The Dark Knight Things The Dark Knight got Right/Wrong

Wrong:
Joker licking his lips all the time
Bale's voice

Good:
Everything else
 
Wrong:
Joker licking his lips all the time

though it was a little distracting at times it was probably the most realistic part about the Joker in this film. Have you ever bitten your cheek or had an ulcer or cold sore on your lip? Chances are you licked them plenty of times. With a guy as uncaring as the Joker when it comes to manners, he'd have no shame to constantly lick his scars as even to this day they feel odd.

As for Bale's voice..it grows on me the more I hear it. I can still make fun of it all the time about how silly it can sound but all in all it works for how he has portrayed Batman.
 
The one thing that I had a slight problem with was how telegraphed Ramirez and Wuertz were. First, Harvey cites them to Gordon as people he'd investigated. Yes, he'd investigated a lot of people, but those were the two he specifically NAMED. Then Wuertz is the one at the party. Ramirez is in many scenes with Gordon. Wuertz is in multiple scenes. Ramirez is listed a second time as having a relative in a hospital. I understand that Gordon's too oblivious/idealistic to realize what they're up to before it's too late, but it was so damn obvious from the start of the film. I wish they'd been a little more subtle. I also find it a little hard to believe that Harvey, after ranting about police corruption and almost getting killed in a massive chase, would get into a car with one of "scum." More than that, though, I just thought it was incredibly unsubtle that their names came up eight thousand times. Was anybody surprised when the two cops that helped the Joker were the two cops who were mentioned the most?

As far as Bale's voice goes, my problem with it was that it was unintelligible at times. I don't have an issue with it being low or silly, but there were a couple of lines I didn't understand at all the first time I saw it, and I've heard people in the theater whisper "what did he say?"
 
Wrong? You must be kidding right? This is just THE BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE EVER. Period.

Right? Everything. It's perfect film. We will be talking about TDK in the next 20 years. This is the film that ended the Donner Superman myth.
 
I swear im the only person that digs bale's batvoice.
No ur not :woot:

Right:
- Joker: everything was amazing in this character :yay:... Heath was simply outstanding.
- Batman: yeah folks, i even loved the voice :oldrazz:
- Dent: another fantastic performance. I felt sympathy for Dent and i choose to live in denial and think he lives :hehe:

Wrong:
- Rachel = Maggie :nono:
- Gotham look, it just didnt seem like the one from BB to me.
 
joker's character was spot on, just maybe not his appearance. but i liked all that they did with the joker. so creepy and crazy.

i also liked batman's voice! it fits the character well. i can't imagine him with a regular voice, he needs that intense growl to carry the scene along.

haha, i agree completely with Bim here. i want to believe that harvey dent is alive, no matter how dead obvious it is that he's dead. in my mind, he's still alive.
 
Batman s voice was fine but it got really cheesy when he mae the speech to two face and gordon

and when he was telling the joker that the people in gotham are better than the joker

other than that i thought it was fine
 
really people stop complaining do you really want Batman and Robin back

get off your high horses so what the Joker wasnt prema white did it change anything about his character nope nothing at all

Batman's voice is extreamly deep so what Bale can either fix it up in the next or leave it be this makes no difference at all

the batsuit is armor and not cloth get over it for batman to work in the real world ( Nolans World ) he would need that suit or else he would of been dead a long time ago

so really get over it cause if I was Nolan or Bale and i see all you fanboys *****ing and moaning i would say screw it and let some idiot take over and ruin the franchise all over again
 
The Good

Two-face looks good

Gordon as a character and the way he is acted seems convincing.

Didn't go with the usual thump the crap out of each other and save the day ending

Rachael gets blown up.

Batman gets seen high above rooftops alot

Joker doesn't die

Never seen a bigger pile of money burn in a movie

The joker is kinda the center of attention but the movie doesn't overdo his screen time

The bad

No style, boring, boring, boring

Stupid looking batman suit

Batman is no longer fear and terror, he is a guy who hangs around the police station and has a soar throat

No Robin

No batcave

No bat's for the matter, non, not one bat, at all

Didn't his parents die? I guess he forgot.

Two-face dies (I think anyway) transformation from good to evil'ish wasn't convincing

Heath Ledger was not as great as people make him out to be

Makeup

overlong

pretentious

Batman Begins had emotion to it, I didn't get this from this film
 
The Good

The bad

No Robin

No bat's for the matter, non, not one bat, at all

Heath Ledger was not as great as people make him out to be

Makeup

pretentious

Batman Begins had emotion to it, I didn't get this from this film

Please jump off a bridge or in front of a speeding semi!
 
Thing got right: Everything
Things got wrong: Nothing
 
Two-face dies (I think anyway) transformation from good to evil'ish wasn't convincing

But the fact is, and maybe people didn't catch this, Harvey was flawed from the begining. He had problems with his anger. You see him punch the guy at the begining and whilst on first viewing you may root for Dent it is different upon reflection.
He ends up threatening a mental patient. Is it any wonder a man like this cracked up in the manner he did? His flaws made the transformation very believable.
 
But the fact is, and maybe people didn't catch this, Harvey was flawed from the begining. He had problems with his anger. You see him punch the guy at the begining and whilst on first viewing you may root for Dent it is different upon reflection.
He ends up threatening a mental patient. Is it any wonder a man like this cracked up in the manner he did? His flaws made the transformation very believable.

I still think Batman: Tas done a better job of presenting him as flawed before hand. Even when he is about to kill the mental patient, he seems controlled, with tas it was like short bursts of rage.
 
But TAS got so many more things wrong. Design, voicing, poor plots, no death.
The Dark Knight version of the character was brilliant because it portrays Dent in the way he is best shown. As a ruthless, deranged vigilante. Just like The Long Halloween.
He's like that in his best appearances. The problem comes from those writers and fans who think that he should be a straight up criminal. See Batman Forever for more of that mentality.
We could have got something a lot worse. And as it is we got a brilliant performance from Eckhart, a great theme for the character, superb design of the scars and the film never felt crowded. Two-Face was a threat in his own right, not a second fiddle villain to The Joker.
 
He ends up threatening a mental patient. Is it any wonder a man like this cracked up in the manner he did? His flaws made the transformation very believable.

For the record, I thought the Harvey/Two face Transformation was great in TDK. But I felt he wasn't threatening the mental patient because he was flawed and wanted to kill him. Joker "killed" Gordon and Harvey's girlfriend was named the next victim. He knew he had to do something drastic. It was personal now. So he stuck a gun in the patients face and scared him. He wasn't going to kill him. His coin is double sided("Heads you keep your head") so he just flipped it a few times to scare him. His woman was threatened and he was scared and had to do something about it. And he punched the guy in court because he was pointing a freakin' gun at him. He was defending himself. That's how I see it.
 
The guy was ill. He didn't know what he was doing. And yet Dent used bully boy tactics on him. Tactics he uses later in the film when he's headhunting the crooked cops.
 
But TAS got so many more things wrong. Design, voicing, poor plots, no death.
The Dark Knight version of the character was brilliant because it portrays Dent in the way he is best shown. As a ruthless, deranged vigilante. Just like The Long Halloween.
He's like that in his best appearances. The problem comes from those writers and fans who think that he should be a straight up criminal. See Batman Forever for more of that mentality.
We could have got something a lot worse. And as it is we got a brilliant performance from Eckhart, a great theme for the character, superb design of the scars and the film never felt crowded. Two-Face was a threat in his own right, not a second fiddle villain to The Joker.

The voicing was excellent in Tas. The "reveal" in tas is still better than that of TDK imo. I'm not arguing he should be a straight up criminal, which, he shouldn't, I'm arguing the transformation wasn't convincing, even when he's flipping the coin about to blow Gordon's son's head off explaining about chance, he seems far too composed, not edgy at all.

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Right: Everything!

Wrong: Absolutely Nothing!
 

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