Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 5

[HammerDown]

ErikDavis
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[Vartha]

Eff yeah! it better be more humorous than TDW.
Eff yeah! it better be the funniest and most energetic MCU flick to date on top of having one of the most humanistic characters/story.

I will accept no substitute with Taika Waititi at the helm.
No excuse whatsoever.

As long as the humor doesn't seem forced I love the humor. There were parts in TDW that could have been left out lol Foster's dinner for instance was a tad boring, but it was part of the story.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Levity can be an effective way of heightening drama. Its all about how its used. I highly doubt that this will be the slapstick laugh-riot some seem to fear it will be.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

its almost end of February and no trailer...Suicide Squad had the official trailer with 1 year in advance, i know even civil war first trailer with 10 months

April.

 

[legendkillin]

its almost end of February and no trailer...Suicide Squad had the official trailer with 1 year in advance, i know even civil war first trailer with 10 months

Can't really compare to DC, they were promoting two movies hard at the same time. That is something Marvel has never done and never will. Marvel has 3 movies coming out, to promote anything from the 3rd one now is asking too much.

I expect the teaser when GOTG2 comes out. Then the next one should be with Spider-Man.

 

[Darepool]

Again, love Waititi, love his style of humour, and so even if it is a full on comedy (was exaggerating when I said that originally) then I'm sure to enjoy it. Anything is better than 'mewmew'.

The film's fate won't rest on it's humor.

 

[BoredGuy]

ErikDavis
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well that's definitely not gunna reassure anyone

idk, I'm torn
I'm definitely not a humor-hater
Thor 1 had some great funny moments, and obviously the Avengers films and Guardians were all elevated by the jokes
And I love Wilderpeople and What we do in Shadows, as well as the "Team Thor" shorts

but hearing Hiddleston say that Ragnarok will be "the funniest presentation of Thor we've ever seen" is definitely not what I'd picture for an "end of all creation" type story.
dunno... I guess it'd just be nice to hear some things like "these are some of the highest stakes the MCU has ever seen" and "Thor has to fight back from the edge of destruction"... just something to let us know it is, in fact, still Ragnarok

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah that's no mere uppercut. Can't you people recognize a freaking shoryuken when you see it? Or a Thor-yuken, if you will.

And that will be why Hulk loses the inevitable match. Because he forgot that Thor can hammer uppercut the crap out of him.

 

[metaphysician]

Of course, the hero's powers are what the writers and directors say they are, but, at least in the old comics I used to read, it was clear that Thor was at least the equal of Hulk in hand to hand combat. In one book, Thor was recalling to two kids his encounter with Hulk. If he didn't have his hammer for a certain amount of time, he changed back into Dr. Blake. He got leave from Odin to put the hammer down and basically put an ass whoopin' on Hulk until he hesitated to see what effect his blows had on him.

Its variable, but outside of stories where its clear that Hulk is jobbing everyone ( *coughWorldWarHulkcough* ), yeah, Thor and Hulk are a match. Hulk is somewhat stronger, while Thor is a lot more skilled and wields suitably indestructible melee weapons. So, the personal battles are a pretty even split.

Things are less even when Thor actually uses/is allowed to use Mjolnir as more than just a hammer, mind. While there aren't many good cases against Hulk, there are *plenty* of cases of Thor using Mjolnir's power against other people as or more powerful than Hulk, and pretty much destroying them. He just "coincidentally" doesn't choose to use ranged attacks or exotic functions when fighting Hulk. Kind of like how Spider-man forgets about his relatively-speaking vast superpowers when he faces Wolverine most of the time.

 

[Finarfiniel]

its almost end of February and no trailer...Suicide Squad had the official trailer with 1 year in advance, i know even civil war first trailer with 10 months

Marvel don't have a habit of shooting their load too early like WB/DC. Advertising a movie a year before it's release is completely ridiculous in my opinion, as is releasing a trailer when the CG clearly hasn't even been finished yet. We're looking at late April for the teaser trailer, it'll probably drop online a week or slightly more before Guardians 2 is released.

but hearing Hiddleston say that Ragnarok will be "the funniest presentation of Thor we've ever seen" is definitely not what I'd picture for an "end of all creation" type story.

But why are two mutually exclusive? A film can have hilarious scenes and lots of moments of levity but still deal with large stakes and end of the world scenarios. Having comedy in a film does not mean the whole thing is going to be a farce, in fact I'd argue that having the contrast between the light hearted moments and the apocalyptic final battle give those big, epic, dark moments much more emotional weight.

dunno... I guess it'd just be nice to hear some things like "these are some of the highest stakes the MCU has ever seen" and "Thor has to fight back from the edge of destruction"... just something to let us know it is, in fact, still Ragnarok

Kevin Feige has already said that Ragnarok involves 'the end of everything' and has confirmed that it is the big lead in to Infinity War. He has also likened it to the Winter Soldier of Phase 3, meaning that it has a big knock on effect on the rest of the MCU and ties in to the next tentpole team up movie (IW) in the same way that Winter Soldier did to AoU. Even the official synopsis confirms that Thor has to race against time to stop Hela from completely destroying Asgard. What more do you want at this stage?

The actors likely talk more about the comedy side because the funny scenes are the ones they most enjoyed filming, it in no way means the whole movie is a comedy.

 

[Erzengel]

 

[Vartha]

I can see that on Tee shirts. lol

 

[HammerDown]

well that's definitely not gunna reassure anyone

idk, I'm torn
I'm definitely not a humor-hater
Thor 1 had some great funny moments, and obviously the Avengers films and Guardians were all elevated by the jokes
And I love Wilderpeople and What we do in Shadows, as well as the "Team Thor" shorts

but hearing Hiddleston say that Ragnarok will be "the funniest presentation of Thor we've ever seen" is definitely not what I'd picture for an "end of all creation" type story.
dunno... I guess it'd just be nice to hear some things like "these are some of the highest stakes the MCU has ever seen" and "Thor has to fight back from the edge of destruction"... just something to let us know it is, in fact, still Ragnarok

I was not expecting to "reassure" anyone with what i posted. It was simply of interest for the movie and by that alone got to these thread. One cannot simply please everyone. Sometimes it's worth giving a shot and trying to make a point across to certain individuals, other times not so much... Different tastes or point of views.

For myself i choose to look at these coments from Tom Hiddleston in this perspective...
There was a big chemistry/complicity and friendship between Taika Waititi and Chris Hemsworth which in turn "brough the best in each other". For myself that's great... Director and main character of the movie going along perfectly and having great chemistry with each other. If that's not a promising thing about the movie then i don't know what is.

About the humor remarks when he says this will be "the funniest depiction of the character of Thor that you ever seen". That doesn't bother me one bit. The funniest depiction of the character Thor we have ever seen was arguably in the first Thor movie. I can still remember a few great funny moments from Thor that we're in fact memorable and there was nothing wrong with that. In TDW the humor was all over the place and not so much about Thor himself but more about other people wich just made for a damn waste of screen time if you ask me.

Thor Ragnarok having the funniest depiction of the character of thor doesn't worry me at all. Funnier than the character in the first Thor? Sure. Why not.

 

[HammerDown]

I see people just freaking way too much about the humor.
Taika Waititi's answer to that says it all...

https://***********/TaikaWaititi/status/833200328589729792

@TaikaWaititi hey people are annoyed that Ragnarok is gonna have humour what are your thoughts on this issue?
TW - Pffffffrrrrrtttt (fart sound)... :P

 

[Panacea]

And that will be why Hulk loses the inevitable match. Because he forgot that Thor can hammer uppercut the crap out of him.

I don't think he has his hammer in that scene.

 

[HammerDown]

Like someone already said around here. This looks like one of the biggest "money shots" for one of the trailers. It's a pretty epic moment to finish a trailer off in style and "impact".

 

[Finarfiniel]

I see people just freaking way too much about the humor.
Taika Waititi's answer to that says it all...

https://***********/TaikaWaititi/status/833200328589729792

I love that animated Thor gif that someone posted in response to his tweet, I wish you could still save gifs from twitter.

Following Taika on twitter is one of the best decisions I ever made. t:

 

[Silvermoon]

its almost end of February and no trailer...Suicide Squad had the official trailer with 1 year in advance, i know even civil war first trailer with 10 months

Not sure where you're getting the 10 month thing for Civil War... unless you're including something shown at comic-con or the like? But Marvel Studios tends to average 6 months before the U.S. release date to officially release the first teaser trailer globally (so we're not talking anything that's exclusive to those attending comic cons, we're talking officially releasing the trailer online for all to see). For Civil War, they officially released the first trailer online about 5 1/2 months before U.S. release date (so it was actually a little bit on the later end).

As has been stated before, for Thor: Ragnarok, the 6 month average time frame would put it being released probably mid-late/april (just in time for it to be shown in front of GotG vol.2)

 

[kguillou]

All I ask is keep the humor to the quiet character momenta and Im completely fine with it. I loved the first Thor movie's humor because it fit Thor's fish out of water and was charming during hia scenes with Natalie Portman. But during the Asgard moments things were tense and grandiose like theyre supposed to be.TDW went too far when they placed slapstick gags during the dramatic and exciting moments like his fight with Maleketh. Ughhhhh

Keep the stakes high, the set pieces tense and epic and give us levity and humor during the quiet character scenes and I dont think anyone'll be upset.

 

[2kt09]

The fundamental problem with that is my expectation is something akin to Shaun of the Dead or This is The End.
Hunt for the Wilderpeople was "quieter" so to speak with some really gut-wrenching drama, but it was chock full of humor and often conveyed in subtle ways the MCU isn't necessarily known for. He really knows his references and can be overt sometimes, but I'm hoping those are far & few between as he gets to flex his comedic variety.

The funniest Thor I've seen so far has been directed by Taika Waititi and I'll be fine if he tones that down or not.

 

[kguillou]

I think the other issue too is that they're naming it "Ragnarok." I think from day one when Feige announced it at that Phase 3 event, the first thing that popped into our minds was "YES! They're going to do a darker Thor film about the end of everything. Finally, we're going to get our LoTR-esque Thor epic." And I think we were all intrigued by that and maybe wanted something darker and more visceral after TDW. I think the name naturally carries that connotation with it.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I'm honestly not worried. Anything but bore-fest of Thor1 and Thor2. If humor is used properly, it won't hurt drama. And Guardians is a good example.

 

[Kane52630]

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[HKpowerup]

I honestly don't have any issues with more humour as long as it's well-timed, natural and fits the story, and also doesn't go overboard.

And think about it, we'll be further exploring the cosmos and new worlds, so you'll need humour to keep people interested because there will be some ridiculous and absurd creatures/races.

If Waititi was brought onboard to help inject some humour into what was originally a very dark script, I think that makes sense.

This is still my most anticipated comic book movie film of 2017!

 

[HKpowerup]

This looks awesome, hopefully it makes it into the final product.

In some ways I wish they weren't fighting in an arena, with the power levels depicted in the MCU both Thor and Hulk are capable of enormous damage that I don't want to see them confined in an arena.

Anyway, still looking forward to it!