The Dark Knight Rises Theme of the Third movie

[Maximus One]

Maybe we could get a scene with Batman truly questiong himself about being Batman. Sort of like doubting himself and wondering if its his fault the way the things have escalated and pondering whether or not Hes the cause for all the freak who keep popping up every. Kinda like a stary arc from Spider Man.Maybe that but I also love the redemtion idea as well although i see that only playing out if Bats has to do some things in this movie that tremendous gurlit and anguish and if Blaming himself for Rachel death. what do you think?

 

[Maximus One]

HAHA I just thought of somethin that is rather funny Im really stoned and i forgot what is so gonna say

 

[Man Who Laughed]

Yes. That's what I've wanted for a while now. Batman needs to question his actions. He escalated this war into what it is, and from what I've heard so far, Joker realizes that, and takes advantage of it. If a person gets pushed enough, they'll eventually fall.

The one thing I don't want to see is Bruce deciding to quit, and then making a glorious comeback for the final battle. Been there, done that. Should he question himself, Bats should realize that he started this war and he needs to finish it.

 

[omerhead]

I think Batman should be less like Spiderman as possible, no guilty theme.

 

[wrhssaxensemble]

might some dumb but masks.... Batman wears a mask that is Bruce Wayne, Two-Face wore Harvey as a mask of sorts: a way to cover his evil half (Even though he is scarred in TDK), and Black Mask

 

[J.Howlett]

From the spoilers that have leaked out after the press screenings, I think it's pretty obvious that the theme of the sequel will be redemption and acceptance for Bruce and the people of Gotham.

It's natural set up that way with the ending we're getting with The Dark Knight.

 

[Closerframe]

After reading reviews about the ending it doesn't even sound like a sequel is necessary, Batman can't redeem himself to the people of Gotham because he's not Spider-Man or Superman when he's seen by the public eye. He's a creature of the night an urban legend to most, so Batman just has to continue protecting and accept that Gotham will never fully accept him. No one has seen the movie so no one knows if he even accepts Bruce or not. The whole purpose of The Dark Knight is so Bruce can stop being Batman and get back to a normal life, but that is something that will never happen so he's just forced to live a double life. Simple as that...

 

[J.Howlett]

The only reason I suggested the "redemption" theme is because it's time to show Batman as a hero..eventhough, what you described is probably more close to the mythos than making him an all out hero, even if the PD and public don't complete accept his existence.

 

[omerhead]

Well, at least Batman doesn't give up like Superman or Spiderman.

 

[Closerframe]

Well, at least Batman doesn't give up like Superman or Spiderman.

Well I wouldn't say neither one really gave up, Superman can never give up being superman. He's not human like Spider-Man or Batman, he was born Superman. Spider-Man wanted to give up because he felt that him being Spider-Man that he could not live a normal life. Batman is Batman because he wants to be he lived in poverty and lived the life of a criminal, he only wants to protect as his father did.

 

[Man Who Laughed]

But what's interesting about that is that Bruce really can't give up either. Maybe that's part of why him and Supes are so close(in the comics). Kindred spirits. Superman's disguise is Clark Kent. Bruce Wayne's disguise is himself. Bruce needs Batman as much as, if not more than, Batman needs Bruce. I mean, sure he can quit, but only if he's okay with being a shell of a man the rest of his life.

 

[omerhead]

I agree.

 

[BobJM]

The 3rd film should center around Batman's continuing efforts to rid the city of crime (obviously), but also show that he has learned that he can't fight this war on his own.

Show the Batman fail at one point in the film and rise up from his mistakes to redeem himself and become the savior that he originally set out to become.

Without Rachel or Harvey Dent by his side anymore (his relationship with Gordon may even be tarnished with the events of TDK), Bruce Wayne is truly alone and realizes that he is on a downward spiral. This gives him the impetus to accept the unconventional help of the Catwoman and reinvigorate his friendship with Gordon.

So, to sum it all up, the theme: REDEMPTION and ACCEPTANCE.

 

[omerhead]

That's a really great idea, the right theme for the third film. this thread should end now.

 

[Sharkboy]

I don't think the nolanverse will ever show full acceptance of batman as a hero, he is still a vigilante and will always probably be seen as a menace to alot of people, but if they can convey that what he is doing is nessesary if not for him then the people of gotham, then a third film is warranted. Don't expect and clean cut fate for the batman by the end of the trilogy, i expect it to pose more questions (moral/personal rather than plot) than answers.

 

[anrrd_2]

^and i wouldnt have it any other way

 

[anrrd_2]

good news guys...looks like nolan might not be done with the batiness quite yet....i know it doesnt really say anything definitive about a third film. but it certainly seems like he has not completed his vision for the batman just yet

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=57090

 

[Victarion]

Someone mentioned another leader other than Two-Face, maybe Pengiun as the bridge between the traditional mob element and the freak element?

 

[wrhssaxensemble]

Penguin could bridge it but I know Nolan said he wouldn't do Penguin, and I dont think he should be forced to (just remember Venom in Spiderman 3). But Scarface and Black Mask could bridge that as well and Nolan might be more favorable toward one of them

 

[Man Who Laughed]

Black Mask could bridge that gap beautifully, and Scarface has so many psychological elements to expand on... f'n yeah.

 

[TLBorlando]

The 3rd film should center around Batman's continuing efforts to rid the city of crime (obviously), but also show that he has learned that he can't fight this war on his own.

Show the Batman fail at one point in the film and rise up from his mistakes to redeem himself and become the savior that he originally set out to become.

Without Rachel or Harvey Dent by his side anymore (his relationship with Gordon may even be tarnished with the events of TDK), Bruce Wayne is truly alone and realizes that he is on a downward spiral. This gives him the impetus to accept the unconventional help of the Catwoman and reinvigorate his friendship with Gordon.

So, to sum it all up, the theme: REDEMPTION and ACCEPTANCE.

From what I have heard, the Batman fails the majority of the time in The Dark Knight. Considering how TDK ends, you are right. The theme for Batman in a potential third film should be redemption.

I don't think Gordon (which I'm guessing will be the Commissioner) will go all out to find The Batman in a third movie but I might be wrong. He smashes the bat signal with an axe, so Gordon's faith in him has diminished. But, I have heard some things about TDK that I can't go into detail about.

 

[honsq90]

Perhaps Nolan could show how Bruce Wayne/Batman deals with the tragic death of Lucius Fox, which happens in the third film? People trying to bankrupt Wayne Enterprises assassinate Lucius Fox and now Batman has to find someone else he could trust. He still has to protect his identity after all.

Just a random thought.

 

[kyuubijavi1]

The theme for the 3rd movie should be Batman finally becoming a true hero
the first hinted at it
the second will destroy it
and finally the end will show the audience the true hero that is Batman

 

[darkseid26]

want a villian in the next film that will get in batmans head, make him think he not what the city needs, make him think he's the reason for all the badness in gotham, that batman is the reason the freaks come out. this will make bruce think does the city need batman is batman making things worse.

 

[BobJM]

Sounds like something the Riddler would do....