The Amazing Spider-Man This time should the Green Goblin physically transform or suit up in costume?

[Nathan]

I'd have him be a collector of medieval armors and such and have him make a makeshift costume out of it. Like putting on leather armor and throwing some purple rags over it.

 

[webhead9707]

I think he should transform, say they used the Lizard formula for enhanced strength and stuff and were modifying it with good results, Norman tries it as the first human test subject, and his skin turns green and he get's stronger, but no scales and is still pretty human. Eh?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Since they are following the Ultimate storyline, it is possible that Goblin will have that gargoyle look to him. However, they are also using the very early design of the Lizard from Amazing Spider-Man, so who knows? However, the reason for the Lizard's classic look was because they thought the snout would interfere with the emotions of the character, especially when he is speaking.

The reason why I want the Goblin in the costume is because I don't want to look back on these movies years from now and see only Spider-Man fighting only CGI villains. It is impossible to have the Lizard without CGI, so I understand. If they go for just a Goblin physically transformed, he will be another CGI villain. It is important to take a break from computer animated characters if they want to include ones like Venom in the future.

 

[Nathan]

The reason why I want the Goblin in the costume is because I don't want to look back on these movies years from now and see only Spider-Man fighting only CGI villains. It is impossible to have the Lizard without CGI, so I understand. If they go for just a Goblin physically transformed, he will be another CGI villain. It is important to take a break from computer animated characters if they want to include ones like Venom in the future.

Huh? The Transformation would be CGI, once he's the Goblin though, it would all be make-up and practical effects.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

The Lizard could easily of been make-up and practical effects; but they didn't do that. So I think if they went for the "Hulk" Goblin, it would be entirely CGI.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Huh? The Transformation would be CGI, once he's the Goblin though, it would all be make-up and practical effects.

... if they made it so he was physically transformed into a Goblin (like the Gargoyle Ultimate version) then it would be all CGI. If he was in costume then no, it would be practical effects.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The Lizard could easily of been make-up and practical effects; but they didn't do that. So I think if they went for the "Hulk" Goblin, it would be entirely CGI.

I don't see how they could create the Lizard with practical effects (other than him in the process of turning into the Lizard)

 

[NinjaCarm]

No Ultimate Green Goblin, if so, I will burn all my comics. I'm sorry, we have a green transforming villain in this film, no green transforming the second film, okay braniacs.

Original glider riding goblin in the 2nd film. Period.

 

[Web face]

How do you want the glider to look if (when) he reappears? I thought raimi nailed it.

 

[NinjaCarm]

^ I agree, I love that glider, bravo to Raimi for that, he got that right, not much else. I don't know but original goblin is the way they better go. Thunderbolts Green Goblin.

I hate this new franchise already I can see them doing the Ultimate Green Goblin like aholes.

 

[Web face]

Hmm well they have said before that they want to use CGI sparingly and Ultimate Goblin seems like he would be pretty CGI heavy so they could go classic and make it work. I know that you may have told this a bunch of times to different people, but could you explain to me what exactly you hate about this franchise? If you want to of course, if you don't I understand.

 

[Picard Sisko]

^ I agree, I love that glider, bravo to Raimi for that, he got that right, not much else. I don't know but original goblin is the way they better go. Thunderbolts Green Goblin.

I hate this new franchise already I can see them doing the Ultimate Green Goblin like aholes.

I don't think they are going to use Ultimate Green Goblin to be honest. They will probably base the character's story off of Ultimate Spider-Man, but use the design from the 616 Universe.

 

[storyteller]

Contrary to everyone else, I loved the "power ranger" goblin gear. Goblins costume is theatrical. At some point the only reasoning the movie needs to give is that it really is a costume. They have come up with some more practical ways in the comics to militarize the goblin but keep the flair. They should take a look at that. To me it's like Doom wearing clothes on top of his armor. At some point it's just a costume. The costume is a symbol the Goblin uses to terrorize his enemies.

I don't want transformation because he needs to be a foil to Peter/Spiderman. He's gotta be a mad man in a suit(or a sane man ala Spectacular Spiderman).

Movies shouldn't be afraid to get theatrical. They just need to maintain a tone.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Contrary to everyone else, I loved the "power ranger" goblin gear. Goblins costume is theatrical. At some point the only reasoning the movie needs to give is that it really is a costume. They have come up with some more practical ways in the comics to militarize the goblin but keep the flair. They should take a look at that. To me it's like Doom wearing clothes on top of his armor. At some point it's just a costume. The costume is a symbol the Goblin uses to terrorize his enemies.

I don't want transformation because he needs to be a foil to Peter/Spiderman. He's gotta be a mad man in a suit(or a sane man ala Spectacular Spiderman).

Movies shouldn't be afraid to get theatrical. They just need to maintain a tone.

Agree with everything you said.

 

[Nathan]

... if they made it so he was physically transformed into a Goblin (like the Gargoyle Ultimate version) then it would be all CGI. If he was in costume then no, it would be practical effects.

Yeah, but most don't want the Hulk rip-off. Some are ok with a mix, which means transformation like in USM, but the form of 616. So again, only the transformation would be CGI and after that it would be make-up and practical effects.

 

[Scarlettess]

Contrary to everyone else, I loved the "power ranger" goblin gear. Goblins costume is theatrical. At some point the only reasoning the movie needs to give is that it really is a costume. They have come up with some more practical ways in the comics to militarize the goblin but keep the flair. They should take a look at that. To me it's like Doom wearing clothes on top of his armor. At some point it's just a costume. The costume is a symbol the Goblin uses to terrorize his enemies.

I don't want transformation because he needs to be a foil to Peter/Spiderman. He's gotta be a mad man in a suit(or a sane man ala Spectacular Spiderman).

Movies shouldn't be afraid to get theatrical. They just need to maintain a tone.

agreed. Goblin's suit in Raimi's trilogy worked in the context of the film.(for the exception of the mask, seriously, why would a helmet look like that?)

I love Marvel Knights Goblin, but that might be too close to what Raimi did with the armor etc.