Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland

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you can still use the 3D cameras and have bad 3D. it depends.
 
I think the average fan still likes the "it's coming right at you" effect.
before Avatar it was the only option. they only knew the 3D as a jumping effect,

i still laugh when someone says that there was only 3D in the first 20 minutes and then it was gone.

hmmmm maybe the brain adjusted for something that is present through oyur whole life? :cwink:
 
Not really, during the theatrical re-release of Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D, while some shots were made to be in your face shots, they also spaced out Halloween Town and gave it a sense of depth and distance between the buildings.
 
Not really, during the theatrical re-release of Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D, while some shots were made to be in your face shots, they also spaced out Halloween Town and gave it a sense of depth and distance between the buildings.
the movie was not filmed in 3D . so i dont know where all the 3D jumping shots would come from.
 
I don't know if this movie sucks or not but some of the harsh reviews are hilarious!

He used an Orlando Bloom quote in the review.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/ent...ing-Johnny-Depp-and-Helena-Bonham-Carter.html

There's a difference between a failure and a fiasco. A failure is simply the non-presence of success. Any fool can accomplish failure
But a fiasco? A fiasco is a disaster of mythic proportions." -Elizabethtown
 
I find it funny that some reviewers are against the film because it's "over the top". Last time I checked, Wonderland was ALWAYS "over the top". Wasn't that the point of the book?
 
the movie was not filmed in 3D . so i dont know where all the 3D jumping shots would come from.

Well some movies are not shot with the monsters right there, nevertheless they're added afterwards. I think it's called post-production.
 
62% at RT:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009599-alice_in_wonderland/

But here's the interesting thing. The rating among Top Critics, you know, the people we actually pay attention to, it's at 80%. In other words, the "mixed reviews" are coming from bloggers who are just seeking attention.

Of the Top Critics, only Todd McCarthy from Variety gave it a poor review. A.O. Scott, Michael Phillips, David Edelstein and the dude from the Hollywood Reporter gave it their thumps up. And we know that Burton doesn't have the best track record with critics, so if this keeps up then perhaps the movie is good afterall.
 
Three stars.

Weak beginning, Mia Wasikowska (playing Alice) was a bit limp for most of it, and the story took ages to get going.

Johnny Depp saved the movie once he appeared on screen. I was a bit neutral about Helena Bonham Carter and Christopher Lee's voice on the Jabberwocky seemed like a good idea, but somehow didn't quite work.

The final act was an improvement, refreshing given some of the downhill efforts on screen lately.

Ultimately, Alice in Wonderland plays its strengths by the end against its weaknesses at the start and comes out somewhere in the ballpark of "watchably average" in my opinion.
 
how was the CGI? and can you describe a little more on Mia's performance?
 
how was the CGI?

I think it's safe to say that the quality isn't going to be worth obsessing over given how fantastical everything in this movie was. Some parts looked great (the bloodhound IMO) and some parts looked ridiculous (bandersnatch), but the whole environment of Underland was so bizarre that even the bad effects are mostly only going to blend in.

and can you describe a little more on Mia's performance?

Flat. The character was played for being lost and puzzled for much of the movie and this resulted in a certain level of 'flatness' that seldom got overthrown by anything interesting to watch.
 

Huh. I usually like Moriarty's comments and he may be right that AIW is a bad movie or one of Burton's lesser works.

But it is hard to say. Because two of my three favorite Burton films, Big Fish and Sweeney Todd, he claims matter-of-factly are bad because he didn't like the thematics of the first or didn't get the second. When he says things like that and then says he loves Mars Attacks! and that Burton should quit working with Depp...

Just no. I'm not going to take that. ;)

As for Cameron. Fair enough, I plan to see it in 2D. I'm sure Burton would be glad to hear when Burton was asked if he saw Avatar he said no and shrugged it off. Mutual respect, I suppose. I personally think Cameron hasn't had an "off-film," while Burton has had several, but Burton has also done far better movies, in my opinion.
 
62% at RT:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009599-alice_in_wonderland/

But here's the interesting thing. The rating among Top Critics, you know, the people we actually pay attention to, it's at 80%. In other words, the "mixed reviews" are coming from bloggers who are just seeking attention.

Of the Top Critics, only Todd McCarthy from Variety gave it a poor review. A.O. Scott, Michael Phillips, David Edelstein and the dude from the Hollywood Reporter gave it their thumps up. And we know that Burton doesn't have the best track record with critics, so if this keeps up then perhaps the movie is good afterall.
No way the bloggers should be able to contribute. Their opinion is often no more qualified than the average guy off the street & like you say they are so often contrarian on any big films just to attract hits to their sites.

I don't know if this movie sucks or not but some of the harsh reviews are hilarious!

He used an Orlando Bloom quote in the review.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/ent...ing-Johnny-Depp-and-Helena-Bonham-Carter.html

There's a difference between a failure and a fiasco. A failure is simply the non-presence of success. Any fool can accomplish failure
But a fiasco? A fiasco is a disaster of mythic proportions." -Elizabethtown
I read that review lol which itself is way over the top. It is funny to read though & that quote is great!
 
I think the average fan still likes the "it's coming right at you" effect.
Maybe, as long as it's not overused (in my case once or twice :woot:)

Flat. The character was played for being lost and puzzled for much of the movie and this resulted in a certain level of 'flatness' that seldom got overthrown by anything interesting to watch.
This is a bit worrying. Had a feeling she might come across like that & some reviewers also seem to think so.
 
Haha..yeah the Elfman part is great.

'Get my Johnny Depp & my wife on the phone'..Great phone!
 
62% at RT:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009599-alice_in_wonderland/

But here's the interesting thing. The rating among Top Critics, you know, the people we actually pay attention to, it's at 80%. In other words, the "mixed reviews" are coming from bloggers who are just seeking attention.

Of the Top Critics, only Todd McCarthy from Variety gave it a poor review. A.O. Scott, Michael Phillips, David Edelstein and the dude from the Hollywood Reporter gave it their thumps up. And we know that Burton doesn't have the best track record with critics, so if this keeps up then perhaps the movie is good afterall.


The discrepancies between overall rating and top critics are interesting. I watched The Prestige last night and I feel the top critics were way the hell off on that one (55% rating). It is a near-masterpiece IMHO, and I know I'm not the only person that feels this way about it judging by the ratings by other moviegoers. Bottom line is that it's best for everyone to keep an open mind and make up their own mind. I am looking forward to Alice In Wonderland, but I am not happy about the fact that my theater is only offering it in 3D. :csad:

By the way: Alice In Wonderland is at 58% overall and 57% Top Critics at the moment, but there are only 7 top critic reviews and 24 reviews overall so far. Movies like this are an acquired taste in many ways. One of my favorites is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It has a dreadful rating at Rotten Tomatoes but it's a hell of a trip. That's kind of what I expect from Alice In Wonderland.
 
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The discrepancies between overall rating and top critics are interesting. I watched The Prestige last night and I feel the top critics were way the hell off on that one (55% rating). It is a near-masterpiece IMHO, and I know I'm not the only person that feels this way about it judging by the ratings by other moviegoers. Bottom line is that it's best for everyone to keep an open mind and make up their own mind. I am looking forward to Alice In Wonderland, but I am not happy about the fact that my theater is only offering it in 3D. :csad:

By the way: Alice In Wonderland is at 58% overall and 57% Top Critics at the moment, but there are only 7 top critic reviews and 24 reviews overall so far. Movies like this are an acquired taste in many ways. One of my favorites is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It has a dreadful rating at Rotten Tomatoes but it's a hell of a trip. That's kind of what I expect from Alice In Wonderland.

:wow:

I can't believe top critics rated The Prestige that low.
 
Meh... The reviews arent phasing me at all. As a Tim Burton fan, I think the movie is made for me.

Tim Burton/Johnny Depp have become so big and so successful, that at some point Hollywood are gonna knock them waaaaaaaay back down... I can feel it starting already.

But like I said... Meh! As an individual im very happy with what I have seen so far.
 
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