Apocalypse Things you didn't like in X-Men: Apocalypse (Spoilers)

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Okay, to those who have seen the movie, let's enumerate some of the things we didn't really like about it. This is, of course, not to bring this epic piece down. It's just to express some of the things we didn't sit well with us. The movie does have a 50% rating in RT now.


Spoilers are aplenty, so beware!


Okay, let me start:

1. I was personally disappointed that the "only" fight scene was the final destruction. Sure, there was the brief fight scene in the intro in Egypt and the "rescue" scene, but I was surprised that they were already engaging in the final battle with Apocalypse toward the end. I didn't feel the build up immediately.

2. I feel that Havok's death was badly done. I personally don't mind him dying, but I wish he remained alive toward the final battle and have him killed by Apocalypse or some of the horsemen. That way, the emotional weight would've been heavier. We could also see more of him in action since it was his last.

3. Jubillee. This one is more personal. I know she's just a supporting character. I didn't mind she was in any of the battles, but I guess I just wanted to see a display of her power. And she wasn't in the "final scene" where the Xmen were assembling in the Danger Room. Though, I guess this justifies her being more of a student at this time. Maybe it's just me clinging on to the 90s cartoons where she had more chance to show off her powers.

4. The team didn't feel like a "team" in the final battle. I don't know how to explain this. There were parts where I was being pumped up already, then somehow, I got lost.

5. I think the Phoenix Force wasn't handled well? I know we've had some "premonitions" going on with Jean and this must've hinted some of her power, but I feel like it was a bit too "abrupt?" I honestly don't know how the Phoenix would've been handled well in just one movie. I like the firebird effect though.

6. There were some parts where Sophie Turner's delivery of lines felt... bland?

I'm sure I have other things going on in my mind, but this is all for now. Don't get me wrong though. I don't hate the movie. I still enjoyed it for what it is. I'd give it a 7/10.

What about you?
 
this thread is actually unneeded because many pretty much show what they dislike about this movie in other present threads lol
 
1. Destruction porn. The final fight was just popcorn fare. Buildings collapsing and ground breaking but no perception of human casualty. Just there for the sake of creating the image of destruction but... wholly ineffective. Felt jarring and disconnected.

2. There were no stakes - we never believed that Apocalypse would win. Everything felt inconsequential, contrived and pointless.

3. Horrible use of Apocalypse. A potentially great villain and wonderful actor bogged down by a poor script and execution. His powers were poorly explained and inconsistent - he'd do something incredible one time then completely forget about it the next. He didn't feel threatening at all.

4. Weak narrative. There was little character development. Instead of focusing on several characters and building them up, we instead get too many new characters that each only get limited screen time. By the end of the film I didn't feel like I understood any of the characters any more than I did when I first met them.

5. The plot was convoluted. Why did he need the 4 horsemen? Why did he send the nukes up? The movie felt like a one-note infomercial used to introduce all these new characters.

6. Excessive use of visual effects. At many times used poorly, in addition to inappropriately.

7. Acting was bad. Sophie Turner is wooden and lacks emotion. The scene on her bed was horribly delivered. Some of the lines were horribly cliche and cringe-worthy.

8. No emotive beats. Where were the emotional parts of the movie? Magneto's family was killed way too early - before I was able to connect and felt the weight of their loss. Havok's death was sudden, with no build up. It held no gravity and felt done just for the sake of having someone die. Quicksilver's father storyline felt forced into the plot just to bring his character in. There was nothing emotional to anchor the viewer.
 
this thread is actually unneeded because many pretty much show what they dislike about this movie in other present threads lol

All other forums like BVS and CW have this kind of topic, so I don't see why it's unnecessary. Personally, I don't like to visit threads like this, but I think posters have the freedom to give their opinions, even if they're negative.
 
2. There were no stakes - we never believed that Apocalypse would win. Everything felt inconsequential, contrived and pointless.

Not to spoiler comic book movies for you but how often do you watch comic book movies where you think the villain could win? i mean i never watched avengers AOA thinking Ultron was gonna win, most the time is just the drama of the build up that matters
 
No reasoning/characterization for the Horsemen to join, none of them were particularly "strong" except for Magneto. After being imbued, the Horsemen didn't do much. Would have much preferred the classic line up of Horsemen if they were going to have henchmen type presence.

Because of Quicksilver's sequence in DoFP, they brought him back because it's what people liked in DoFP. They're milking that tit for all its worth lol but it was basically the same idea, nothing that wowed me. The sequence took attention away from [BLACKOUT]Alex's death[/BLACKOUT] so it was odd and I don't know why they used 'Sweet Dreams' because it's an 80s song? Lame.

Finale was messy and the [BLACKOUT]build up to Phoenix was hampered by Xavier telling Jean to "let go" like 5 times over and over[/BLACKOUT]. There was too much destruction of buildings and special effects debris, dust, sand whatever.

Choppy editing for the first two acts.
 
Oh God where to begin with!

1. Too much Magneto, to me this just ruined the whole freaking movie! And once Magneto became a horseman, Storm, Psylocke and Angel all became moving statues! I also didn't like the whole family thing, I didn't feel sorry for him, he's a terrorist anyway and the way they executed the death of her wife and daughter was very poor. Like if they were gonna kill those two to feel sorry for Magneto and to get Magneto really angry to start a war on humanity/Earth, they should have let the killer kill those two in his own will not because some birds distracted the soldier to accidentally slip his finger from holding the arrow. Then the arrow killing both of Magneto's wife and daughter in a single strike? Someone said, it was "2 in 1" Geez. It was terrible!
2. Storm's hero is Mystique. God, and the way this was first introduced was so bad. Like when Apocalypse got inside Storm's crib... Storm's was like "look at my Mystique poster, she's my hero, you know her???" and Apocalypse just like whatever and didn't say anything. And thats pretty much the only thing we knew about her and if this was the reason she betrayed Apocalypse, because Mystique was against Apocalypse, that is just really poor.
3. I didn't like Professor X in this movie. I thought he was more interested in "Moira" than actually finding out why Moira was in Egypt in the first place that caused some earthquake around the globe. And this romance/crush thing, that they were kinda making it humorous just didn't work for me. And God, no one in this film was aware that Moira was pretty much the catalyst for Apocalypse being woken-up after like 500 years. I also didn't like that Xavier was forcing Jean to really unleash the Phoenix force because Apocalypse was killing him? Jean Grey unleasging the Phoenix force should have been unleashed in her own will without Professor X dictating to unleash it. He was like "help me Jean, help me...". It kinda annoyed me.
4. Everybody cries after the flashback montage, uh okay. That happened with Magneto and Moira.
5. Beast in human form. Nevermind, that Beast looked less superior from the other Beast. But I felt like Beast's scenes would have been a bit better if we just saw him walk around the mansion in his mutat form. But no, he had to "control it" and yet he lives in a mansion filled with mutants and he even teaches them.
6. Mystique's role is compromised no thanks to Jennifer Lawrence. Everybody knows now that Jennifer doesn't like the body paint and thats it hard for her concentrate on "acting" when she keeps smelling the paint under her nose. So we got a Mystique who hides her true identity even if everybody around her already knows she's Mystique the hero. And she ruined the last scene in Danger Room, telling the X-Men what to do, when Professor X should have been the one giving those to the X-Men and Professor X was just there looking outside of the Danger Room. It ruined a scene that could have been really cool.
7. I didn't know anything about Psylocke other than she was like Caliban's bodyguard which was weird.
8. It seemed like Psylocke and Angel only joined Apocalypse because they boosted their power or for Angel, gave him some metal wings. They didn't really talk or even ask Apocalypse about his plans, like there were really silent henchmen and thats just not acceptable for someone like Psylocke and Angel who are A-listers in the X-Men comics. They got some cool shots, I liked Olivia Munn/Ben Hardy but they were just like decoration.
9. They made Nightcrawler a clown. The part where he woke up after the climax wasn't funny at all. It was forced comedy.
10. Quicksilver could have been serious during the rescue scene and I didn't like this "Magneto is father" story-arc especially he didn't even tell him and I fear that they would just continue that into the next movie! I don't want see that stuff again
11. Obviously, poor visual effects, sets looking like sets, I didn't like the 80s filter that they used for the scenes, a lot of shots looked dim and the lighting of a lot of indoor scenes were poor for example, Cyclops' school scenes, Caliban's business office, Quicksilver's basement room, the place where Henrik worked and the Alkali Lake base especially those green lights. Awful lighting. I prefer the lighting for the X-Mansion scenes way more.
12. No one cared about Havok's death except for Cyclops. Like Mystique mentioned Havok's name later in the film but his death didn't carry any weight at all.
13. Jubilee was useless.
14. Blob was there for 3 seconds.
15. I hate the middle part of the film. Apocalypse launching missiles to the space through Cerebro, then it led them going to Alkali Lake and Wolverine's role in this was just not good. They could have used that time to plan how to save Xavier and find Apocalypse. And let some of the horsemen talk. Instead we got Stryker and Wolverine again.
and many more!
 
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Oh God where to begin with!

2.Apocalypse got inside Storm's crib... Storm's was like "look at my Mystique poster, she's my hero, you know her???" and Apocalypse just like whatever and didn't say anything.

Hahahaha that's the funniest..
 
My main issue is the plot it doesn't live up to its predecessors. Even in the cartoons his horsemen went around the world causing destruction Apocalypse made is presence known and felt. This whole movie felt like a redemption arc for Magneto honestly now he's the new mystique the mutant savior like really?

Mystique was a joke ion know what happened to her but she was totally useless they could've had her vs Psylocke but they didn't. Sadly Storm was just their no memorable moment from her compared to the other films.

Apocalypse could have at least had a emotional connection to the other horsemen, why are Storm Angel Psylocke living the way they are what does he promise them cult leaders are able to see your pain and strife and use that to persuade you but none of them had a real backstory which could've been summed up in several lines.

Yea I'm sorry I love the X-Men but this movie seem liked it was rush into production too soon like they could've taken a longer time to come up with a better story. Also the Alkali Lake scenes can be taken out cause they didn't drive the story forward at all.
 
All other forums like BVS and CW have this kind of topic, so I don't see why it's unnecessary. Personally, I don't like to visit threads like this, but I think posters have the freedom to give their opinions, even if they're negative.

Because too much of flaws description in every topic in this board, that's why i said that:woot:

What i didn't like:
-Mystique, she just the worst part of the movie, especially her worst scene is the speech in the danger room. There's no encouraging or feeling proud about her speech. Kinberg completely turned her into Katniss here.
-Quicksilver scene, just shows the ambigousity of his powers, it try to make the funny scene from DOFP longer but it just came out stupid.
-Psylocke and Angel had no character
-All 3 horsemen except Magneto were just silent henchmen.
-recycled ideas from X2 and X3 pretty much present here
-this franchise are jut stagnate and seems afraid to move forward
 
I thought the Auschwitz scene could have been removed. I'd rather have had some more characters scenes for Psylocke, Storm, Jubilee and Angel.
 
I didn't like that the movie was so short :D. More scenes in the ancient time would be nice to see and more young mutants.
 
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Oh God where to begin with!

1. Too much Magneto, to me this just ruined the whole freaking movie! And once Magneto became a horseman, Storm, Psylocke and Angel all became moving statues! I also didn't like the whole family thing, I didn't feel sorry for him, he's a terrorist anyway and the way they executed the death of her wife and daughter was very poor. Like if they were gonna kill those two to feel sorry for Magneto and to get Magneto really angry to start a war on humanity/Earth, they should have let the killer kill those two in his own will not because some birds distracted the soldier to accidentally slip his finger from holding the arrow. Then the arrow killing both of Magneto's wife and daughter in a single strike? Someone said, it was "2 in 1" Geez. It was terrible!
2. Storm's hero is Mystique. God, and the way this was first introduced was so bad. Like when Apocalypse got inside Storm's crib... Storm's was like "look at my Mystique poster, she's my hero, you know her???" and Apocalypse just like whatever and didn't say anything. And thats pretty much the only thing we knew about her and if this was the reason she betrayed Apocalypse, because Mystique was against Apocalypse, that is just really poor.
3. I didn't like Professor X in this movie. I thought he was more interested in "Moira" than actually finding out why Moira was in Egypt in the first place that caused some earthquake around the globe. And this romance/crush thing, that they were kinda making it humorous just didn't work for me. And God, no one in this film was aware that Moira was pretty much the catalyst for Apocalypse being woken-up after like 500 years. I also didn't like that Xavier was forcing Jean to really unleash the Phoenix force because Apocalypse was killing him? Jean Grey unleasging the Phoenix force should have been unleashed in her own will without Professor X dictating to unleash it. He was like "help me Jean, help me...". It kinda annoyed me.
4. Everybody cries after the flashback montage, uh okay. That happened with Magneto and Moira.
5. Beast in human form. Nevermind, that Beast looked less superior from the other Beast. But I felt like Beast's scenes would have been a bit better if we just saw him walk around the mansion in his mutat form. But no, he had to "control it" and yet he lives in a mansion filled with mutants and he even teaches them.
6. Mystique's role is compromised no thanks to Jennifer Lawrence. Everybody knows now that Jennifer doesn't like the body paint and thats it hard for her concentrate on "acting" when she keeps smelling the paint under her nose. So we got a Mystique who hides her true identity even if everybody around her already knows she's Mystique the hero. And she ruined the last scene in Danger Room, telling the X-Men what to do, when Professor X should have been the one giving those to the X-Men and Professor X was just there looking outside of the Danger Room. It ruined a scene that could have been really cool.
7. I didn't know anything about Psylocke other than she was like Caliban's bodyguard which was weird.
8. It seemed like Psylocke and Angel only joined Apocalypse because they boosted their power or for Angel, gave him some metal wings. They didn't really talk or even ask Apocalypse about his plans, like there were really silent henchmen and thats just not acceptable for someone like Psylocke and Angel who are A-listers in the X-Men comics. They got some cool shots, I liked Olivia Munn/Ben Hardy but they were just like decoration.
9. They made Nightcrawler a clown. The part where he woke up after the climax wasn't funny at all. It was forced comedy.
10. Quicksilver could have been serious during the rescue scene and I didn't like this "Magneto is father" story-arc especially he didn't even tell him and I fear that they would just continue that into the next movie! I don't want see that stuff again
11. Obviously, poor visual effects, sets looking like sets, I didn't like the 80s filter that they used for the scenes, a lot of shots looked dim and the lighting of a lot of indoor scenes were poor for example, Cyclops' school scenes, Caliban's business office, Quicksilver's basement room, the place where Henrik worked and the Alkali Lake base especially those green lights. Awful lighting. I prefer the lighting for the X-Mansion scenes way more.
12. No one cared about Havok's death except for Cyclops. Like Mystique mentioned Havok's name later in the film but his death didn't carry any weight at all.
13. Jubilee was useless.
14. Blob was there for 3 seconds.
15. I hate the middle part of the film. Apocalypse launching missiles to the space through Cerebro, then it led them going to Alkali Lake and Wolverine's role in this was just not good. They could have used that time to plan how to save Xavier and find Apocalypse. And let some of the horsemen talk. Instead we got Stryker and Wolverine again.
and many more!

Stop complaining :woot:.
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- The horseman recruitment. I never really bought these various people would be brought to Apocalypse's side. Storm in particular made very little sense, especially in light of the fact Mystique was her hero. It's no wonder half of them turned on him.

- The whole Alkali lake portion. I enjoyed the section itself but it was an entirely pointless diversion. It was a long detour that didn't move the story forward at all.

- The fact at the end of the movie everyone is just chilling with Storm and Magneto.... who just tried to wipe the world out of their own free will.... there was no fall out from that at all?

- Generic CG destruction porn, completely disconnected to the characters, made worse by some really bad CGI, particularly on the cars on the bridge and the containers in the shipyard. It looked like a video game.
 
-I felt the action scenes weren't long enough
-Storm and Psylocke screentime after being recruited was dropped dramatically, I wanted more of them and less of Magneto. I mean Storm was literally sitting there during the final battle doing nothing then all of a sudden she just started electrocuting Apocalypse if came out of nowhere.
-Jubilee being introduced only for her parts to be severely cut, no shot of her powers.
-Havoks death seemed so unnecessary and mostly his fault.
 
Hoult and Lawrence got to go seeing them in human form discussing what mutants mean to each other, then for them to hide there "true" form in the mansion IT BLOWS so striker catches them and in a containment room with MUTANTS BUT she turns back into Raven when she wakes up :whatever:

I love Magneto so the attention given to him was not an issue with me but the way Angel was handled no mention of his wealthy family and I don't care that there is too many blue people he needs to be blue after apocalypse gives him his enhanced wings

and the whole weapon X on the lose didn't deliver like I hoped it would too much cutting away

I hated that Moira didn't remember none of them I totally forgot Charles wiped her mind clean in FC

and really only 1 fight sequence and that happens in the end and the "team" didn't feel like a team
 
I love the movie, really do, I cannot in good grace condone the fx, they were pretty much terrible, from the opening to the end, everything looked wrong, with the exception of Nightcrawler's makeup and bamfing.
 
Hoult and Lawrence got to go seeing them in human form discussing what mutants mean to each other, then for them to hide there "true" form in the mansion IT BLOWS so striker catches them and in a containment room with MUTANTS BUT she turns back into Raven when she wakes up :whatever:

I love Magneto so the attention given to him was not an issue with me but the way Angel was handled no mention of his wealthy family and I don't care that there is too many blue people he needs to be blue after apocalypse gives him his enhanced wings

and the whole weapon X on the lose didn't deliver like I hoped it would too much cutting away

I hated that Moira didn't remember none of them I totally forgot Charles wiped her mind clean in FC

and really only 1 fight sequence and that happens in the end and the "team" didn't feel like a team

Its all in context, you wanted angel to mention being wealthy and archangle to be turned blue because thats the comics but with the other stuff you ain't seeing the story context you are just seeing no comic accuracy, what an outrage!

for example you say they didn't feel like a team at the end... i think that was kinda the point, they were split up to form together as a team to work together to take down apocalypse, not everything has to be of comic structure just because the comics say so, these are the movies and so have to shake things up abit
 
- The horseman recruitment. I never really bought these various people would be brought to Apocalypse's side. Storm in particular made very little sense, especially in light of the fact Mystique was her hero. It's no wonder half of them turned on him.

- The fact at the end of the movie everyone is just chilling with Storm and Magneto.... who just tried to wipe the world out of their own free will.... there was no fall out from that at all?

This. It seemed too easy to convince someone to kill all of the people, and easy too to firgive the attempt.
 
Its all in context, you wanted angel to mention being wealthy and archangle to be turned blue because thats the comics but with the other stuff you ain't seeing the story context you are just seeing no comic accuracy, what an outrage!

for example you say they didn't feel like a team at the end... i think that was kinda the point, they were split up to form together as a team to work together to take down apocalypse, not everything has to be of comic structure just because the comics say so, these are the movies and so have to shake things up abit

I know it's outrages to expect a comic movie to actually you know look like that specific comic what was I thinking :whatever:
 
The method to defeating Apocalypse reminded me of how Dr.Doom was defeated in Fant4stic. Everyone attacks him at the same time.
 
The method to defeating Apocalypse reminded me of how Dr.Doom was defeated in Fant4stic. Everyone attacks him at the same time.

Reminded me more of age of ultron when iron man, thor, vision all blast ultron
 

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