TMOS Review & Speculation Thread (Spoilers) - Part 2

[JOE]

3 rotten reviews on RT already bringing it down to an 80...

 

[Ozymandias]

3 rotten reviews on RT already bringing it down to an 80...

It only takes 3 when there's 15 up lol. Give it time.

 

[Bran-El]

REVIEW FROM http://badassdigest.com/2013/06/10/man-of-steel-movie-review/ has me worried:

MAJOR SPOILER

Spoiler

The final moments of the Zod and Superman battle happen in Metropolis’ version of Grand Central Station. Zod, on the ropes, turns Superman’s love for humanity against him and tries to use his heat vision to fry a family of four. This is a big moment for both of them. Which is fine... if the preceding fifteen minutes had not been clearly a massacre of thousands upon thousands of people. There’s a certain point where the question of four more bodies on the pile becomes either irrelevant or the most relevant thing in the world, but the script doesn’t tackle it correctly. Superman makes no mention of the fact that so many have already died, and at the end of the movie nobody really seems to be worried about it (I’m reminded of the end of Star Trek Into Darkness where the devastation of San Francisco is utterly ignored). Many of Man of Steel’s speeches are questions about how humanity would react when the existence of an alien demigod was revealed to them. How about just dealing with how humanity would react when so many people are killed?

This is exactly what I feared. Oh well at least I can get used to it and overcome disappointment.

 

[psylockolussus]

3 rotten reviews on RT already bringing it down to an 80...

For me, its not a good sign. Ratings usually go lower as more reviews are counted.

 

[Manosman]

For me, its not a good sign. Ratings usually go lower as more reviews are counted.

This is not true.

 

[T"Challa]

From David Poland..yeesh

DavidPoland 8m
Man of Steel is an epic… piece of ****

I’m pretty sure I’m going back to Man of Steel mañana before I do a full review, but the script and direction likely won’t be getting better

Man of Steel has a core problem. It’s not entertaining. Big, loud, hyperactive, pretty at times… but not a single home run scene in the film

Last comment tonight on Man of Steel. It’s actually worse than Superman Returns. Not easy. But hey, Superman punches people a lot. Genius!!!

 

[Compi716]

Well guys, I just got back from the movie.









I thought it was GREAT! Seriously, I genuinely loved it. I don't think I'll write a full review, as Drew McWeeney kind of nailed it, but I'd be happy to answer any questions.

First thing, though, as it's one of my favorite series of moments in the film that isn't really being mentioned: [BLACKOUT]Clark's relationship with Pete Ross.[/BLACKOUT] It's handled so well, and it has a great arc to it. It was one of the many things that make's this film truly moving and quite beautiful.

 

[Agent Orange]

Yikes. Poland's review is scathing.

 

[Herolee10]

Well guys, I just got back from the movie.









I thought it was GREAT! Seriously, I genuinely loved it. I don't think I'll write a full review, as Drew McWeeney kind of nailed it, but I'd be happy to answer any questions.

First thing, though, as it's one of my favorite series of moments in the film that isn't really being mentioned: [BLACKOUT]Clark's relationship with Pete Ross.[/BLACKOUT] It's handled so well, and it has a great arc to it. It was one of the many things that make's this film truly moving and quite beautiful.

It's great to hear that you enjoyed it.

Curious though, is it true that...

Spoiler

the destruction of Metropolis is somewhat glossed over after Superman defeats Zod?

Also, does Black Zero turn into some kind of sentient like creature that superman has to dispose of?

 

[Ozymandias]

It's great to hear that you enjoyed it.

Curious though, is it true that...

Spoiler

the destruction of Metropolis is somewhat glossed over after Superman defeats Zod?

Also, does Black Zero turn into some kind of sentient like creature that superman has to dispose of?

Spoiler

It's glossed over almost completely. Nothing during or after the final battle mentions the devastation and the likely thousands that died.

 

[Herolee10]

Spoiler

It's glossed over almost completely. Nothing during or after the final battle mentions the devastation and the likely thousands that died.

Thanks

Spoiler

It's kind of ironic when I look at the situation. Some people complain on how the Avengers didn't really do well when it came to SHOWING the amount of devastation and despair that an Alien invasion should bring, but we at least got an montage showing the aftermath of it, whereas MOS seems to do the opposite.


I wonder if the sequel will focus on the aftermath of the destruction, especially if they use Lex, where he ends up being responsible for repairing most of the damage that Zod left behind.

 

[Bran-El]

Man that bums me out.

Another question. Just how much action are we talking about here? Next to the clip of Superman punching Zod, does it get much more tense than that?

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Well guys, I just got back from the movie.









I thought it was GREAT! Seriously, I genuinely loved it. I don't think I'll write a full review, as Drew McWeeney kind of nailed it, but I'd be happy to answer any questions.

First thing, though, as it's one of my favorite series of moments in the film that isn't really being mentioned: [BLACKOUT]Clark's relationship with Pete Ross.[/BLACKOUT] It's handled so well, and it has a great arc to it. It was one of the many things that make's this film truly moving and quite beautiful.

I actually thought that relationship would have been better if:

[BLACKOUT]Pete didn't blab about Clark to Lois, or it showed him having a really hard time revealing it.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Compi716]

It's great to hear that you enjoyed it.

Curious though, is it true that...

Spoiler

the destruction of Metropolis is somewhat glossed over after Superman defeats Zod?

Also, does Black Zero turn into some kind of sentient like creature that superman has to dispose of?

Answers:

Spoiler

1. I suppose, though never any more than traditionally in the comics or TAS. Yes, there's an enormous amount of damage, and yes, there isn't a focus on it by the end of the film. But honestly, I think they're saving that plot point for a certain Mr. Lex Luthor to bring to everybody's attention.

2. Not really. It's Kryptonian AI, much like Kelex and the other Kryptonian robots.

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Man that bums me out.

Another question. Just how much action are we talking about here? Next to the clip of Superman punching Zod, does it get much more tense than that?

heheheh.... uhhh... that's like... 2% of the action...

 

[Bran-El]

Does the action take over to the point that it's mindless? That's really what I'm getting at.

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Does the action take over to the point that it's mindless? That's really what I'm getting at.

Not mindless, it serves a purpose. It's just that Superman kinda' forgets there's living people in the city he's throwing Kryptonians around in.

 

[Herolee10]

IF the sequel is done right, it seems like they're going down a similar route with what they did with Batman in Nolan's trilogy. It's been pointed out on how Batman appeared an bit more reckless in his first outing than in his second film; hell he allowed Ra's to die but ended up saving Joker in the second film.

 

[Andreth]

Not mindless, it serves a purpose. It's just that Superman kinda' forgets there's living people in the city he's throwing Kryptonians around in.

I think that these are the little things that are making some critics give it just OK reviews.

While watching the more action oriented tv spots many people were OMG THAT LOOKS AMAZING, LOOK AT THE FIGHT! LOOK AT THAT PUNCH! but I couldn't help to think damn, I wonder how many people died there.

 

[tomoe]

Not mindless, it serves a purpose. It's just that Superman kinda' forgets there's living people in the city he's throwing Kryptonians around in.

That's pretty bad... was there any chance to lure them away like in Superman 2?

 

[gordonabishop]

But in superhero movies with mass destruction, isn't it generally assumed that nobody dies unless bodies are shown?

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

That's pretty bad... was there any chance to lure them away like in Superman 2?

IMHO, yes.

But...It's Superman's first outing.

 

[Visualiza]

But in superhero movies with mass destruction, isn't it generally assumed that nobody dies unless bodies are shown?

Since when? If it's a populated urban environment, the only logical assumption would most certainly be the opposite.

 

[Project862006]

I think that these are the little things that are making some critics give it just OK reviews.

While watching the more action oriented tv spots many people were OMG THAT LOOKS AMAZING, LOOK AT THE FIGHT! LOOK AT THAT PUNCH! but I couldn't help to think damn, I wonder how many people died there.

honestly dont think any of the audience is gonna care i know i dont

man that scene was epic but why did'nt he rescue those people first before he threw zod through sears

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Since when? If it's a populated urban environment, the only logical assumption would most certainly be the opposite.

Nolan's Batman enjoyed blowing up and running over automobiles. I assume he had infrared scanners or some other tech to detect life in the vicinity, whereas Superman has x-ray vision.