWE brass in the crapper if Cena ends up having to take some kind of long term break at this point.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Many people in WWE are "not unhappy" that CM Punk walked out on the company last week, according to Dave Meltzer. Meltzer stated in a recent installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that there we a lot of negativity towards Punk from several people in the company.

Meltzer also noted that the reason Vince McMahon wants Punk to stick around is because he feels there aren't many top WWE Superstars in the company right now. As for why Punk walked out, Meltzer said there may not be just one specific reason.

As reported earlier, Punk was not excited to face Triple H at this year's WrestleMania pay-per-view. With his contract expiring in July and people within the company not expecting him to re-sign, he likely knew the direction that the match would go in.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/393394771.php

Translation: At Mania, Punk was going to do that J-O-B.

Then I can totally understand why he walked.

 

[Soapy]

 

[Kaleb]

Many people in WWE are "not unhappy" that CM Punk walked out on the company last week, according to Dave Meltzer. Meltzer stated in a recent installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that there we a lot of negativity towards Punk from several people in the company.

Meltzer also noted that the reason Vince McMahon wants Punk to stick around is because he feels there aren't many top WWE Superstars in the company right now. As for why Punk walked out, Meltzer said there may not be just one specific reason.

As reported earlier, Punk was not excited to face Triple H at this year's WrestleMania pay-per-view. With his contract expiring in July and people within the company not expecting him to re-sign, he likely knew the direction that the match would go in.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/393394771.php

Translation: At Mania, Punk was going to do that J-O-B.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

amounted to nothing? what woukd you have a record title reign amount to? You cant keep him in the title scene for ever, it is good to have him away for it for a while, even the Rock and Austin had time away from the title scene in their heyday! And it's not like Punk started having feuds with Ryder, he took on Taker at Mania, Brock Lesnar in the Sumemr and has been used to help to legitimise The Shield and Wyatts as forces to be reckoned with - he cant be in the title scene 24/7 and from all accounts he was tentatively planned to be in it again later this year anyway

With that said I think it is a work anyway

A good majority of his title reign, he wasn't even in the main feuds. He didn't get a Wrestlemania main event.

 

[OnTheAir]

In for the obligatory "Halftime Heat" joke...feel free to make up your own!

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[Soapy]

Did Punk main event any PPV during his title run that didn't involve a match with Rock or Cena?

 

[cabel]

Whatever opinion you have regarding how big a match with Triple H is, I think we can agree that there is no reason for Triple H to get the win. Especially considering that Punk already jobbed to Triple H in 2011.

 

[SpideyFan866]

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Whatever opinion you have regarding how big a match with Triple H is, I think we can agree that there is no reason for Triple H to get the win. Especially considering that Punk already jobbed to Triple H in 2011.

And thus, killed his momentum big time.

 

[CharlieCluster7]

Good riddance.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

WWE officials not happy with the CM Punk situation going pubic:

It's being reported that WWE officials are not happy that C.M. Punk's situation with the company has been made public and that so many details have been leaked out.

They were hoping to keep it a relatively private issue between themselves and Punk while they try to work it out. It's also being reported that WWE Chairman & CEO Mr. Vince McMahon is handling the situation personally and doesn't even want his son-in-law, WWE COO Triple H, to be heavily involved in it.

McMahon wants Punk to stay with the company, while Triple H apparently has mixed feelings about Punk staying.

Punk's exit has definitely caused a situation within WWE creative. They are trying to come up with plans for Punk if he returns and they are also trying to decide what they want to do if he doesn't return.

Regarding WrestleMania 30, it's now being reported that the only match that is fairly certain is John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt.

 

[bullets]

This is a good summation, the words respect and professionalism are being used a lot lately, but they go both ways, WWE don't seem to feel they have to treat the talent with respect or professionalism, they treat them based on the whim of the elite few voices that make the calls, and it's pretty clear calls are made based on preference not professionalism.

In Punk's reign he should have went last on all those events in truth, the bottom line is IF you want your audience to see him and the title as important you have to SHOW them. People have bought the PPV by the time it starts, they aren't going to revolt based on what goes on last.

Punk's WWE title reign is something WWE went 80-85% of the way with, but they didn't have him close enough PPV's and they turned him heel simply to facilitate a WWE title win for Rock that was never needed. In the end he lost every major match he was in, in 2013, show me a year that happened to any other top guy.

It's really a shame some people don't understand this. Punk doesn't want to settle for mediocrity. Austin would of walked out a lot sooner if they tried to pull that b.s. on him.

I was watching the ascension ceremony again recently. Punk was mocking the entire segment t:



That radio shack commercial is awesome. I've watched it a dozen times.

 

[bullets]

Good riddance.

To you

 

[TheNextNolan22]

It's hard to not see why Punk mocked that segment

 

[The Sage]

Did Punk main event any PPV during his title run that didn't involve a match with Rock or Cena?

WWE TLC 2011, which Cena wasn't on the show at all. And then the PPV one on one with Ryback in which Cena again wasn't on the card.

Whatever opinion you have regarding how big a match with Triple H is, I think we can agree that there is no reason for Triple H to get the win. Especially considering that Punk already jobbed to Triple H in 2011.

Exactly. If anything, Punk could've beaten Triple H and then go out putting Bryan, Ambrose, or even Reigns over on his way out. Give the win to someone who's working full-time and use the big moment.

 

[Kaleb]

Regarding Punk being unhappy about facing Triple H at WrestleMania XXX, Punk knew his contract expires in July and with people not expecting him to re-sign, he likely knew the direction that the match would go

 

[OnTheAir]

TNA One Night Only: Joker's Wild ppv spoilers, courtesy of pwinsider.com:

Spoiler

*Gail Kim pinned Shauna.

*They did a Battlebowl style lottery with names being picked out.

*Douglas Williams and Magnus defeated Chris Sabin and Gunner.

*Samoa Joe and Bad Bones defeated Christopher Daniels and Robbie E.

*Rockstar and Bully Ray defeated Mr. Anderson and Austin Aries.

*Kazarian and Ethan Carter III defeated Eric Young and Curry Man.

*The Wolves defeated James Storm and Bobby Roode.

*Abyss and Samuel Shaw defeated Zema Ion and Jesse Godderz.

*Ethan Carter III won the The Joker's Wild Gauntlet.