TMOS Review & Speculation Thread (Spoilers) - Part 2

[Herolee10]

At this rate it will be at 55% by tmr and 0% by friday.
WWZ will have a higher score no doubt and all because this film didn't meet it's standard.

Yeah, I really wouldn't be surprised though if this thing ended with a 20-30% RT tally at the end of its run.

 

[Anjow1060]

I think a lot of people here aren't getting the issue: It's not the story. The plot points are there.

It's the execution of them. A lot of it falls on the direction, cinematography and the editing.

Nolans backbone is there and makes it cohesive, but Goyer pads it out with gray fatty tissue that is boring. And Synder doesn't do much to save it.

- Jow

 

[dnno1]

I don't compare the two films. What I felt worked in one didn't work in another.

Sounds like you're just picking a fight. Goodbye

Well that's a cop out to me. Certainly you can compare the two since both were comic book films about super heroes, there was an alien invasion, and stuff got destroyed without regard for human life and safety. After reading both of your reviews, it is pretty clear that you are trying to tell me that DC films just can't do any thing that a Marvel film does, which is just a prejudice to me and shows no impartiality in your film reviewing skills. Like I said before, you have very little credibility in my book when it comes to that.

 

[bizarroelaine]

Spoiler

Yes, it is.

Spoiler

do perry and superman have a scene together, or is this the first time they meet - as clark?

 

[Autonet]

Well that's a cop out to me. Certainly you can compare the two since both were comic book films about super heroes, there was an alien invasion, and stuff got destroyed without regard for human life and safety. After reading both of your reviews, it is pretty clear that you are trying to tell me that DC films just can't do any thing that a Marvel film does, which is just a prejudice to me and shows no impartiality in your film reviewing skills. Like I said before, you have very little credibility in my book when it comes to that.

Have you seen Man of Steel? Or are you just defending the movie and bashing Avengers based on nothing?

 

[ironman_rick]

Just caught the 1st 75 mins of the movie (I sneaked out during lunch .... So I am rushing back to office now). Based on the 75 mins... I just can't see where all the bad reviews are coming from. This movie is simply awesome for me.

Typing from my iPhone so I can't put the spoiler tags. But here it goes :

1)that start of the movie felt like Star Wars.
2)super mans real mum is 1 hot milf.
3)I am not sure where the "this movie is too serious" come from. There were huge laughters in the theatre when the bashed up truck was shown - after the guy threw a cup at kal.
4)lois lane was pretty much everywhere in the earth scenes (I read reviews that there was too little LL. she even displays awesome journalist skills to track down Clarke.
5)Kevin Costner's scenes were the most emotional i the whole movie ( I left during the tornado scene).
6)kal el learning to fly was simply awesome.
7)the special effects in the 1st 75 mins were awesome.


To summarise, I just can't believe why this movie is getting such lukewarm reviews. I can't wait for my work to finish so that I can catch the whole movie.

My advice..... Forget all the reviews and watch it for yourself. You will enjoy this movie (or at least the 1st 75 mins).

 

[Autonet]

A review for half the movie. Got it.

 

[dnno1]

Have you seen Man of Steel? Or are you just defending the movie and bashing Avengers based on nothing?

Have you seen it? I don't think I have to see a film to tell that there is a bias between reviews. There are similarities between "Avengers" and "Man of Steel". This guy says that Superman willfully knocking down skyscrapers and engaging in wanton destruction has no depth (as if that didn't happen in Marvel's "Avengers"). I think a lot of folks have to remember that after the last 8 years or more of watching Superman on the small screen, they are used to seeing him do this when he fights a being of equal power:

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In the movie, "Man of Steel", he is fighting a small army of Kryptonians. If there is gong to be any realism in this film, I think as a writer or a director you've got to satisfy the expectation that when Superman fights these types of "big bads" he is going to bring down buildings else you shortchange the moviegoer who is expecting that to happen. You don't need to see the film to know that, and in fact, that is what a lot of folks requested since the demise of "Superman Returns" (they didn't want to see him lifting a gigantic rock into space). To come back and criticize that (especially when Marvel did something similar and made a mint doing so) is pretty short sided and not really thinking about the application of realism here.

 

[TheRegSays]

Spoiler

Something hit me during the last part of the movie. When the general was asking Superman about what how he could convince the president to trust him. The feeling I got from that was that the president did not trust Superman. What if... Lex is already president? I know this is just speculation on my part. Maybe wishful thinking. President Lex is something we've never seen in a movie before and it could be a good dynamic for Clark/Supes, as he is just trying to trust the people, and he doesn't realize that it's actually the president he cannot trust.

 

[Anita18]

Have you seen it? I don't think I have to see a film to tell that there is a bias between reviews. There are similarities between "Avengers" and "Man of Steel". This guy says that Superman willfully knocking down skyscrapers and engaging in wanton destruction has no depth (as if that didn't happen in Marvel's "Avengers"). I think a lot of folks have to remember that after the last 8 years or more of watching Superman on the small screen, they are used to seeing him do this when he fights a being of equal power:

[YT]6BJ1-trrgqc[/YT]

In the movie, "Man of Steel", he is fighting a small army of Kryptonians. If there is gong to be any realism in this film, I think as a writer or a director you've got to satisfy the expectation that when Superman fights these types of "big bads" he is going to bring down buildings else you shortchange the moviegoer who is expecting that to happen. You don't need to see the film to know that, and in fact, that is what a lot of folks requested since the demise of "Superman Returns" (they didn't want to see him lifting a gigantic rock into space). To come back and criticize that (especially when Marvel did something similar and made a mint doing so) is pretty short sided and not really thinking about the application of realism here.

Actually yes, if you've been here for the past few days, you'd know that Autonet has seen it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think a lot of people here aren't getting the issue: It's not the story. The plot points are there.

It's the execution of them. A lot of it falls on the direction, cinematography and the editing.

Nolans backbone is there and makes it cohesive, but Goyer pads it out with gray fatty tissue that is boring. And Synder doesn't do much to save it.

- Jow

That was the fear I had with Goyer and Snyder to begin with. But the footage, I don't know. Will finally know today.

 

[WormyT]

That was the fear I had with Goyer and Snyder to begin with. But the footage, I don't know. Will finally know today.

Thats why most people are disappointed. It was close to greatness but it had some very very sloppy pacing and editing issues. That hurt the film more than some of the hammy dialogue and "some" bad Beowulf CG.

 

[Supermanila]

Thats why most people are disappointed. It was close to greatness but it had some very very sloppy pacing and editing issues. That hurt the film more than some of the hammy dialogue and bad Beowulf CG.

True. I feel that if they were going for the 2hr 20min running time, they could've cut 5-10 mins of the action in the end, and added 5-10 mins more of story/action scenes in the middle. The story wasn't the problem really, it was the storytelling itself that's the problem.

 

[Herolee10]

Too bad Snyder couldn't get both Goyer and Jonathan Nolan working on the script on an equal basis; it might have helped the pacing and dialogue issues that people say it's having.

Yeah, I think MOS is just really suffering from an bad case of people having had way too much expectations built for it, which is kind of ironic since isn't that the Marketing Team's job to begin with and we were criticizing them for not doing a great job a few months ago.lol


I honestly wonder if the film will survive the multiple viewings stage since SR had people praising it upon its initial release but after people saw the film more times,those high praises began to fade away. I wonder if MOS will suffer that very same fate.

 

[Markdavid90]

Some of the discussions going on here are really pointless, you can't convince someone to 'like' the film if they don't. It's like making someone eat your favorite food when they hate it. The only critic to matter is you.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Some of the discussions going on here are really pointless, you can't convince someone to 'like' the film if they don't. It's like making someone eat your favorite food when they hate it. The only critic to matter is you.

My cheesy nachos are great and you will love them!!!!

 

[Herolee10]

My cheesy nachos are great and you will love them!!!!

I know Amy would as well since she said that those are her personal kryptonite.lol

 

[mace1]

Alice in Wonderland - Rotten Tomatoes

Rating: 51% - 262 reviews
2.5/5

Audience
Audience like it 72%
Average rating 3.8/5

Domestic:$334,191,110
+ Foreign: $690,108,794

= Worldwide: $1,024,299,904

 

[johnrain]

If Superman is going up against multiple Kryptonians with the same powers, how can they not beat him? That is too far fetched if you ask me.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

If Superman is going up against multiple Kryptonians with the same powers, how can they not beat him? That is too far fetched if you ask me.

Superman is stronger because he's been exposed to the sun longer than the enemy kryptonians.

 

[cabjvitu]

I finally saw it yesterday, this movie has so many great things, and they took RISKS, wich I am still processing, tonight im going again, im not sure I loved those choices wich were STRONG but it is definitely worth multiple viewings if you love comics and this character, yes he is different, I liked how he felt novice and actually was, just dealing with new situations and solving them not always in a perfect way.
He needs to get closer to the guy we always loved in the sequel as he becomes more confident etc. Even though I understand the filmmakers choice at the end I feel that it was kinda rushed.
Anyways Metropolis was completely destroyed so next time we'll probably need a more psicological challenge for supes as we have already seen this huge fights.

 

[Stålmannen]

I have a question.

Spoiler

Is this from the destruction of Krypton?

And are Lara and Jor-El together in their final moments?

Thanks.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Alice in Wonderland - Rotten Tomatoes

Rating: 51% - 262 reviews
2.5/5

Audience
Audience like it 72%
Average rating 3.8/5

Domestic:$334,191,110
+ Foreign: $690,108,794

= Worldwide: $1,024,299,904

It's not really a good comparison.

Alice was the 2nd movie that used 3D after the Avatar crazyness,that's why it made so much money back then,people was still in awe of the 3D gimmick.

 

[TheBlueMcCoy82]

Wow, MOS has 60% at Rotten Tomatoes? That's even lower than Ang Lee's Hulk which is at 62% and I hated "Hulk".

 

[Reel]

I have a question.

Spoiler

Is this from the destruction of Krypton?

And are Lara and Jor-El together in their final moments?

Thanks.

Spoiler

Yes that is the destruction of Krypton.

No Jor-El died battling Zod so that Kal-El's ship could launch safely off Krypton. Krypton explodes a day or so later