Things You Want To See With This Reboot That Never Has Been Done Before?

- I want President Lex. He doesn't necessarily need to be President now, but I want his public face to be that of a legitimate businessman and for him to be well liked by the public. He should be suave, handsome and bald.

- I want Lois Lane to be the Lois Lane of the comics. Not a damsel in distress, not meek. She should be tough and shrewd and have her own agency.

- I want Metropolis to be the City of Tomorrow and to feature high concept production design, like The Batman. It needs to be a character.

- I want new and multiple villains - Braniac, Mxyzptlyk, Parasite, The Elite, Livewire, Lobo and Silver Banshee. No more Lex and/or a big guy Superman punches his way through. Delve into the rogues gallery and give us a Superman who has to use his BRAIN and not just his brawn.

- Give us a full cast of supporting characters - Jimmy, Cat Grant, Perry White, Maggie Sawyer, Emil Hamilton, Steve Lombard, etc. Make Metropolis a fully realised place like Gotham is in the Reevesverse.
 
Fine by me! :funny:

I think it adds up. First off, it's a famous comic published within the last 20 years. Second, Manchester Black is someone that's up Gunn's alley but could also help him characterize Superman right. I'm skeptical he's capable of doing a regular straight forward Superman story, and knowing Gunn, and how his stories seem to be about bad people being redeemed, I think the more meta message of why we need Superman fits him.

It's either gonna be that, Lobo or Mxyzptlk.
 
The villains I'm interested in seeing some time, not all as Big Bads, but somewhere in there:

Lex
Brainiac
Mongul
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Vyndktvx
Manchester Black &The Elite
The Ultra-Humanite
The Eradicator
Some Apokoliptians (Darkseid, Granny Goodness, the Furies, Kalibak, I'm not picky)
Morgan Edge/Intergang/Bruno Mannheim
Atomic Skull
Silver Banshee
Maxima
Conduit
Ruin
Wraith
Subjekt 17
The Phantom King (Xa-Du)
Hfuhruhurr The Word-Bringer
Redemption
Insect Queen
Jax-Ur
Faora

Villains I'm really NOT interested in seeing:

Zod
Metallo
Parasite
Lobo
Toyman
The Prankster
Livewire
Kryptonite Man
Bizarro
Doomsday
 
Morrison's Action Comics is the perfect jumping off point for an early-Supes-but-not-the-origin story, imo. The first arc with the government & Lex trying to capture and study him while he thwarts their attempts and gets the important "crusader for the people" s*** done in spite of them, with Lex secretly conspiring with (what he doesn't realize is) Brainiac in the background is basically the exact energy I think a new Supes saga needs. It's a bold, modern-feeling throwback to the Golden Age, and Clark is so big on personality and gusto in it, people unfamiliar with the character outside of movies would be shocked to find Superman could be this fun, imo.
 
I love Parasite but he fits that role that Clayface also has for me personally in that they're super cool visually but don't have Any real reason to build a full film around them, I also want to avoid the "mastermind pulling the brutes strings" stereotypes, I want a villain who's working for themselves exclusively, maybe Lex could take advantage of it but he's not directly behind it.

Random but funny thing is we've had so many Superman films and literally theres only two villains that could be wiped off the list.

I may be in the minority on this but I also wouldn't be against Bloodsport as the villain, obviously a "new canon" version but Gunn spoke of a possibility of him returning, Idris is a decently familiar face and He could play him much more villainous this time. I don't think he's in my top 5 but it's got potential
 
So I'm guessing this superman will be a year one type of film. So be it.

I want Brainiac. He collects the last surviving members of civilizations, he would pretty much have an intergalactic zoo in his ship.

Brainiac discovers Krypton has been destroyed, and the last surviving Kryptonian escaped and is now living on earth.
He must have him..
 
A Superman film should be the antithesis of The Batman, so if we get brooding Batman in his cave listening to Nirvana then I want Clark and Lois having fun, laughing, eating pretzels and walking the streets of M.C having a damn good time.

Not just them talking about whatever case they are working on or a brief moment of them on a date and Clark has to Superman off.
 
I would much rather use Manchester Black for the Superman vs. Elite movie as well, because if they use Metallo I'd rather it be like STAS where he's a guy forced to be in a robot body and he HATES it because he can no longer feel or smell anything.
 
Morrison's Action Comics is the perfect jumping off point for an early-Supes-but-not-the-origin story, imo. The first arc with the government & Lex trying to capture and study him while he thwarts their attempts and gets the important "crusader for the people" s*** done in spite of them, with Lex secretly conspiring with (what he doesn't realize is) Brainiac in the background is basically the exact energy I think a new Supes saga needs. It's a bold, modern-feeling throwback to the Golden Age, and Clark is so big on personality and gusto in it, people unfamiliar with the character outside of movies would be shocked to find Superman could be this fun, imo.

I need to give that a read.
 
The villains I'm interested in seeing some time, not all as Big Bads, but somewhere in there:

Villains I'm really NOT interested in seeing:

Zod
Metallo
Parasite
Lobo
Toyman
The Prankster
Livewire
Kryptonite Man
Bizarro
Doomsday

I’m with you on Zod (no Kryptonians at all, please) but I’d love to see a better Doomsday somewhere down the road.

With the exception of The Prankster and Kryptonite Man (admittedly I don’t know who they are), the rest are classics! I hope we at least get to see some of them.
 
Have Lana Lang be his bff who knows the secret. Maybe they can be a 21st century friends who are roomies.

Metallo would be a good first villain, more of a henchmen though with Lex secretly pulling the strings.
 
Its a shame that Amy Adams is too old (and also miscast as Lois, imo), because young Amy Adams would be absolutely perfect for Lana Lang.
 
The villains I'm interested in seeing some time, not all as Big Bads, but somewhere in there:

Lex
Brainiac
Mongul
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Vyndktvx
Manchester Black &The Elite
The Ultra-Humanite
The Eradicator
Some Apokoliptians (Darkseid, Granny Goodness, the Furies, Kalibak, I'm not picky)
Morgan Edge/Intergang/Bruno Mannheim
Atomic Skull
Silver Banshee
Maxima
Conduit
Ruin
Wraith
Subjekt 17
The Phantom King (Xa-Du)
Hfuhruhurr The Word-Bringer
Redemption
Insect Queen
Jax-Ur
Faora

Villains I'm really NOT interested in seeing:

Zod
Metallo
Parasite
Lobo
Toyman
The Prankster
Livewire
Kryptonite Man
Bizarro
Doomsday
No love for Metallo and Parasite? BOOO!!

I am actually kind of curious to see where Gunn lands when it comes to the rogues gallery. Between GOTG and his Suicide Squad, we know he likes a deep cut, but there are also some higher level Superman villains that deserve their moment in the spotlight too.
 
I’d like some narration throughout.

“You wanna know the truth about Superman?”

Opening the film with some lighthearted recap, his long overdue move from Smallville to the big city to finally give his dream a shot, showing us Supes’ day to day, all the ups and downs, then revealing that the narration is Clark writing a piece about himself, a constant temptation he has, to take advantage of his knowledge of Superman to further his struggling career. He then highlights it all, deletes it, and continues his soul-sucking assignment on some celebrity gossip.

And then maybe a similar piece at the end.
 
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Morrison's Action Comics is the perfect jumping off point for an early-Supes-but-not-the-origin story, imo. The first arc with the government & Lex trying to capture and study him while he thwarts their attempts and gets the important "crusader for the people" s*** done in spite of them, with Lex secretly conspiring with (what he doesn't realize is) Brainiac in the background is basically the exact energy I think a new Supes saga needs. It's a bold, modern-feeling throwback to the Golden Age, and Clark is so big on personality and gusto in it, people unfamiliar with the character outside of movies would be shocked to find Superman could be this fun, imo.

Great points and something we can all relate to would be key - the AI a great metaphor and also satirical look of what's to come.

So, DC want a hit, we all want a hit, we want an honest superman movie too, unapologetically superman.

The GA will make it a hit, not the die hard fans, however we can help... for me we need to go to the core basics of the character. Superman the movie worked, it still does. It's lightning in a bottle, but it's also charming.

This movie needs to be charming - you need to feel loved walking out, inspired. I know my choice in words are interesting for some, but superman really is the goodness in all of us. Yes, our world needs more love, but there's a great deal of compassion out there, we see it every day on the streets, we saw it during covid, we see it over the holidays. That fear the elites want, to manipulate us, that's luthor - America divided needs luthor, an America united, that's superman. The saying, truth, justice, the American way - that means something to the immigrants coming to america in their millions - only luthor would would see that as a reason to fracture society and say that it's broken, so he can fix it.

A reporter in the city, fighting corruption between donning a cape and saving people - that's th real person, the everyman, unassuming do goober - the majority of 'superman' is rescuing people, doing what we all wished we could have done, after a tragedy. A building on fire, runaway train, a nose diving plane or a cat in a tree, a kid under the ice on a lake. It's hope superman brings, he inspires.

Then, when something extraordinary happens, he's there, often unnoticed behind the scenes.

I want practical effects more so than CGI capes. I don't care if a cape looks dull not flowing in the wind, to me that's natural physics.

As a kid, the secret identity was great - the fun in superman 4 juggling the two. We need that again. We can suspend belief, but we want to be entertained and the close calls.

I want to see Clark the reporter and Lois as the main story, exposing or trying to expose luthor that everyone, even the audience love. We know he's tied to corruption but there's nothing solid.

The gov set Superman up, setting up 'accidents' to call him out and study him - Clark however, knows this - when a show down with lex does occur, lex reveals his true feelings of the parasite 'superman'. Clark and Lois can collect evidence to show that author was setting superman up, harming citizens for the sake of what?

For me, going back to the first series of Lois & clark, TNAOS is the crib sheet I want to use. This is why an actor with chops is preferred over an actor with looks.

For me, Clark, esp when Superman, needs to looks humble.. unassuming, like he feels our emotion as an alien interacting with us.

Jacob Elordi is my money.
 
Love President Lex, the idea that Supes and everyone know he’s corrupt, but still can’t really bring him to justice. Cause you know, that’s basically real life, and of course how it relates to the internet and control of media.

Also I think it’d be neat to see Brainiac bottle the city just to see the people cut off from the internet and social media for a while. Perhaps it’ll be for the better in some ways.
 
President Lex is absolutely where they should go with the character, but I hope they build up to it over the course of several films. That should be a massive DC universe shaking storyline.
 
The villains I'm interested in seeing some time, not all as Big Bads, but somewhere in there:

Lex
Brainiac
Mongul
Mr. Mxyzptlk
Vyndktvx
Manchester Black &The Elite
The Ultra-Humanite
The Eradicator
Some Apokoliptians (Darkseid, Granny Goodness, the Furies, Kalibak, I'm not picky)
Morgan Edge/Intergang/Bruno Mannheim
Atomic Skull
Silver Banshee
Maxima
Conduit
Ruin
Wraith
Subjekt 17
The Phantom King (Xa-Du)
Hfuhruhurr The Word-Bringer
Redemption
Insect Queen
Jax-Ur
Faora

Villains I'm really NOT interested in seeing:

Zod
Metallo
Parasite
Lobo
Toyman
The Prankster
Livewire
Kryptonite Man
Bizarro
Doomsday

I’m with you on General Zod, in fact I’d personally start this new Superman story AFTER his battle with General Zod and his cronies. This could then be seen as a quasi-sequel to both Superman 2 AND Man Of Steel (as the story is basically the same). Have a very brief background story and just go for it with something we haven’t seen on screen before. I’m not fussed about which bad guy to be honest as long as it’s something new. For this reason I’d also leave Lex Luthor out of the first movie.

* Zod and crew wouldn’t be dead though, just back in the phantom zone…ready to return in a sequel!
 
Takes on villains...

Mr. Mxyzptlk: Maybe treat him like Q from Star Trek: TNG? A powerful trickster who can annoy Superman and put him in funny and weird situations, but also spar with him intellectually and philosophically about Superman's morality and value system. Not just the little cartoon character who Superman makes go away by getting him to say his own name backwards.

Toyman: I liked the Superman The Animated Series take on him where he felt more like a horror movie villain. I love this design. Very creepy.

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If this is truly the way into a new iteration of the DCU altogether, I would like a more subtle laying of the groundwork for eventual Fourth World/Apokolips stuff.

Nothing big right off the bat. Just a few G. Gordon Godfrey telecasts trying to whip up anti-superhero sentiment.
 
I think really lean into the immigrant story aspect. No need to go over the top with the Christ symbolism this time.
 
Brainiac on the big screen,

For the love of god, make him the main villain of a future movie and break this curse that has befallen him for decades. :funny:
 
I also think, they don’t need to go so smaltzy with the romance this time. Like, we know they’re going to get together so you don’t have to have as much starry eyed smooch stuff. Seeing more of Lois as an investigative reporter would be way more fun
 
I also think, they don’t need to go so smaltzy with the romance this time. Like, we know they’re going to get together so you don’t have to have as much starry eyed smooch stuff. Seeing more of Lois as an investigative reporter would be way more fun
Maybe not over the top, but I feel at the core Superman is often a story about love and connection with people.
 

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