TM's salary vs. screentime

[The_Dark_Knight]

And again, I bet that is NOT his body in the costume ripping scene.

 

[Ebil Gig]

Haha, that's an awesome gif!

 

[TheVileOne]

OK . . . so what's the point?

What does it matter?

 

[Visionary]

The point is...they've found something else to b:tch about.

 

[not_a_victim]

Listen, guys, I am NOT complaining. Not at all. I just thought that Maguire may go down in the record books as having the highest salary to screen time ratio of any actor.
My comments about his body were just being used to bolster the fact that maguire is not on the screen all that much.
I ain't hatin' Maguire for gettin' all the money he can get. More power to him.

Edit: and yes, I am VERY willing to bet that is not Maguire's body in the costume ripping scene, ESPECIALLY the shot from the back.

 

[Mr Jide]

So what you're saying here is that launching a hate campaign increased your knowledge of Tobey Maguire's Spider-man earnings?



Wow. Your internet education program has done wonderous things for you it seems. Where else can one learn so efficiently to take such great pride in starting hate campaigns?

Bachelor of B.S. Indeed.

*shakes head*

Look moron, you cant even read. How about learning how to do so before you start posting a load of sh--. There were things I hated surrounding Maguire and the movies and his salary was part of the many things I didn't like. Clown.

 

[Cmill216]

Look moron, you cant even read. How about learning how to do so before you start posting a load of sh--. There were things I hated surrounding Maguire and the movies and his salary was part of the many things I didn't like. Clown.

7000, why can't you debate a subject without resulting to name calling? Be the better man, and grow the hell up, now. Come on.

 

[Sean Adisano]

sam said somewhere i think in a wizard issue he said that tobey did alot of stunts in this movie so it is defenitley more than 20 minutes.

he had to do alot more stunts due to Peter fighting without his costume alot, so they need tobey for that.

 

[ultimatefan]

He´ll definitely have more screentime, given that he does a huge action scene in the movie without his costume, so Maguire will have to do more of his own stunts than in any of the other two. But if any actors tell you they do all their own stunts, that´s a pile of crap, even if they´re game for it the insurance companies won´t let them do something REALLY dangerous.

 

[Sean Adisano]

He´ll definitely have more screentime, given that he does a huge action scene in the movie without his costume, so Maguire will have to do more of his own stunts than in any of the other two. But if any actors tell you they do all their own stunts, that´s a pile of crap, even if they´re game for it the insurance companies won´t let them do something REALLY dangerous.

unless your jackie chan

 

[Mr Jide]

7000, why can't you debate a subject without resulting to name calling? Be the better man, and grow the hell up, now. Come on.

Because it just so happens that the people I end up talking to who respond by making stupid comments are indeed just that stupid.

 

[Mr Jide]

he had to do alot more stunts due to Peter fighting without his costume alot, so they need tobey for that.

The stunts he did in sm2 in and out of costume were minimal overall and it makes one wonder what the hell he actually did in sm1 besides make weird, teary-eyed faces. But, it loks like he stepped up his stunt-flex for sm3 though.

 

[Sean Adisano]

The stunts he did in sm2 in and out of costume were minimal overall and it makes one wonder what the hell he actually did in sm1 besides make weird, teary-eyed faces. But, it loks like he stepped up his stunt-flex for sm3 though.

well i think it was alot of him in spidey 1, but his back was jacked up in 2 and couldn't do much. but he had to stepped it up in spidey 3 due to fighting without his costume alot, and even in the magazine, premeire, they said they had him do alot more than he did in spidey 2, alot more! they just watched his back and made sure it wasn't pushed past its limit.

 

[Cmill216]

Because it just so happens that the people I end up talking to who respond by making stupid comments are indeed just that stupid.

Well, if they are indeed "that stupid" then calling them a moron is like spitting on a pile of vomit; it isn't necessary.

He attempted to insult your intelligence in his post, so you simply come back and call him a moron and a clown, therefore proving his point?

There are other ways to argue besides resulting to classless name calling every time someone attacks you (which I've noticed you do way too often). It'd do you some good to locate and adopt these strategies.

 

[Mr Jide]

Well, if they are indeed "that stupid" then calling them a moron is like spitting on a pile of vomit; it isn't necessary.

He attempted to insult your intelligence in his post, so you simply come back and call him a moron and a clown, therefore proving his point?

There are other ways to argue besides resulting to classless name calling every time someone attacks you (which I've noticed you do way too often). It'd do you some good to locate and adopt these strategies.

Yeah your probably right but, I just choose not to. How I flex is how I do.

 

[Mr Jide]

well i think it was alot of him in spidey 1, but his back was jacked up in 2 and couldn't do much. but he had to stepped it up in spidey 3 due to fighting without his costume alot, and even in the magazine, premeire, they said they had him do alot more than he did in spidey 2, alot more! they just watched his back and made sure it wasn't pushed past its limit.

See, thats what you think but what I and other people know is that Maguire was hardly in costume. It was either CG or stuntmen for the most part. Why is it T-Magites are so hung up on the desire that he does all or most of his own stunts? Be honest with yourselves or if you dont know, go ask somebody.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

he had to do alot more stunts due to Peter fighting without his costume alot, so they need tobey for that.

yeah, i bet tobey enjoyed it to because he loves doing his own stunts.

 

[not_a_victim]

yeah, i bet tobey enjoyed it to because he loves doing his own stunts.

No, Maguire has publicly stated he didn't like getting into shape for the role, didn't like doing stunts, etc.
He may have tried doing the stunts, and wearing the costume in SMI, but then he came to realize he didn't like it. The back pain drama right before SMII was probably a way of getting out of doing more stunts and getting into such good shape as he did in SMI.
And BTW, being hooked up to do wire work and being pulled 10 feet of the ground is not a "stunt". An actor may describe that as a "stunt" in order to say; "I do a lot/all of my own stunts.", because it sounds so good, and gets people in the theaters, but truly, most of that stuff is not a "stunt".

 

[InsomniacFreak]

Look moron, you cant even read. How about learning how to do so before you start posting a load of sh--. There were things I hated surrounding Maguire and the movies and his salary was part of the many things I didn't like. Clown.

Yeah, you're a Maguire hater. I get that about you. Everybody gets that about you.

As for posting a load of BS....I provide factual information about Maguire's salary from Forbes and you follow by providing your opinion that something said was "potent BS" and as justification you reference your own hate campaign. And you retort with how I can't read? Um....yeah.

Think what you want about my IQ. Rationalize your behavior how you will. I suppose you enjoy the process and take some kind of pleasure out of hating and trashing others or you wouldn't devote such energy to it.

To each his own way. I'm just glad that my way is in a totally opposite direction from yours.

 

[InsomniacFreak]

No, Maguire has publicly stated he didn't like getting into shape for the role, didn't like doing stunts, etc.

By chance are you taking comments he made in jest as serious?

I've never seen or heard a comment made in seriousness by Maguire to support what you're saying here. Where specifically did he say this?

 

[InsomniacFreak]

An actor may describe that as a "stunt" in order to say; "I do a lot/all of my own stunts.", because it sounds so good, and gets people in the theaters, but truly, most of that stuff is not a "stunt".

Tobey has never claimed to do all his own stunts. He said at comic con that any actor who claims they do all their own stunts is basically lying.


Also, I don't think people's decision to see a film is based on whether an actor does his own stunts or not.

 

[not_a_victim]

Tobey has never claimed to do all his own stunts. He said at comic con that any actor who claims they do all their own stunts is basically lying.


Also, I don't think people's decision to see a film is based on whether an actor does his own stunts or not.

When I said "an actor" I just meant any actor, not singling out Maguire.

 

[not_a_victim]

By chance are you taking comments he made in jest as serious?

I've never seen or heard a comment made in seriousness by Maguire to support what you're saying here. Where specifically did he say this?

I beleive it was on Letterman, Leno, or one of those late night shows. I remember he was doing publicity for "Seabiscuit", and he was comparing loosing weight for Seabiscuit, to getting into shape for SMI or SMII, not sure which.
He He compared the two roles and the prep work, and said he did not like being in the gym (the weight training)for SM.

 

[InsomniacFreak]

I beleive it was on Letterman, Leno, or one of those late night shows. I remember he was doing publicity for "Seabiscuit", and he was comparing loosing weight for Seabiscuit, to getting into shape for SMI or SMII, not sure which.
He He compared the two roles and the prep work, and said he did not like being in the gym (the weight training)for SM.

Yeah, I've read him comment about not caring for the workout regimen before but I've never read or heard him say he didn't like doing the stunts. He did describe on Leno in 2000 a scene where he was on a wire extended out over the edge of a building and being somewhat trepidatious about it. But that was mainly told goodnaturedly and not as a indication that he didn't like doing the stunts.

Regardless of whether he enjoys working out or not, I do disagree with your earlier comment about Tobey's back drama being staged to get out of stunts and workouts for the sequels. To me that borders on questioning his work ethic. He's a professional and highly regarded by directors as a work-horse and preps immensely for every role he plays. Always willing to do whatever is asked for the sake of a role (as evidenced by SM1 and Seabiscuit). Tobey gets the script well in advance and for this third one even got to put his touches on it during the scripting stages. He would know the kind of prep expected of him for SM3 and I think he would do the needful. Knowing he has a back condition probably meant that Raimi expected more use of stuntmen from the start.

Not to harp on it but it just gets annoying hearing people constantly questioning Tobey's commitment to the character or to the franchise based on how much time in the suit he is spending or how bulked up he is. You haven't come right out and said it, but it's what I'm reading between the lines with most of your posts. How much Tobey works out or whether he enjoys it or not is irrelevant. The movie can be just as great with the use of stuntmen in the suit as it could with Tobey in it. Just my opinion.

 

[not_a_victim]

Yeah, I've read him comment about not caring for the workout regimen before but I've never read or heard him say he didn't like doing the stunts. He did describe on Leno in 2000 a scene where he was on a wire extended out over the edge of a building and being somewhat trepidatious about it. But that was mainly told goodnaturedly and not as a indication that he didn't like doing the stunts.

Regardless of whether he enjoys working out or not, I do disagree with your earlier comment about Tobey's back drama being staged to get out of stunts and workouts for the sequels. To me that borders on questioning his work ethic. He's a professional and highly regarded by directors as a work-horse and preps immensely for every role he plays. Always willing to do whatever is asked for the sake of a role (as evidenced by SM1 and Seabiscuit). Tobey gets the script well in advance and for this third one even got to put his touches on it during the scripting stages. He would know the kind of prep expected of him for SM3 and I think he would do the needful. Knowing he has a back condition probably meant that Raimi expected more use of stuntmen from the start.

Not to harp on it but it just gets annoying hearing people constantly questioning Tobey's commitment to the character or to the franchise based on how much time in the suit he is spending or how bulked up he is. You haven't come right out and said it, but it's what I'm reading between the lines with most of your posts. How much Tobey works out or whether he enjoys it or not is irrelevant. The movie can be just as great with the use of stuntmen in the suit as it could with Tobey in it. Just my opinion.

I know Maguire had real back problems, I just think it was played up somewhat. I have always thought that the scene where PP falls onto the car, grimaces and says; "My back!" was a little dig at him and his back problems.
You're right, I haven't said anything about how committed he is to the character, because that was never my point. I will, however, point out that Maguire himslef has stated that he had no interest in the comics or character befroe the first movie.
Everytime I have made a statement that has been challenged, I have backed it up, and other people corroborate my points.
This whole thread started with a quirky thought; Maguire may well get more money for each minute of screentime than any actor ever has. I thought the idea was kinda cool. All of my arguments against Maguire having extended screen time may seem like slams, but they're not. They are just commonly known ideas about the production of the movie(s).
I'm not trying to troll, but I will take this a step further...if I am so wrong, someone show me a behind-the-scenes picture of Maguire in the full costume. and I'm not taking about the little "half" costume used for chest-up shots of Maguire with no mask. Show me a pic from this production of maguire in full costume, sans mask or some other way of confirming its him.
Also, with the success of the first and second movies, Maguire may not have even needed to bargain about work time. The studio may have come to him with an offer of light shooting schedule, just to presweeten the deal.