Tim Story MySpace Blog updated

[Kirk Langstrom]

Really? They didn't control Ioan spilling the beans that Galactus won't be showing up in phsyical form.

I had a thought. Why don't we come up with the 10 best questions for Tim Story. The 10 best questions we can all agree on that don't contain spoilers (because the questions would be wasted) and I'll submit them to Tim until he responds? Anyone in on it???

1) Since we have conflicting reports by Rothman and Ioan in regards to an appearance by Galactus, can Tim please set the record straight once and for all? (I dont consider that a spoiler...we know Doom and Surfer are appearing for sure...why not Galactus?)

 

[Malus]

^ I meant here's my suggested question.
Oh, and I'd also like to know how the catering was.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I figured something like this would be good:

Tim while I and plenty of others enjoyed the first film, and even though the first film did very well at the box office...there was fan criticism over the presentation of Dr. Doom. You said in the past that this time we're going to see the FULL Doom (I forget the exact words you used). My question is: Now that filming has wrapped do you think you addressed the issues fans had with Doom? Was the criticism effective or a factor in how you handled the sequel and the characters?

 

[Carp Man]

I want to know what the editing idiots down at Fox are going to do to this movie. The editing hatchet job they did last film, po'd me no end. Especially after I saw what was cut. I really do not know if the director has any input or not, but I would assume someone would have input. If not the director, then who ? Avi ? I want that question answered. When they edit a film, who connected with the film has input ?

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ You want to try to reassemble your thoughts there Carpy? Perhaps in a fashion submitable if this pans out. LOL

 

[Kelly]

I want to know what the editing idiots down at Fox are going to do to this movie. The editing hatchet job they did last film, po'd me no end. Especially after I saw what was cut. I really do not know if the director has any input or not, but I would assume someone would have input. If not the director, then who ? Avi ? I want that question answered. When they edit a film, who connected with the film has input ?

That changes from movie to movie....sometimes the writer of the score has alot of input....sometimes the director....but most falls on the editor in charge.....as far as the first movie....Hoy.

 

[Iron Maiden]

Most big time directors get the final cut put in their contracts... you wouldn't see anyone touching a Spielberg or a Scorsese film without their OK. The only first hand knowledge I have is from Ryan Murphy, who tells us a little insider stuff about Nip/Tuck.. He does a lot of work in the editing room along side the film editor both when he directs an episode and even in those that he doesn't because he is also the "show runner", or exec producer.

 

[Malus]

I want to know what the editing idiots down at Fox are going to do to this movie. The editing hatchet job they did last film, po'd me no end. Especially after I saw what was cut. I really do not know if the director has any input or not, but I would assume someone would have input. If not the director, then who ? Avi ? I want that question answered. When they edit a film, who connected with the film has input ?

Well Avi Arad is gone FINALLY, so if anyone from Marvel is involved, I don't know who that would be anymore...

 

[Agent 194]

I didn't know Avi was gone. I thought he was just in another capacity. I've understood that he has just as much say as far as movies go for Marvel. Have I been misinformed?

 

[highguard]

Well Avi Arad is gone FINALLY, so if anyone from Marvel is involved, I don't know who that would be anymore...

I think that Avi has been good for the Marvel Malus. Basicaly none of these movies would have happened without his involvment. Before Avi there was Stan Lee trying to get movies made in Hollywood and seriously he was not a deal maker.

unfortunately Avi had to make some weak deals in the early days because Marvel was not a player. They were basically at the mercy of individual studios to do their movies. Due to the dross that was the early movies, Corman's movie being a prime example I think Avi was desperate to get some deals done. He admitted more or less that he did not get a good one with Fox.

So fox holds all the cards and the power in this relationship.

That explains what is going on with the editing and characters in these movies. Marvel in control would we think be more faithful to source (Queseda and Marvel today worries me though). With Fox in control Marvel has even less input.

To that end it may not be a good thing that Avi is out of the picture.

He definitley loves the characters. This is the guy who personally saved Marvel Comics.

having said that it appears that Tim still does not have the power he should. I keep hankering back to those budget cuts he mentioned when he first started working on the film. You get the impression he was chomping at the bits but was brought back down to reality by the suits who know "best".

I think Galactus was a casualty of this process. I also think it was driven by a desire to keep that expense and defer it to a possible SS film. To that end they must have decided that Galactus was the character that needed to suffer with the SS benefiting from Galactus absence.

Its a calculated gamble. The FF could have been a blockbuster in the vein of Spiderman but there just seems to be an underappreciation for its potential by Fox.

They could have knocked this one out of the park with an Ultimate Alliance version of Galactus. We all would have geeked out.

Well I guess it is what it is. The glass is half full as opposed to overflowing.

Guess Spiderman will be the ticket this summer and while I expect FF2 to be good, if they had been faithful to the extent of handling Galactus properly it could have been a classic.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Avi is the reason we're seeing all of these comic book films. It was his love and passion for the charactrs that saved Marvel. Anyone who doesn't appreciate what he has done is ignorant to the extreme. If you don't like his personality that's one thing but he literraly changed the genre for the better almost single handily. Avi is still producing the Marvel films and Feige is in charge of the Studio division now and since Feige took over Marvel's stock has soared.

 

[zer00]

I didn't know Avi was gone. I thought he was just in another capacity. I've understood that he has just as much say as far as movies go for Marvel. Have I been misinformed?

He's basically in the same role. Just none of the paper work

 

[AssMan]

Well Avi Arad is gone FINALLY, so if anyone from Marvel is involved, I don't know who that would be anymore...

When did Avi Arad leave Marvel ?

 

[thegameq]

I think that Avi has been good for the Marvel Malus. Basicaly none of these movies would have happened without his involvment. Before Avi there was Stan Lee trying to get movies made in Hollywood and seriously he was not a deal maker.

unfortunately Avi had to make some weak deals in the early days because Marvel was not a player. They were basically at the mercy of individual studios to do their movies. Due to the dross that was the early movies, Corman's movie being a prime example I think Avi was desperate to get some deals done. He admitted more or less that he did not get a good one with Fox.

So fox holds all the cards and the power in this relationship.

That explains what is going on with the editing and characters in these movies. Marvel in control would we think be more faithful to source (Queseda and Marvel today worries me though). With Fox in control Marvel has even less input.

To that end it may not be a good thing that Avi is out of the picture.

He definitley loves the characters. This is the guy who personally saved Marvel Comics.

having said that it appears that Tim still does not have the power he should. I keep hankering back to those budget cuts he mentioned when he first started working on the film. You get the impression he was chomping at the bits but was brought back down to reality by the suits who know "best".

I think Galactus was a casualty of this process. I also think it was driven by a desire to keep that expense and defer it to a possible SS film. To that end they must have decided that Galactus was the character that needed to suffer with the SS benefiting from Galactus absence.

Its a calculated gamble. The FF could have been a blockbuster in the vein of Spiderman but there just seems to be an underappreciation for its potential by Fox.

They could have knocked this one out of the park with an Ultimate Alliance version of Galactus. We all would have geeked out.

Well I guess it is what it is. The glass is half full as opposed to overflowing.

Guess Spiderman will be the ticket this summer and while I expect FF2 to be good, if they had been faithful to the extent of handling Galactus properly it could have been a classic.

Ditto; Fox is only willing to go so far with these types of films, the X-films proved that.

 

[Carp Man]

Avi is the reason we're seeing all of these comic book films. It was his love and passion for the charactrs that saved Marvel. Anyone who doesn't appreciate what he has done is ignorant to the extreme. If you don't like his personality that's one thing but he literraly changed the genre for the better almost single handily. Avi is still producing the Marvel films and Feige is in charge of the Studio division now and since Feige took over Marvel's stock has soared.

Well said. Without Avi, we would not have any of the Marvel films we have all enjoyed. Spider-Man, X-Men, FF, Ghost Rider. And the future is bright. You may not like the mans ways, but give the devil his due. He has pulled Marvel from the nowhere, into the somewhere.

 

[Agent 194]

Wait a minute. What's been decided on Galactus? I didn't know anything definitive had been released.

I too believe, and although I haven't loved everything that's come out, that Avi deserves a bit more credit than some have given.

 

[Advanced Dark]

When did Avi Arad leave Marvel ?

He left in late 06 to focus on Avi Arad productions. He's still an exec producer on all the big Marvel films so he's not really gone. But he's the king of the industry. Honestly without him we would not have seen Hellboy, 300, Sin City, Batman Begins, etc...Nothing would have turned out the same as it is today.

 

[Retroman]

^ I don't care to have anything major spoiled either, but I wish Story had been more reliable with his updates. I think we were all expecting he'd post something at least every couple of weeks. Not every few months.
Plus how many times did the studio apparently screw around with his blog? The least he could have done in those instances was post again and say "Oops, I've been told not to give some stuff away so you'll all be more surprised."
Instead, he just kinda stopped after the "Who should be the Surfer's voice" entry.

Me too but it's hard to find a balance with stuff like this without giving too much away.

 

[Hellmistress]

You must remember that Tim Story is not a big time director in the industry with a lot of clout. He is paid by the studios to do a job, and no doubt he has done so to the best of his ability, given the circumstances, which means he does the best he can with the studio leaning very heavily on his shoulder.

The classic example is the hoo-hah over SS's voice. Tim loved Doug's voice for the character, as did the cast and crew, but ultimately that don't amount to a hill o' beans, because what the studio decides is what will happen. Period. Tim may have a wee bit of influence, but he hasn't any real clout. So I would take all of these conflicting reports about Galactus with a pinch of salt and just wait and see, because Fox isn't going to tell you unless it's in their financial interest - they still don't acknowledge officially that Doug is playing the Surfer, for goodness sake.

I would severely doubt that the film you will see is entirely Tim's vision by any means. What you will see is Fox's vision of how FF:RotSS should be. So, if you trust Fox to do a good job, you should be happy enough with the film.

HM

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ The producer already said the same thing though that Galactus will appear as a presence.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Most big time directors get the final cut put in their contracts... you wouldn't see anyone touching a Spielberg or a Scorsese film without their OK. The only first hand knowledge I have is from Ryan Murphy, who tells us a little insider stuff about Nip/Tuck.. He does a lot of work in the editing room along side the film editor both when he directs an episode and even in those that he doesn't because he is also the "show runner", or exec producer.

All the directors get into the editing room, after a rough cut is made, to trim and adjust the editing. And the editing goes on for weeks with lots of input from the producer, very rarely from the music composer. And they get back in the editing room after the test screening.
And Martin Scorsese had to fight in the editing room of "Gangs of New York" with Harvey Weinstein, because in that case he didn't have a "final cut" clause in his contract.

 

[Advanced Dark]

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Thursday, March 01, 2007

Wow - the clock is ticking...

Hey guys,

There's a lot going on. I've been seeing the billboards going up and hopefully you have all seen the TV spot. I thought it turned out well. I've been checking the web to see what people think. Always good to check in. There are still those that can't give us a break but whadayagonnado?! Haters! Wow.

There continues to be much speculation about Galactus. Major speculation. We haven't finished the design of him/it so be careful about what you read and believe. Trust me...no one knows. One things for sure, you can expect to see him/it. It will be pretty powerful. I'm having a lot of fun with the concept and believe me - MOST will be satisfied.

Doom? Oh he's coming. Just wait. Classic look! And we definitely touch on his roots in the film. We're working long hours to make it right.

Sorry I've been so quiet! Talk to you soon.

new update

 

[Malus]

Long as there is a "Him" in "It," Tim.

If Galactus, at his/its core, is not a sentient, single being you will have blown it.

You can have all the purple clouds and advance drones you want; that stuff will look cool, I'm sure.
I'm just saying the "Voyager 6" at the heart of your "V'ger" better be a God-like devourer of worlds.
Galactus better be Galactus.

Even if all we get is a 5-second glimpse and he never speaks a word.

Just honor the work of the men who created this story in the first place 40 years ago by steering "your" "concepts" and "designs" towards the SOURCE.

But -sounds good overall, especially the parts about Doom.
Major assurances have now been made about Doom ("Full Doom", "Classic look") so we better really see something there...


* V'ger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V'ger

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ As Tim says "nobody" who's talked about it online knows what's gonna be on the big screen. If it turns out to be a purple cloud and it comes off cool it'll probably still be an "AWESOME" film if done right but he would not have blown it. Well...yeah but only to the the diehard Galactus fans.

However...it wouldn't make any sense for Galactus not to be a sentinent being of some sort. You have to know they must have thought about the original Galactus appearance and how it would look on film before they came to whatever conclusion they came to. Who knows our comments online might lead the production to make a few changes to give a nod to the fans.

 

[Retroman]

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new update

Thanks for the update AD!
I'm a little more optimistic now about Galactus' appearance after reading this.Sounds like Ioan was really wrong after all and Tom Rothman was right (shocker).t:

They've got another 4 months to do additional shooting and CGI if so required plus looking at the crew list they have a pretty experienced group of artists and designers to create his look.Which is another positive.

Personally i'd prefer for them to stay true to the original Kirby design.If he looked like this for example i could live with it.