Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 10

[Dr. Evil]

Maybe it's just me, but outside of set photos, it's been very slow on the MCU front in terms of major news

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I hope that its the new trailer...

 

[HammerDown]

Maybe it's just me, but outside of set photos, it's been very slow on the MCU front in terms of major news

I gotta agree with this. There has been some tastes of news for TR but nothing out of the ordinary, an IMAX Poster, a Japanese announcement, an Australian poster, an IMAX announcement, ET set visit with some interesting footage...

The last major bit of news was the "Contender TV Spot", the character posters and most of the media set visits. All of this September 7th... 20 days ago. I'm kinda in need of some more footage.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

We are nearly there guys... less than a month to go for me!

 

[Surfer]

This is a missconception actually. While the two have come to draws in brawls, Thor has more victories against the Hulk than vice versa when it isn't a strength contest.




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It really depends on who you ask. I have seen people keeping scores of the battles where they say Hulk came out with more wins and I have seen the same reporting for Thor where he has more wins. The one below claims they have the same number of wins.

http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2011/09/hulk-vs-thor.html

So, again it really depends on the person judging it, as some people might view it to only be a win if it results in a Knock out. Where others might view it a win if it seems the fight is more one sided in their opinion.

Personally, I think Stan has the best answer.

https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y

Surfer

 

[Mjölnir]

It really depends on who you ask. I have seen people keeping scores of the battles where they say Hulk came out with more wins and I have seen the same reporting for Thor where he has more wins. The one below claims they have the same number of wins.

http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2011/09/hulk-vs-thor.html

So, again it really depends on the person judging it, as some people might view it to only be a win if it results in a Knock out. Where others might view it a win if it seems the fight is more one sided in their opinion.

Personally, I think Stan has the best answer.

https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y

Surfer

As it happens Stan has answered the question of Thor vs Hulk more recently than that though. His answer? Thor would win. t:

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Miek wasn't purple in the comics, at least I'm fairly sure he wasn't. Also he looks quite reptile looking, no?

 

[HammerDown]

Miek wasn't purple in the comics, at least I'm fairly sure he wasn't. Also he looks quite reptile looking, no?

There's different looks and colors to him in the comics from what i could gather and purple is one of those colors. They tweaked the looks of many of the characters too... And we see more bright colors too. And also there are 2 different looks to Miek, one when he is much thinner and smaller and the King Miek version of him.

Spoiler

The reason why he looks reptile is because it's a side image of his face. The Pops that were already revealed of him show how his face really looks while that image from the book shows a much better look at his body which looks great by the way.

 

[HammerDown]

Heimdall's sword in TR.

 

[Gamma Ra]

It really depends on who you ask. I have seen people keeping scores of the battles where they say Hulk came out with more wins and I have seen the same reporting for Thor where he has more wins. The one below claims they have the same number of wins.

http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2011/09/hulk-vs-thor.html

So, again it really depends on the person judging it, as some people might view it to only be a win if it results in a Knock out. Where others might view it a win if it seems the fight is more one sided in their opinion.

Personally, I think Stan has the best answer.

https://youtu.be/L4_zFYnnn2Y

Surfer

While I'll always respect Stan Lee for co-creating many of the Marvel Comics characters, Stan has contradicted his self on many occasions. The Hulk has fought and beat many 'gods' even in Stan's own stories. This is what he says about Hulk in a Hulk vs Superman senario -

"In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."

Thor may be a "god" but he too would tire. Also, Hulk/Bruce Banner have shown to be possibly immortal like any good "Monster" a la vampires, werewolves, Jason, etc... only powered by gamma and cosmic energies. I believe it was Stan himself that first killed Bruce Banner and reanimated him with gramma rays. He can be subdued and incapacitated, even seemingly destroyed, but he has the ability to perfectly reconstitute his entire being even when atomized. Hulk in a Planet Hulk What If story, became truly one with his Bruce Banner persona and had a youthful appearance for thousands of years. He was alive long enough to see a species of creatures evolve to space farring levels from an animal state.

 

[BigThor]

The increasing strength aspect of Hulk doesn't guarantee a victory as there is more to fighting than strength. Also he can be KO'd before his strength ever gets a chance to increase.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Miek wasn't purple in the comics, at least I'm fairly sure he wasn't. Also he looks quite reptile looking, no?

Nor was Korg blue in the comics. Miek is hard to see clearly.

 

[HammerDown]

India.

 

[Gamma Ra]

The increasing strength aspect of Hulk doesn't guarantee a victory as there is more to fighting than strength. Also he can be KO'd before his strength ever gets a chance to increase.

But not only does his strength increase, his resistance to injury does as well. While his opponent wanes, Hulk grows increasingly stronger on many levels.

And yes, it's best to try to knock out Hulk quick and don't get him really angry.

 

[Surfer]

As it happens Stan has answered the question of Thor vs Hulk more recently than that though. His answer? Thor would win. t:

Yeah, I saw that, and I was just trying to be diplomatic by posting the video I did. However, I still don't think his more recent video discounts what Stan said in the earlier video I posted. I mean it would if Stan was the only one responsible for all the Thor vs. Hulk battles, but he isn't. So, he might feel that Thor wins, but perhaps another writer sees it differently. Also, if the battle is close then viewer perception becomes relevant.

I think in the end it all becomes speculation, which is good because it's fun and it captures the use of peoples imaginations. So, really in the end the only true winner is us.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

Miek wasn't purple in the comics, at least I'm fairly sure he wasn't. Also he looks quite reptile looking, no?

Korg is orange in the comics, that's clearly a more noticeable change then Miek's color.

 

[Surfer]

Korg is orange in the comics, that's clearly a more noticeable change then Miek's color.

Well there was the Kronan that Thor fought in Thor the Dark World and he was orange. So, I am wondering if Korg being a different color is representative of them being different ethnicities within the Kronan species.

Surfer

 

[The Endless]

Just throw him into space lol.

 

[HammerDown]

Well there was the Kronan that Thor fought in Thor the Dark World and he was orange. So, I am wondering if Korg being a different color is representative of them being different ethnicities within the Kronan species.

Surfer

In T:TDW that kronan was actually grey.

 

[Surfer]

Just throw him into space lol.

Well Hulk can survive space and while it might be a temporary solution to stopping his rampage, I don't know if I would consider it winning a fight, but some might. That's what I mean there is so many variables to consider. Or what if after battling Thor flies off or Hulk goes jumping off into the horizon, did they run from the fight or were they just bored with the fight and leaving. I mean there are lots of ways to interpret things.

Surfer

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

There's different looks and colors to him in the comics from what i could gather and purple is one of those colors. They tweaked the looks of many of the characters too... And we see more bright colors too. And also there are 2 different looks to Miek, one when he is much thinner and smaller and the King Miek version of him.

Spoiler

The reason why he looks reptile is because it's a side image of his face. The Pops that were already revealed of him show how his face really looks while that image from the book shows a much better look at his body which looks great by the way.

Thanks HD! You are an absolute legend.

Any idea where his eyes are?

 

[Surfer]

In T:TDW that kronan was actually grey.

Thanks for correcting me. I guess I just superimposed my memory of them from the comics into the movie. Lol

Surfer

 

[Surfer]

I wonder how Korg is going to feel if he finds out Thor killed one of his kind.

Surfer

 

[Mjölnir]

Well Hulk can survive space and while it might be a temporary solution to stopping his rampage, I don't know if I would consider it winning a fight, but some might. That's what I mean there is so many variables to consider. Or what if after battling Thor flies off or Hulk goes jumping off into the horizon, did they run from the fight or were they just bored with the fight and leaving. I mean there are lots of ways to interpret things.

Surfer

One could just take it one step further and throw Hulk into the Sun. Even though he can survive he has no means of escaping.

Of course that's not how superhero fights tend to go. Just like how Thor only brawls with Hulk even though that's just using half of his total power (even less if you consider the God Blast). Cool goes before logic.

 

[Surfer]

In T:TDW that kronan was actually grey.

I wonder if Marvel choose to make the Kronan's grey to avoid them looking too similar to the Thing from Fantastic Four. You know trying avoid any complications with a law suit, even though it would not have any merit.

Surfer